This thread is exactly what I needed today now that the Gameseum thread is locked. Thank you deeproot.
This thread is exactly what I needed today now that the Gameseum thread is locked. Thank you deeproot.
Quoted from kermit24:Didn't Norman leave also? He left Heighway as a precursor to a shit show. Maybe his nose should be trusted.
Yeah I think he's gone too.
There has to be one of these 6 people or a previous employee that can give everyone the lowdown anonymously somehow.
Quoted from flynnibus:Hindsight... but man... A STABLE full of industry vets... given an extra 7 months.. on top of the extra years... is shown the light and put in place by a group of social media no-ones?
How can anyone take these clowns seriously? You goto the last minute of the eleventh hour, and this 'feedback' is enough to stop EVERYTHING? Hell, they didn't even cancel on time.
How do you invest years and hundreds of thousands of dollars... to be enlightened by a handful of podcasters who haven't even been around the block?
I don't even know how anyone can show their face again in the light of this kind of colossal f up. The dirt needs to come out.
To be fair, it's millions and millions of dollars!
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Zidware Claims...
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Eclectic Gamers Interview
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1/25/18:
From This Week in Pinball:
deeproot Pinball: New Home, New Hires, 5 Days of deeproot, EXCLUSIVE follow up interview:
http://thisweekinpinball.com/deeproot-pinball-new-home-new-hires-5-days-deeproot-exclusive-follow-interview/
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UPDATE: **EXCLUSIVE interview with deeproot Pinball:
http://thisweekinpinball.com/exclusive-interview-deeproot-next-misadventure-pinball-revolution/
Please do not copy and paste the whole interview in the thread as website views are my only way to track interest, and I want to see if spending this much time on one post is "worth it". Thanks.
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On today's This Week in Pinball (http://thisweekinpinball.com/twip-guardians-stream/), we tease the upcoming interview with deeproot which will be posted Thursday. Below is a preview of the interview:
deeproot Pinball has been quietly making progress on their path and plan to become a major pinball manufacturing company. They have been in licensing talks for several major pinball titles. They are currently looking to hire a Pinball Game Designer and a Game Writer (click here for the openings and descriptions including salary). They are hoping to have their manufacturing facility finalized in the next 2-3 weeks.
This Week in Pinball will be sharing an **EXCLUSIVE** interview with deeproot on Thursday. Some of the topics covered include:
Why they hired John Popadiuk
Updates on deeproot’s efforts to make Zidware customers/vendors whole
Information on their upcoming public announcement
Why deeproot Tech decided to pursue pinball as a new venture
What type of build quality to expect from deeproot (hint: using a car comparison, they want to build a Ferrari and sell it at KIA prices)
What is deeproot Pinball’s target market (hint: its you)
The possibility of mass producing Magic Girl, Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland, and Alice in Wonderland
deeproot is extremely confident that they will be a very successful pinball manufacturer. The interview will make some in the pinball community angry, some won’t believe anything deeproot says, and some will be skeptical but quietly hopeful/excited. Stay tuned!
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So maybe you guys need to chime in here? You were there. You saw what went wrong. What TF happened?
pin2d ???
Quoted from marlboroman:CHECK WEBSITE
Is this really a website?
Where is the pages for:
Technical data?
Warranty info??
Distribution and sales?
Lifestyle and swag??
What happened to the site that had some employee info and picture place holders that were never filled??
Quoted from Charliew65:Well if that was day 1 of deeproot, I can’t wait to see what day 2 brings us!!
Day 1 = today (9/21), beta flop.
Day 2 = Chapter 11.
Day 3 = Chapter 13.
Day 4 = Chapter 7.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:man people just don't want to give up on this
Well, I have to throw in the towel. I have been postive for deeproot for quite some time, but this... this is just... There isn't a word for it. Maybe the Germans can help me out here: is there a Schadenfreude-type-word for this situation?
I have now lost all faith.
I was half following this just because I like pinball, but I'm doing myself a favor and draining this thread, and consciously avoiding all updates that have anything with the word "deeproot" in it.
I'm all about championing the underdog, but at this point, I have a feeling they're getting a laugh at how long they can keep people talking about them whilst offering nothing.
I don't care if they make a game that makes Medieval Madness look a pile of poop, I'm out!
See you never.
Quoted from Tranquilize:Well, I have to throw in the towel. I have been postive for deeproot for quite some time, but this... this is just... There isn't a word for it. Maybe the Germans can help me out here: is there a Schadenfreude-type-word for this situation?
I have now lost all faith.
I'm sure the German Language has a long complex compound word that can handle this situation...
Quoted from CNKay:What happened to the site that had some employee info and picture place holders that were never filled??
You're thinking of deeproot studios, their Utah company, which has been let go
Erased, sorry about that. Didn't sound as goofy as intended.
Contrite Message from the Freeeek Kingdom.
Apparently, their 80's based pin was called "Walter Mondale". The younger podcasters didn't know who he was, and the older ones told Robert, "Dude..."
Quoted from kermit24:That is the astonishing part.
Well, this is another excuse on their end, isn't it? To now place their incompetence on the estimation of outsiders rather than themselves.
This is textbook abusive behavior by this guy. You know what they say, "Fool me 6 or 7 times....".
If this is about the right ramp can’t they just put a “come along” halfway up like the new water parks that have turned waterslides into roller coasters ?
We need to lock in and coin the term "Missing the Right ramp".
It can be used for all types of situations. If a company really sh^ts the bed on a launch, we can say "They really missed the right ramp on that one".
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^^ NeilMcRae T2 meme from a few posts ago. I don’t think I’ve ever laughed that much at a pinball thread.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:man people just don't want to give up on this
"new pinball speculation" - it is the planetary core that feeds the pinside planet.
Quoted from seenev:I bet everyone at Stern is getting a good laugh.
So, I haven't looked at anything but I just want to make sure I get the drift of what happened:
1). Deeproot says a few weeks ago: "hey wait look at us in a few weeks!"
2). they come on and say: "we shit the bed. again. you have to wait for another 6-12 months to see the reveal...and people quit or were fired"
Does that just about cover it?
If it does, let me save them some money: do not get everyone's attention to announce further delays and problems in the future, just issue a press release on your website.
Quoted from WizardsCastle:I'm all about championing the underdog, but at this point, .
I do not get the "underdog" narrative with this gang, at all.
They showed up out of nowhere, hired every pinball washup they could find off the street plus 500 other people, threw a ton of money around and threw around even more bullshit, talking very loud shit about the entire industry, and insulting countless people here.
That's not an underdog. It's an overdog. And with all their fancy pedigree and papers they haven't even learned how to fucking sit or stay yet. Probably not even housebroken yet.
Quoted from okgrak:I'm sure the German Language has a long complex compound word that can handle this situation
Well the emotions and thoughts are mixed. Some are stunned some are shocked some are amazed some are happy they predicted this delay some are frustrated some are angry some are thrilled most like me are curious what happened. It´s a stunner for all I guess.
The best word in German for this imo is "überfahren" direct translated as driven over the meaning is you did not see that coming it rolled you over and you were totally unprepared for that surprise.
Quoted from NeilMcRae:I feel like the music from the littlest hobo should be playing right now.
"maybe tomorrow . . . "
One different decision and this whole thing may have had a radically different outcome: Don't hire JPop.
Sure Robert is a blowhard, etc. but that might have been forgiven if they hadn't started with so much baggage, including bad PR, half-baked game concepts, a bunch of commitments from a decade ago. They are still trying to get a single, completely mediocre looking JPop game finished just to clear liabilities. That guy is complete poison, he just happens to use the best people around to do his art.
There is a long track-record of companies that claimed they would be bigger and better than Stern. Heighway, Dutch, now Deeproot. All of these stepped up, talked trash, then promptly missed the right ramp.
Quoted from kermit24:Didn't Nordman leave also?
WHO ARE YOU GOING TO TRUST ?
dennisnordman03 (resized).jpgQuoted from CrazyLevi:I do not get the "underdog" narrative with this gang, at all.
They showed up out of nowhere, hired every pinball washup they could find off the street plus 500 other people, threw a ton of money around and threw around even more bullshit, talking very loud shit about the entire industry, and insulting countless people here.
That's not an underdog. It's an overdog. And with all their fancy pedigree and papers they haven't even learned how to fucking sit or stay yet. Probably not even housebroken yet.
underdog, overdog.... Bro... What about good ol updog???
Their goal from the beginning was to continue what John Popadiuk started. I'd say this is a gleaming success!
Quoted from LargemouthAss:How do you go from having a playable game 9 months ago in Houston.... to this?
That’s the most confusing part to me too!
I played RAZA at the expo and it wasn’t bad, sure it wasn’t ready to ship, but the game was playable and fun enough. I understand the difference between prototype and production but how do you have two prototypes ready to be flipped by an entire expo to nine months later not even a single game you’re willing to show someone playing on. If someone played one ball, being filmed on a cell phone at deeproot it would have been a million times better than just nothing.
You know... I think I'm actually really looking forward to cleaning my pins and hearing what Kaneda has to say on the situation tonight.
Deeproot gave a großer Schacht to the pinball community today, and they spent the afternoon brutally deeprooting her.
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Quoted from LargemouthAss:How do you go from having a playable game 9 months ago in Houston.... to this?
How do you plan your company launch... get an extra 7 months... wait till the night before and then bail at the 11th hour?
It means your story is @$%# and even your hand picked friends couldn't buy into it.
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