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#9051 1 year ago
Quoted from Viggin900:

Oh yeah, a whole new way of pinball manufacturing that will revalutionize the world. Stern will be 2nd in the marketplace and the release of 13 pinball games at once. Amazing what they are able to accomplish! What ever groundbreaking innovation announced was 3 years ago. We now have these things called electric cars since then.

Deeproot have battery powered pinballs?

#9052 1 year ago
Quoted from russdx:

Deeproot have battery powered pinballs?

Why can't Elon Musk make pinballs??
I would buy an awesome SpaceX machine.

#9053 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Drove by Deeproot today around 3:30
About 25 cars or so in the parking lot
There is some action going on

You sure they weren’t moving trucks or people cleaning out their offices before the feds show up?

Maybe someone tipped them off.

#9054 1 year ago

40 new posts, Must be a reveal from DR. Opens door, looks around, closes door on way out...

#9055 1 year ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Why can't Elon Musk make pinballs??
I would by an awesome SpaceX machine.

Because Elon Musk is smart?

#9056 1 year ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Why can't Elon Musk make pinballs??
I would by an awesome SpaceX machine.

Because pinball is hard...it's space flight that is easy.

#9057 1 year ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Why can't Elon Musk make pinballs??
I would by an awesome SpaceX machine.

made in the usa and at an cost in line with stern and others?

#9058 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Because Elon Musk is smart?

Very smart, he's made billions and he's his own engineer at times in his companies. He may be cocky and a jerk at times, but my friends that work at Space X with him say he's super smart and amazing to work with.

#9059 1 year ago
Quoted from nwpinball:

Very smart, he's made billions and he's his own engineer at times in his companies. He may be cocky and a jerk at times, but my friends that work at Space X with him say he's super smart and amazing to work with.

He seems to be a pretty fun kinda bloke... Lol

... voiced by The Elon Musk

Could see him doing pinball

#9060 1 year ago

Having brilliance is pointless if there's no one to listen
As my grandfather taught me, "God gave you two ears and one mouth. Use them in proportion".

I'd love to see what Elon would come up with for innovation. Its so badly needed IMHO.

#9061 1 year ago
Quoted from nwpinball:

Very smart, he's made billions and he's his own engineer at times in his companies. He may be cocky and a jerk at times, but my friends that work at Space X with him say he's super smart and amazing to work with.

I think you are missing the point here. Musk is smart enough not to want to start a pinball company.

#9062 1 year ago

Musk could name a pinball machine after his child...the pinside abbreviation would be WTF

#9063 1 year ago

Haven’t checked this thread in several months, but I see nothing is new with Deeproot...

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#9064 1 year ago

Speaking of Musk, pinball machines are indeed laughably primitive. "Innovations" like LCD screens and RGB inserts are like putting a Ring video doorbell on a 200 year old house. Doesn't change the fact it's 99% ancient.

So yeah, radical innovations are possible. But I doubt they're gonna come from a nut job like Jpop or a boss who seems to think art is all that matters.

#9065 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

Speaking of Musk, pinball machines are indeed laughably primitive. "Innovations" like LCD screens and RGB inserts are like putting a Ring video doorbell on a 200 year old house. Doesn't change the fact it's 99% ancient.
So yeah, radical innovations are possible. But I doubt they're gonna come from a nut job like Jpop or a boss who seems to think art is all that matters.

There you go practicing law without a license again!

#9066 1 year ago
Quoted from JodyG:

There you go practicing law without a license again!

My true sin was giving the correct advice

#9067 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

My true sin was giving the correct advice

Hahahahaha!

#9068 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

Doesn't change the fact it's 99% ancient.

Damn right it is... and I'd like to keep it that way (don't disagree with Ben... don't disagree with Ben... Ugh).

Pinball remains ancient because that is what makes it pinball. You can change the materials, you can change the technology. But in the end, it needs to remain pinball. Flippers and contact actuated actions. That is the essence of pinball. For a long time I thought the promise of things like visual pinball were amazing, but in the end, it cannot replace flippers and contact actuated actions happening. Just keep putting lipstick on my pinball pig and I'll be happy.

#9069 1 year ago

The projector on Stranger Things was neat for dynamic artwork. Maybe they’ll refine it for another future game.

I think little one inch OLED screens as inserts would be cool.

#9070 1 year ago
Quoted from TreyBo69:

The projector on Stranger Things was neat for dynamic artwork. Maybe they’ll refine it for another future game.
I think little one inch OLED screens as inserts would be cool.

Yeah if you see it in person works pretty well. Demogorgan shot is still awful though.

#9071 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

Or a boss who seems to think art is all that matters.

First time I hear that, usually it’s the opposite. (All the innovations, patents, octo assembly...)

What‘s the scoop?

#9072 1 year ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

First time I hear that, usually it’s the opposite.
What‘s the scoop?

Havent you noticed, all they release is artwork..

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#9073 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

My true sin was giving the correct advice

Where was your "advice" to pinheads when you realized zidware was a fail? you were in the trenches with JPOP, you could have saved people a lot of money and hardship! so don't boohoo it's insulting!.... Mr. Ben Heck the untouchable!

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#9075 1 year ago
Quoted from marlboroman:

Where was your "advice" to pinheads when you realized zidware was a fail? you were in the trenches with JPOP, you could have saved people a lot of money and hardship! so don't boohoo it's insulting!.... Mr. Ben Heck the untouchable!

I stopped associating with Zidware once it became clear I was to be an "apprentice" to a has-been instead of making my own game. As many have said John does very good "set dressing" to make things look real and lure people in. Had I stayed associated (Btw I never was paid a single dime) I'd have zilch just like the customers.

Also don't forget it wasn't politically correct to question ANY boutique back then. Like that POS Predator that duped so many.

#9076 1 year ago
Quoted from marlboroman:

Where was your "advice" to pinheads when you realized zidware was a fail?

Given the amount of money Zidware collected I don't think anyone would have predicted the catastrophic fail that occurred. Delays yes, but complete failure? That said, when John showed up at Expo with empty cabinets and the best he could do was to tout the great advance that was painted vent covers... well, that was a BIG red flag.

#9077 1 year ago

Plenty of Zidware threads. This isn't one of them.

#9078 1 year ago
Quoted from KerryImming:

Given the amount of money Zidware collected I don't think anyone would have predicted the catastrophic fail that occurred. Delays yes, but complete failure?

The guy promised an impossible objective from the start... many people did predict it was a non-starter. The faithful just didn't want to face it. The idea of building just 16 games from the start was raised. And even as it continued to unravel people didn't want to hear it... even trying to run off associates telling their stories of being burned by JPOP. The desire to want success was so strong it blinded so many from their own regular judgement.

Which sounds so familiar here...

#9079 1 year ago
Quoted from KerryImming:

Given the amount of money Zidware collected I don't think anyone would have predicted the catastrophic fail that occurred. Delays yes, but complete failure? That said, when John showed up at Expo with empty cabinets and the best he could do was to tout the great advance that was painted vent covers... well, that was a BIG red flag.

That was the beginning of the end

The wheels fell off right after that expo

I only went down $4950

Could have been a lot more

Arrogance just destroys. Jpop should have asked for help much earlier

Instead, he kept taking money on that ponzi like effort

#9080 1 year ago

I’m new to the hobby.

Name me a new company that people/buyers threw money at that actually came through for them with a great machine, thus warranting the prerequisite to give money to them without a trusted name and reputation to stand on? Was the product/machine worth “getting in on” before orders were being fulfilled?

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#9081 1 year ago
Quoted from Scandell:

Name me a new company that people/buyers threw money at that actually came through for them with a great machine, thus warranting the prerequisite to give money to them without a trusted name and reputation to stand on? Was the product/machine worth “getting in on” before orders were being fulfilled?

Illinois Pin Ball ( Big Bang Bar )

Jersey Jack Pinball ( Wizard Of Oz )

LTG : )

#9082 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

Illinois Pin Ball ( Big Bang Bar )
Jersey Jack Pinball ( Wizard Of Oz )
LTG : )

I guess I challenge that it was worth the risk. If that game is that good. Then it’s likely it would rereleased.

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#9083 1 year ago
Quoted from Scandell:

I guess I challenge that it was worth the risk. If that game is that good. Then it’s likely it would rereleased.

Well yes and no.

Illinois Pin Ball was first. There were prototype BBB's out there. Things didn't go as planned. But Gene did get it done.

Jersey Jack Pinball ( in particular Jack ) was a known commodity. People wanted in no matter what, because of who it was. Wasn't smooth sailing but Jack made Wizard Of Oz happen and the company continued.

Unfortunately this opened the door so anyone could announce that they would build a pinball machine. And unfortunately this opened the door to many people thinking it could happen and got burned thinking everyone venture would be successful.

And a couple notables like Spooky Pinball and P3 Multimorphic Pinball, put their nose to the grindstone and are making pinball machines.

LTG : )

#9084 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

And a couple notables like Spooky Pinball and P3 Multimorphic Pinball, put their nose to the grindstone and are making pinball machines.

Forgot American Pinball

#9085 1 year ago
Quoted from transprtr4u:

Forgot American Pinball

Not on purpose.

They didn't announce and ask for deposits as I recall. Same as Spooky and P3 Multimorphic. They announced and forged ahead.

Jersey Jack Pinball didn't ask for deposits either. People started offering and wanted in. I believe once they had a building and were moving forward, people could make a deposit and get in line for a game.

LTG : )

#9086 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

They didn't announce and ask for deposits

Apologies ... you are correct

#9087 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

They didn't announce and ask for deposits

Very Important distinction.

#9088 1 year ago

"Zidware" was Jeremy Packer.

Stern "saved" it the smart way by hiring him.

Change my mind.

#9089 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

"Zidware" was Jeremy Packer.

Stern "saved" it the smart way by hiring him.

Change my mind.

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#9090 1 year ago

So when things fail one looks for common elements. The obvious one here is JPOP. Interestingly American Pinball did have a link to JPOP but then cut it, got in a designer that could get things done and we now have pinballs from them. I certainly don’t mean to pin deeproot’s issues entirely on JPOP, but there are those who can get things done, efficiently. And then there are those “artists” that have to be managed. Honestly if deeproot does fail you can trace it to the people initially hired. Tells you a lot about a company. Despite reading this story from the beginning I never did understand why they brought JPOP on board and immersed themselves in the baggage he brought with him. Think about how much wasted brainpower and hours that cost them. Could have had a competent designer for a lot less $ and probably would have given themselves a much better fighting chance in the process.

#9091 1 year ago

Is Stern really stockpiling pins at Deeproot facility?

#9092 1 year ago

Looks like 9 days to go until they turn on the spotlight.
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#9093 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

Looks like 9 days to go until they turn on the spotlight.

I hope it's something exciting for their fans and those waiting.

LTG : )

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#9094 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

Looks like 9 days to go until they turn on the spotlight.
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THEY STOLE MY JOB!!!

#9095 1 year ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

THEY STOLE MY JOB!!!

You get even days. Odd days are for discussing the history of Jpop.

#9096 1 year ago

I'm excited. New jjp coming soon and Deeproot. I'm stoked for any alternative to the newest Stern.

Great days for pinball!

#9097 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

Looks like 9 days to go until they turn on the spotlight.

They seem to keep the promise to release raza in September. The timing is quite perfect before any other releases.

#9098 1 year ago

Here's hoping the launch goes well!

#9099 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

Here's hoping the launch goes well!

JJP-Stern-Deeproot....its going to be a crowded cage match of new games this September! Someone please photoshop Uncle Gary diving off the ropes and bodyslamming Jack, while Robert has a folding chair in his hand attempting to finish the other two off. pleeeease?

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#9100 1 year ago
Quoted from JodyG:

JJP-Stern-Deeproot....its going to be a crowded cage match of new games this September! Someone please photoshop Uncle Gary diving off the ropes and bodyslamming Jack, while Robert has a folding chair in his hand attempting to finish the other two off. pleeeease?

Robert is the guy outside the arena selling homemade shirts right now. He hasn't entered the main event yet.

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