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Twilight Zone pop bumer cap order

By dgoett

10 years ago

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Latest reply 10 years ago by calvin12
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#1 10 years ago

DWG

dgoett

Pinside member

Clark, MO

11y 95,650 2,418 14 26

Ok. Since I see TZ pop bumper caps in the wrong order all the time, I'm adding this tread so you all can correct them.
The lighting caps correspond to the skill shot. Make the lower skill shot [red] it lights the upper left pop bumper [RED]. Middle skill shot [orange] lights both the upper left AND upper right which is ORANGE. Top skill shot is yellow which lights all of them so yellow would be on the bottom.

Yes, I know the flyer is wrong. Yes, I know TZ shipped with with some dumb amber cap, but IMHO, they should be red, orange and yellow corresponding with the skill shot artwork.

/off soapbox

Just drives me batsh!t crazy is all.

#2 10 years ago

BTW

btw75

Inactive member

Round Rock, TX

10y 74,400 3,098 6 23

I know I know i know. Mine came wrong from the previous owner and there are the colored skirts installed so no easy change. When I do the next big shop out I'll change 'em back. The artwork on the mini-playfield also indicate the correct order confirmed by the skill shot/lighting pattern.

#3 10 years ago

NEO

CaptainNeo

Playfield restorations

Burlington, WI

11y 148K 22,432 37 77 1

some did come with amber. I've seen factory early TZ, the red and amber/orange caps were damn close in color it was almost hard to tell them apart.

#4 10 years ago

LTG

Pinside member

Hopkins, MN

12y 191K 56,905 24 7

Quoted from CaptainNeo:
some did come with amber. I've seen factory early TZ, the red and amber/orange caps were damn close in color it was almost hard to tell them apart.

Some of the real early ones had a grapefruit colored cap too.

LTG : )

#5 10 years ago

TOY

mario_1_up

Pinside member

Fairbank, IA

11y 80,800 2,350 24 8

Quoted from CaptainNeo:
some did come with amber. I've seen factory early TZ, the red and amber/orange caps were damn close in color it was almost hard to tell them apart.

That's the way mine are.

#6 10 years ago

TNT

Fanatic

Inactive member

Unknown

10y 10,900 89

Just finished swapping mine for the correct color/order a few weeks back.
I never noticed the relation to the skill shot until I got the correct color order installed.
Thanks to the OP - I don't feel so obsessive compulsive now.
The project appears daunting at first with having to cut the band or ribbon style conductor for the lamp sockets.
If you're strategic about where you cut the conductor, it will quickly and simply overlap for re-soldering. One of the simplest mods to perform in my opinion.
Also, I re-installed the incandescent bulbs into the bumpers. The LEDs were just too blinding.

#7 10 years ago

DCK

burningman

Pinside member

Vero Beach, FL

11y 86,550 3,218 9

added to favorites! thanks for the post op...

#8 10 years ago

TOY

mario_1_up

Pinside member

Fairbank, IA

11y 80,800 2,350 24 8

Quoted from Fanatic:
Just finished swapping mine for the correct color/order a few weeks back.
I never noticed the relation to the skill shot until I got the correct color order installed.
Thanks to the OP - I don't feel so obsessive compulsive now.
The project appears daunting at first with having to cut the band or ribbon style conductor for the lamp sockets.
If you're strategic about where you cut the conductor, it will quickly and simply overlap for re-soldering. One of the simplest mods to perform in my opinion.
Also, I re-installed the incandescent bulbs into the bumpers. The LEDs were just too blinding.

That's a lot of work for changing 3 pop bumper caps.

#9 10 years ago

BTW

btw75

Inactive member

Round Rock, TX

10y 74,400 3,098 6 23

Quoted from mario_1_up:
That's a lot of work for changing 3 pop bumper caps.

For some of us, having them out of order is maddening. TZ uses the order specifically, so to have the game say "orange is lit" but in fact the yellow is lit just won't do.

#10 10 years ago

DWG

dgoett

Pinside member

Clark, MO

11y 95,650 2,418 14 26

I'm glad you all were receptive to my OCD. I had my flame suit on but was fully prepared to defend myself with logic and facts.

#11 10 years ago

TOY

mario_1_up

Pinside member

Fairbank, IA

11y 80,800 2,350 24 8

Quoted from btw75:
For some of us, having them out of order is maddening. TZ uses the order spboughtcifically, so to have the game say "oraswitchedis lit" but in fact the yellow is lit just won't do.

The more I thought about it made me think I need to switch my out. Luckily I had a bunch of pop caps I bought from Terry at the mgc last year. So i switched them out to the right order.

#12 10 years ago

BTW

btw75

Inactive member

Round Rock, TX

10y 74,400 3,098 6 23

Quoted from mario_1_up:
The more I thought about it made me think I need to switch my out. Luckily I had a bunch of pop caps I bought from Terry at the mgc last year. So i switched them out to the right order.

Unfortunately for me it is not that easy since my bodies are colored as well.

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#13 10 years ago

JSG

Thor-NL

Pinside member

Breda

11y 97,650 2,288 8

^^^Time to do a popbumper rebuild, Vid has a nice instruction thread for it

Do it !!

#14 10 years ago

BTW

btw75

Inactive member

Round Rock, TX

10y 74,400 3,098 6 23

Quoted from Thor-NL:
^^^Time to do a popbumper rebuild, Vid has a nice instruction thread for it
Do it !!

They were freshly rebuilt.... but when it is time to shop this pin I will do it again anyway. I agree that vid's thread is great.

#15 10 years ago

MIK

Miguel351

Pinside member

11y 81,400 4,567 3

To further back up the claim to the corresponding colors to the skill shot, that same clockwise pattern of red-orange-yellow is reflected on the mini playfield in the lightning bolts.

People mess up at the factory and just slap on caps. PL didn't mess up the playfields.

#16 10 years ago

SMK

skristof

Pinside member

Round Lake Beach, IL

11y 37,150 256 10

Redoing the pops isnt too bad, just a pain to re do the wiring sometimes....

#17 10 years ago

NEO

CaptainNeo

Playfield restorations

Burlington, WI

11y 148K 22,432 37 77 1

Quoted from btw75:
Unfortunately for me it is not that easy since my bodies are colored as well.

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Just change the solder wires on the lights. Then they will light in order.

#18 10 years ago

JSB

Joshmx19

Pinside member

Dornsife, PA

11y 66,400 1,259 20

OP
Quoted from dgoett:
I'm glad you all were receptive to my OCD. I had my flame suit on but was fully prepared to defend myself with logic and facts.

I am restoring a game for someone and they are in the correct order. My personal game is wrong oh well, bugs me whenever I play it but never feel like fixing it!

#19 10 years ago

BTW

btw75

Inactive member

Round Rock, TX

10y 74,400 3,098 6 23

Quoted from CaptainNeo:
Just change the solder wires on the lights. Then they will light in order.

Ha!

#20 10 years ago

CAP

Capper96

Pinside member

Fort Worth, TX

12y 34,400 598 4 2

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this really bugs me too. another thing that irks me is when all the pops have the red skirt on them from the factory. I think it looks better with matching skirts

#21 10 years ago

DWG

dgoett

Pinside member

Clark, MO

11y 95,650 2,418 14 26

I do like those matching skirts. never occurred to me to do that when I installed my cc'd playfield [years ago]. next time it's torn down for a cleaning, I'll install them.

#22 10 years ago

TNT

Fanatic

Inactive member

Unknown

10y 10,900 89

Quoted from mario_1_up:
That's a lot of work for changing 3 pop bumper caps.

I was not clear that I changed the skirts as well as the caps. Sorry about that.
It seemed two of the caps on my game were red and all of the skirts were red.
In order to change the skirts, some disassembly was necessary.

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#23 10 years ago

KLR

kray37

Inactive member

Mansfield, TX

11y 31,650 282 9 6

Quoted from mario_1_up:
That's the way mine are.

mine too!

#24 10 years ago

NEO

CaptainNeo

Playfield restorations

Burlington, WI

11y 148K 22,432 37 77 1

I prefer the skirts raised.

#25 10 years ago

DOM

Dommer

Inactive member

St. Louis, MO

11y 27,400 532 3 8

I just picked up an early run game (green lock light, grey clock, pop bumper posts). The top two are red and the bottom one is pink-ish/amber/orange/grapefruit. Thinking about changing them to the what dgoett suggested, though the skits won't match, but not that big of a stickler, especially since I know that they correspond with the skill shot.

#26 10 years ago

JOE

calvin12

Frozen

Unknown

13y 0k 2,972 10

You can also just make them the same as the mini pf. It's the same order.

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