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deeproot Pinball thread


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#9751 4 months ago

Maybe an 80’s pop culture theme pin. With music, movies, fads, catch phrase from the 80’s.

#9752 4 months ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

That's what K said, so...
He also said "it's not Gremlins" (wich in my opinion didn't escape the 80's as well) so, I wouldn't trust in his assessment.

Yeah whether or not something "escaped the 80's" is pretty important. Box-office would say make a Rain Man pinball before Big Trouble but we all know it would be a sales dud (as would ET)

Then again, deepRoot seems to run on emotion not logic, so maybe we'll finally get that 3 Men and a Baby pin we've all been waiting for.

#9753 4 months ago

Somebody posted this last year with what appeared to be a Deeproot marketing ad for it to be revealed at TPF. The person who posted was also promptly asked to remove.

I’m 1000% in if this is the theme!

#9754 4 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Somebody posted this last year with what appeared to be a Deeproot marketing ad for it to be revealed at TPF. The person who posted was also promptly asked to remove.
I’m 1000% in if this is the theme!

Starting to thing more and more, that this is the 80s theme DR has. And..I'm quite alright with that, and will be buying it.

#9755 4 months ago
Quoted from Capn12:

Starting to thing more and more, that this is the 80s theme DR has. And..I'm quite alright with that, and will be buying it.

I’ll give it the edge over BTTF since it’s a fresh theme to the pinball world and that would be a plus for DR.

6/7/2020 was also the 35th anniversary of Goonies not that this is usually significant in pinball but who knows, timing would be good.

#9756 4 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

I’ll give it the edge over BTTF since it’s a fresh theme to the pinball world and that would be a plus for DR.

Yeah, if anyone remakes BTTF (and I’m not sure anyone will), it would be Kapow/Stern, IMO. Joe would be the only one to wrangle that license.

#9757 4 months ago
Quoted from Capn12:

Yeah, if anyone remakes BTTF (and I’m not sure anyone will), it would be Kapow/Stern, IMO. Joe would be the only one to wrangle that license.

Why would it be a difficult license to get? There's been a ton of BTTF video games over the years, plus the original Data East game as well as a more recent Zen pinball version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Back_to_the_Future_video_games

#9758 4 months ago

Wow, I completely forgot this one. - I remember looking in the newspaper what was running in the Cinema, and Rain Main was in theather for far over a year.

#9759 4 months ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

Money Pit, that’s the DR investors theme...

Congratz! You explained the joke.

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#9760 4 months ago
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#9761 4 months ago

Snake Plissken for the win. Escape From New York.

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#9762 4 months ago
Quoted from Wildbill327:

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so long as it has this clip in it

#9763 4 months ago
Quoted from GreenMachine19:

Maybe an 80’s pop culture theme pin. With music, movies, fads, catch phrase from the 80’s.

Be pretty cool to do this with a connect to Spotify or some other service to stream random 80s music.

The issue I always have with music pins is I get sick of the same songs over and over.. would fix that.

#9764 4 months ago
Quoted from Elvishasleft:

Be pretty cool to do this with a connect to Spotify or some other service to stream random 80s music.
The issue I always have with music pins is I get sick of the same songs over and over.. would fix that.

This could turn into a nightmare a few years down the road when contracts expire/companies go out of business/whatever, but man that'd be amazing... Never even considered an internet-connected game streaming a variety of music. Imagine if your pin just started playing Mariah Carey christmas music on December 1st

#9766 4 months ago

That'd be a juggernaut, but with 2 games allready available I dunno...

A new Terminator for me just has to be a Steve Ritchie game.

#9767 4 months ago

Culture Club Pinball. I'll Tumble 4 Ya Multiball. Karma Chameleon edition.

#9768 4 months ago

Btw. I'd guess Robert is "happy" watching this. - Giving Kaneda something to tease/ brag about and all of a sudden the dumpster fire turns into a wild dream speculation thread...

...well, IF he gave K that info. If not he may be pissed, because if they only reveal RAZA, it would hurt it's sales.

#9769 4 months ago

I'm just hoping these themes (whatever they end up releasing) do not all turn in to some Comic Book version of all of these movies...

#9770 4 months ago

Since DR is doing original themes I think they should hire this artist. Look at the freaking imagination! Holy cow.
https://gfycat.com/wastefulethicalhornedtoad

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#9771 4 months ago
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#9772 4 months ago

What if it is just another announcement about an announcement again? I am hoping for finished games that are ready to ship... I highly doubt it.

I think you will be starting another countdown. I think Stern, JJP and CGC will all announce more games before DR ship anything. Maybe you can count your countdowns!

#9773 4 months ago
Quoted from pinballaddicted:

Maybe you can count your countdowns!

Will do: 3!

Edit:
Maybe I should explain.
Of course I do this partially because I'm enthusiastic, but more because I wanted to disrupt/ irritate the neverending and circling shithole discussion; wich it did.
I laugh my butt of, when people are agressively attacking me for posting that countdown and not adding relevant information, while these are the same people who're naysaying about the same pasttime stuff over and over again.
The countdown is the only actual/ relevant information we have, the rest ist purely speculative.
Whatever you think of this, hopefully in 3 days it is over!

#9774 4 months ago
Quoted from CLEllison:

Since DR is doing original themes I think they should hire this artist. Look at the freaking imagination! Holy cow.
https://gfycat.com/wastefulethicalhornedtoad

Several of the rumored titles aren’t original themes.

#9775 4 months ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

Will do: 3!
Edit:
Maybe I should explain.
Of course I do this partially because I'm enthusiastic, but more because I wanted to disrupt/ irritate the neverending and circling shithole discussion; wich it did.
I laugh my butt of, when people are agressively attacking me for posting that countdown and not adding relevant information, while these are the same people who're naysaying about the same pasttime stuff over and over again.
The countdown is the only actual/ relevant information we have, the rest ist purely speculative.
Whatever you think of this, hopefully in 3 days it is over!

I like it! Your coundown have been more enjoyable than anything we have got from Deeproot.

Unfortunatley I do not think we will see much from Deeproot in 3 days. Maybe a game or a picture of a game.

#9776 4 months ago

Impress me with product. You know, a pinball machine ready for sale; already built.

Otherwise my funds stay far away. Been burned over and over trying to support the new guys.

#9777 4 months ago
Quoted from pinballaddicted:

I like it! Your coundown have been more enjoyable than anything we have got from Deeproot.
Unfortunatley I do not think we will see much from Deeproot in 3 days. Maybe a game or a picture of a game.

I don‘t think so.

They have to generate income so they have to show off at least one game top to bottom.

But we‘ll see if they still had enough money to preproduce games or if they... need the orders to be able to order parts and start production.

I hope it‘s the first and they really can deliver games within 2 weeks.
If it‘s the latter that‘s understandable as well; but I’m not sure enough people still have the trust (in general).

#9778 4 months ago

Folks...pinball is easy.

I can assure you, all of your wildest pinball fantasies are about to come true.

#9779 4 months ago

Anyone for a Das Boot pinball machine? The ball is submerged below the playfield and each game takes 4 hours.

#9780 4 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Folks...pinball is easy.
I can assure you, all of your wildest pinball fantasies are about to come true.

HA! I see what you did there!

#9781 4 months ago
Quoted from okgrak:

Anyone for a Das Boot pinball machine? The ball is submerged below the playfield and each game takes 4 hours.

I‘m obviously biased with that one!

#9782 4 months ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

I‘m obviously biased with that one!

I don’t mean the beer drinking vessel...

#9783 4 months ago
Quoted from okgrak:

I don’t mean the beer drinking vessel...

Uh... no, that‘s... ah, forget it! XD

#9784 4 months ago

Hoping that DP comes out swinging with lower pricing than everyone else. This would impress the market instantly and set a new precedence. People are already talking about JJP pricing going up even more. Don’t know how they will sell many machines at even their current high pricing. The used market factors JJP’s high pricing in and is one of the reasons JJP games resale prices are so poor (POTC is the only exception, because of very limited run. Start making them again and watch how fast used POTC games drop in value). DP’s slogan of a pinball in every home, indicates lower pricing. Whomever can beat the price of a Pro, the pinball kingdom is theirs.

#9785 4 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Folks...pinball is easy.
I can assure you, all of your wildest pinball fantasies are about to come true.

Vote for a Pedro.

#9786 4 months ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

Hoping that DP comes out swinging with lower pricing than everyone else. This would impress the market instantly and set a new precedence. People are already talking about JJP pricing going up even more. Don’t know how they will sell many machines at even their current high pricing. The used market factors JJP’s high pricing in and is one of the reasons JJP games resale prices are so poor (POTC is the only exception, because of very limited run. Start making them again and watch how fast used POTC games drop in value). DP’s slogan of a pinball in every home, indicates lower pricing. Whomever can beat the price of a Pro, the pinball kingdom is theirs.

So unless they are willing to lose money on each sale, or have developed a secret build efficiency process we don’t know about or use cheaper materials then it seems highly unlikely that they will deliver a substantially lower price. Stern can set price due in part to being the market leader but also due to large economies of scale that DR can’t possibly have at this point. It’s why it’s been so hard for these other companies to truly disrupt Stern. Barring some major deep pockets willing to lose money for a while, DR does not have enough revenue to scale up the design and manufacturing process to thereby lower the price below Stern.

#9787 4 months ago
Quoted from pookycade:

So unless they are willing to lose money on each sale, or have developed a secret build efficiency process we don’t know about or use cheaper materials then it seems highly unlikely that they will deliver a substantially lower price. Stern can set price due in part to being the market leader but also due to large economies of scale that DR can’t possibly have at this point. It’s why it’s been so hard for these other companies to truly disrupt Stern. Barring some major deep pockets willing to lose money for a while, DR does not have enough revenue to scale up the design and manufacturing process to thereby lower the price below Stern.

I'd like to think their innovations will cut costs one way or the other in the (hopefully) long run but yes, I don't think - and Robert even backpedalled to this - that they intend to be generally "cheap" (at least from the getgo but intendedly later); just that the value will always be better.

#9788 4 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I can assure you, all of your wildest pinball fantasies are about to come true.

Really Levi?....
I can go down a pretty dark hole here.

#9789 4 months ago

jesus how many times you all have to repeat the same 'game theme speculation' tangent? Does anyone even read this stuff?

#9790 4 months ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

jesus how many times you all have to repeat the same 'game theme speculation' tangent? Does anyone even read this stuff?

7.

7 times. What do I win?

#9791 4 months ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

Hoping that DP comes out swinging with lower pricing than everyone else. This would impress the market instantly and set a new precedence. People are already talking about JJP pricing going up even more. Don’t know how they will sell many machines at even their current high pricing. The used market factors JJP’s high pricing in and is one of the reasons JJP games resale prices are so poor (POTC is the only exception, because of very limited run. Start making them again and watch how fast used POTC games drop in value). DP’s slogan of a pinball in every home, indicates lower pricing. Whomever can beat the price of a Pro, the pinball kingdom is theirs.

I agree I’d be happy as hell with pricing in the HW range .

#9792 4 months ago

Second DR game confirmed with an aptly titled name. The Never Ending Story.

#9793 4 months ago
Quoted from okgrak:

Second DP game confirmed with an aptly titled name. The Never Ending Story.

So that is after the Big Lebowski? Wrong thread though.

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#9794 4 months ago

Send me a PM if after the announcement if DR is not willing to fulfill their obligations under the GOODWILL AGREEMENT on Monday in a timely fashion

Which has already been breached

#9795 4 months ago
Quoted from pookycade:

So unless they are willing to lose money on each sale, or have developed a secret build efficiency process we don’t know about or use cheaper materials then it seems highly unlikely that they will deliver a substantially lower price. Stern can set price due in part to being the market leader but also due to large economies of scale that DR can’t possibly have at this point. It’s why it’s been so hard for these other companies to truly disrupt Stern. Barring some major deep pockets willing to lose money for a while, DR does not have enough revenue to scale up the design and manufacturing process to thereby lower the price below Stern.

Lol, they have already been very willing to lose big money over the past 5 years and have sold nothing. If the market is to be disrupted, it is always through price point. It always boils down at the end of the day to pricing, no matter the product.

Having been a manufacturer on a global scale of between 400 to 500 products, it always was pricing that made the difference, no matter the quality. If pricing is higher than competitors, your product sits on the shelf and collects dust. Maybe a few dedicated loyalist will buy no matter the price, but that is the rare exception.

#9796 4 months ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

Lol, they have already been very willing to lose big money over the past 5 years and have sold nothing. If the market is to be disrupted, it is always through price point. It always boils down at the end of the day to pricing, no matter the product.
Having been a manufacturer on a global scale of between 400 to 500 products, it always was pricing that made the difference, no matter the quality. If pricing is higher than competitors, your product sits on the shelf and collects dust. Maybe a few dedicated loyalist will buy no matter the price, but that is the rare exception.

Don’t disagree with you at all here. Price is the great disrupter in all industries. I guess what I was saying is that their only viable path to disrupt in this arena is likely to continue losing money. How deep is that wallet ? The shuttering of several of their groups suggest it ain’t that deep. And given they did it high profile burn cash mode for way longer than they intended, unless they have a sizable reserve in place that we don’t know about they are already done. Because they ain’t making money anytime soon even if shipping product.

#9797 4 months ago
Quoted from pookycade:

How deep is that wallet ?

Wilhelm from dr answered my e-mail last week a sign that 1 employee gets paid. JPOP more or less works for free for obvious reasons.

#9798 4 months ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Send me a PM if after the announcement if DR is not willing to fulfill their obligations under the GOODWILL AGREEMENT on Monday in a timely fashion
Which has already been breached

#9799 4 months ago
Quoted from Makakka:

Wilhelm from dr answered my e-mail last week a sign that 1 employee gets paid. JPOP more or less works for free for obvious reasons.

One employee is not a lot to design and build games...

#9800 4 months ago
Quoted from Thunderbird:

If pricing is higher than competitors, your product sits on the shelf and collects dust. Maybe a few dedicated loyalist will buy no matter the price, but that is the rare exception.

So why didn't Ferrari, Porsche, Benz allready close down because of Kia, Fiat etc.?

Deeproot doesn't need to be cheaper (but of course it would help) as long as they're not more expensive but better.

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