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Twilight Zone Owner's club

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#723 4 years ago

I'm currently restoring a TZ, so I'm posting here, just in order to joining the club!!!!!


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#749 4 years ago
Quoted from DefaultGen:

This Ebay store, I just ordered the piano myself:
ebay.com link
Just tore down my playfield. Lots of things behind other things, I can't wait to screw up putting it back together. Feels more annoying than STTNG already.

Wow.... these mods keep getting pricier in a daily basis.....

#759 4 years ago
Quoted from cheshirefilms:

Check out the original flyer from Bally, that's not actually the case. The yellow always went upper right


I have also heard about it... the colors of the pop bumpers on the flyer are not in the correct meant position. ... Anyway, I like mine all orange... the only differential being my lamp colors follows the order that Coyote posted (yellow, orange, red ).... it gives a nice subtle effect!

#761 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Interesting, have a pic?
I'm not into mods on my TZ, but the one thing I DID do was change the skirts to match the cap color.

I'll try to take a picture that bests capture the effect... like I said, it's very subtle, so I don't know if it will show that much.... And my skirts are all orange as well

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#771 4 years ago
Quoted from SuperPinball:

nice wrapping job

Sometimes is nice to have a good laugh!!!!!

#787 4 years ago
Quoted from Bowlingpin:

Picked this up a few days ago..
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Pretty sure its a Frankensteined twilight zone. Meaning it's a sample/prototype play field but everything else sugguests it's a regular model.. After some tweaking and some love it's playing like a champ.
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Love this game

How do you know it has a proto PF?

#796 4 years ago
Quoted from Bowlingpin:

Does not have 3rd magnet, mini playfield has the "flip here" text.. So maybe it's just a early model? Manufacture date on the cabinet is 5/18/93

Some pics would be nice!

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#818 4 years ago
Quoted from german-pinball:

I have 500 pcbs here again.
I wanna make a special offer for all pinsiders.
The next 20 orders I will sell the board for only 99,00 USD (regular 130,00 USD) including sets of warm-white, cold white and blue Superfluxx-LEDs. So you can spare 43,00 USD to the regular price. Shipping to outside Europe is 8,00 USD instead of 17,00 USD.
The rainbows-LEDs are 14,00 USD.
If you are interested, simply send me a PM.

Just PM'ed Ingo and got an extremely quick response.... I'll send my paypal payment tomorrow!

#831 4 years ago
Quoted from AlexSMendes:

Just PM'ed Ingo and got an extremely quick response.... I'll send my paypal payment tomorrow!


#833 4 years ago
Quoted from DefaultGen:

Just bought Ingo's second to last sale board. Figure if I'm going deep into Twilight Zone I might as well do it right.
Anyone looking for a used third party replacement board?

I can PM you my home address so you can send it to me for free!!!

#851 4 years ago
Quoted from ryanwanger:

What I meant is that the left one is entirely different. It should say: "Defeat the power by shooting the ball thru top of pyramid". Like this: http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-16416-2


#859 4 years ago
Quoted from JohnnyHK:

Man, I simply do not get the current mod-crazy pinball culture. Guess I'm just a purist...or just old.

Sometimes less is more! I defnitely feel that when it comes to the TZ.

#862 4 years ago
Quoted from Lermods:

Those guys have some pretty outrageous prices.

I think that's the case with all the mod sellers....

Anyway, Pinball Decals' quality are very good, and Joey is an extremely nice pinball fellow!

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#885 4 years ago

So..... lots of used clock boards for sale on ebay.... wonder why's that!

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#926 4 years ago
Quoted from Invader:

Some of you guys are going to hate me for this, but I applied new (cheap, not original) decals over my old (faded and damaged) decals
Also without removing the playfield and putting the cabinet on the side etc.
Why? Because I don't have the space, tools and time to do so currently.
And old decals were ugly and I needed to get it look better, so I tried this "easy" way
I also got new original decals (with correct color scheme) in stock, I hope sometime in my life, I have the time to do a full renovation of my TZ.
Then I'll apply the decals the right way
But for now, this turned out pretty good luckily!
Some minor imperfections, but waaaay better looking than with old decals.
I did fill the deep scratches/holes with bondo and sanded it by the way.
At the legs I didn't fill it up, because I'm using leg protectors, so you can see that on the picture.
I was afraid the old decal would shine through, but that's not the case woohoo.
OH and to get the two big bolts out from the side of the cabinet, I lifted the playfield a bit with a bunch of tape rolls
Just had to work with the stuff I got.
And I replaced the siderails with shiny black ones, and black leg+bolts+leveler.


From the picture there's no way to see the minor imperfections, and it looks real good! I like the black metals as well!

Also liked the internal side-art!

Good job man! Now enjoy!!!!

#927 4 years ago
Quoted from LitzDoc:

I got Ingo's clock board last week. I am ready to install. I have not done much of this kind of work on my TZ. Do you have any pointers on how to install the board without screwing other things up in the pin? I am a little nervous because my TZ is rock solid electronically and I dont want to cause problems.

Mine still underway.... brazilian customs are a b****!

But I'm looking forward to read the replies of your post, because I've got the exact same problem.... I don't have the necessary skills and I'm so f**** afraid to s**** things up!!!!

PS: Moderators, sorry for so many **** words!

#934 4 years ago
Quoted from Nightmare:

The one and MAJOR pointer that I can give you is to make sure the clock is at the 12 o'clock position before swapping at the boards. You want the gears set to that. If you don't, you will have major problems. Also, when you take the clock a part and remove the hands, don't lose the pin that holds everything together. Here's a doc that explains everything in detail from Ingo.

Quoted from Lermods:

Removing the clock and replacing the board is really very simple, I can do it in 2 minutes now.
1. Remove the plastic around the clock (if you have a piano, undo the screw holding it on first)
2. Unhook the motor power connector that's under the playfield and feed up through the Pf.
3. Undo the 2 screws holding the clock bracket
4. Lift clock and pull off two connectors. Clock will now be free.
5. Remove plastic face
6. Remove ear clip that holds hands on
7. Pull off hands, noting orientation (watch the pin underneath minute hand so you don't lose it.)
8. Undo 4 screws holding bracket in back and pull the motor and gears back (it's all one piece.)
9. Pull out board and replace it making sure you put it in oriented the right way.
10. Clean and lube the gears while you are there.
11. Button it all back up.
I'm going from memory as it's been a few months since I've done it, but It should not intimidate anyone as its about a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being changing a bulb.
Others can chime in with tips or if I've missed something. I was in the same boat with mine not too long ago so hope this helps out.

LitzDoc, I don't know about you, but I am way more at easy now!!!!

#940 4 years ago
Quoted from Invader:

Finished, now I can finally play
I only have to fix a topper to make it complete
And fix my Ingo clock board problem (Ingo, please check your mail, send you couple of e-mails with no reply yet).



#949 4 years ago

I'm having such a hard time trying to find a spare ceramic power ball for my TZ.... The ones I found on the net are way too f*** expensive..... Can anyone please help me?

#952 4 years ago
Quoted from MrBellMan:

Pinball Life has them for $27. I think that was the cheapest, but they are on VAC now. I'm just going to clean and polish my old one.

Hey, thanks for the tip...., I still think it's expensive, but that's the best price I've seen so far..... I'll send an e-mail to Terry anyway!

#953 4 years ago
Quoted from AlexSMendes:

Hey, thanks for the tip...., I still think it's expensive, but that's the best price I've seen so far..... I'll send an e-mail to Terry anyway!

Yep - closed untill June 22nd.

#961 4 years ago
Quoted from apc7654:

I just installed rubber rings, which I purchased from Marcos. They sent the amount and type of rings that were called out in the manual. What I discovered is that, for my playfield, the amount of rings and the location specified in the manual was incorrect in several instances. I have attached a corrected page "2-56" of the manual, which includes the correct amount of rings, and corrected locations on the playfield.
I don't know if there are different production playfields out there, but this page was corrected for my playfield configuration.
TZ rubber rings.jpg

Saved for future reference! Thanks!

#963 4 years ago
Quoted from MrBellMan:

I'm old and have a horrible memory...
Does anyone know where I can download these TZ custom cards? I got them a few years back, but forgot where...


pinballrebel ?

#966 4 years ago

These are the best!

#969 4 years ago
Quoted from Leo13:

Indeed, but very annoying to not have a search engine !

Dude... about only 8 or 9 pages to navigate.... Awesome art and they're FREE!!!!

#993 4 years ago

My restored PF arrived today!!!


#995 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Nice! Who did yours?
It's still odd to me to see the 'proper' colors on the ramp. I'm so used to mine -

You'll have to send yours to São Paulo - Brazil!

The artist who does those PF restorations is the same guy who used to paint Ayrton Senna's helmets!!!

He also restored my TAF and TotAN PFs!

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#998 4 years ago
Quoted from Invader:

Finished, now I can finally play
I only have to fix a topper to make it complete
And fix my Ingo clock board problem (Ingo, please check your mail, send you couple of e-mails with no reply yet).


I'm also trying to contact Ingo.... did anyone hear from him lately?

#1002 4 years ago

Replied you Ingo, thanks!

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#1030 4 years ago

Cabinet getting ready!


#1032 4 years ago


#1034 4 years ago

And my brand new clock board from Ingo finally arrived!

#1035 4 years ago
Quoted from Luppin:

Like brand new!

I surely hope... You see, like you all I'm also seeing the machine only by photos... It is being restored in Sao Paulo, approximately 500 km from home!

#1037 4 years ago
Quoted from Luppin:

hi, I checked my TZ software. It says revision L-5 and sound revision P-3. Are those revisions enough advanced? where to find the revisions list for TZ?

I do think the latest game version is 9.4H for home use (free play). As for the sound rom P-3 would be the last.

Font: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2684

#1042 4 years ago
Quoted from Luppin:

I cannot see L-5 in this list... ??
Also, the Romset list is in alphabetical order, so I cannot figure out how recent is my revision.
Any help?

Take a look at some ebay listings.... usually the chips for sale have the latest versions.

#1045 4 years ago

I am looking for a nice custom TZ shooter rod.... any tips?

#1052 4 years ago

Hi y'all.... I am looking for a nice custom TZ shooter rod.... can anyone help me?

(just in case my previous post was missed among all these rom discussion)

#1063 4 years ago

My wife is at her mom's.... so I thought.... how shall I spend a rainy winter sunday alone at home?


#1073 4 years ago

Look at what I've found at pinballdecals.com:


#1077 4 years ago
Quoted from DefaultGen:

Sweet that shooter Rod made it to pinballdecals, so it's probably only like $120 to get one.

Joey from pinballdecals is a very nice pinball guy.... anyway, if you're looking for some another awesome shooter "Rod"s, PM our pinside fellow "pinball_customs".

#1083 4 years ago

Internal cabinet decals installed today!


#1084 4 years ago

One more week till it comes home...... we're anxious......


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#1103 4 years ago

Finally.... TZ home... still some little tweaks to do, but play smoothly!!!!!

First pics:


#1104 4 years ago

Note 1: I need a new translite!

#1114 4 years ago

Should I use these toys as toppers?


#1125 4 years ago
Quoted from Lermods:

It's a very complex game. If you don't know the game well, you will be rolling the dice a bit. Clock, kick outs, boards, powerball recognition, gumball machine, mini pf. If the game has 9.4h rom, play the litz cheat and see how the game deals with all the balls.
I've got a lot of mods available too
Good luck, it's a fantastic game!

I just got my TZ and I am still learning the game.... I have 9.4H installed.... whats litz cheat?

What mods have you got?

#1131 4 years ago
Quoted from ALY:

Starting 6 ball wizard mode - Lost in the Zone (LitZ) at start to practice.

Quoted from Lermods:

Litz cheat is started with buyin button upon starting a game.
Here's my mods if you are interested...

Thanks for the answers, fellows.....

Well, I tried to start a game and then press the extra ball button for 5 seconds, but nothing happened.....

So.... I'm wondering if:

1) is there any specific setting I should change?
2) maybe my extra ball button is not working?
3) am I doing something wrong?

#1133 4 years ago

Yeah, I checked it and Litz Cheat is set to yes..... the game did not play the TZ song on start, but I will try with the glass off, shooting into the piano/slot....

#1144 4 years ago

Says the guy with 41 games at his collection!

#1146 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Note -
You have to press the Ex Ball button while the game's already going.
Start a game.
Hold down the Ex Ball button for a long time, until you hear the TZ sound.
Then shoot the piano or slot.
And yes.. your Ex Ball button has to be working.

Looks like my ex-ball is really not working.... Set the game to buy a credit at the end of the game and I couldn't do it either.... So I got to have it checked...

#1149 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

There's a fantastic and MUCH easier way to tell..
It's called the 'Switch Test'. In fact, it's the first test in the Test menu. A lot easier than starting a game and playing three balls to find out.

#1151 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

..I mean.. unless you WANT to play a game.

Just went through the switch test, and it confirmed all my suspicious.... the button is really dead!!!

#1153 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Admittedly, that's odd. There's not much there to fail. I'm guessing some wires between the button and the CDI got cut or unplugged.

Yeah, maybe something got loose.... I ain't got tech skills (definitely suck big time), but I'll try to take a look anyway!

#1170 4 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Hell.. I got started in '92. There was no internet, and I didn't know a THING about reading schematics. Thanks to several books bought used, I taught myself all these tricks and tips. Of course, this was back when you had to know what a command-prompt was on a computer, because there WAS no Windows 3.1.
Yeah, I'm old. If I had a front yard, and I had neighbors, I'd be telling those kids to stay off my lawn!

#1186 3 years ago
Quoted from Luppin:

I am planning to buy 9.4h revision. It will allow 7 balls play. I need to buy the sixth regular ball and I am shopping at Pinball Heaven. They have "steel balls" and "premium balls". The description says the "steel balls" are not good for games with magnets, while premium are. So do I need premium balls? But in the pic they look like darker, while mine existing 5 regular balls looks like a normal, regular steel color.
So what do TZ use regular steel balls or special ones suited for magnets?

At least for me, regular balls don't seem to be a problem... I often defeat the power with no much trouble!

#1192 3 years ago

Lots of mods that block the ball view and deviate the attention from the game play.... I don't get it and I just don't dig it!

Mods should only be placed like if they were meant to be there in the first place!

#1201 3 years ago
Quoted from nocreditdot:

I'm back in the club after a 10 year hiatus. Dumb question there are 3 holes for leg bolts. Do I use the upper 2 or the lower 2?

Well, how tall are you????

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#1229 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Nice game - it's a later sample, since you have the production colors in front of the left ramp, but have the white door on the backbox.

Nice, I wasn't aware of that detail!

#1230 3 years ago
Quoted from dgoett:

OK - As requested.
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Looks like just left Bally's factory!

#1235 3 years ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

Really? I seen them before on a restoration? Just bc they weren't available from a licensee do t mean they cant be had

If I had that info prior to order my decals I would have asked for the white doors..... I almost made mine all B/W....

#1238 3 years ago
Quoted from dgoett:

white door decals are available at planetarypinball. it's a micro 3rd magnet playfield.
I actually have a REAL prototype gumball/collect spiral when lit plastic in the coin tub. they originally came with a decal over the plastic of the gumball machine. it's a rare piece to find.
it's kind of an imposter proto but has almost all the features and artwork of a proto. no red boards obviously.


#1247 3 years ago
Quoted from Neal_W:

If you scroll up, you can see the image of his back box. The doorway is white on the side of the back box, not orange/yellow.

Yeah, I didn't make my self clear.... I was refering to the " REAL prototype gumball/collect spiral when lit plastic in the coin tub".

#1252 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinballs:

I added a Pinsound card and stereo cable kit, and installed the DCS soundtrack that was originally produced for TZ. A really nice sound. Now I'm thinking new speakers!
TZ was my first machine in 1999... that I sold in 2000!! Then got another one 6 years ago, and had it completely refurbed (down to cabinet wood sanding level).Now it's mint, with all the mods. My favourite machine I could never sell it, hell I'll need to be buried in it.

Nice... Where did you buy this kit?

#1253 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

I was there when it was delivered, and left the company (personell issues) for about 18 months before I snuck in and claimed it as my own.
The game USED to have the LEFT spiral sign as well (with the wording), but it's long lost now. I have a blank sign I'll be putting up sometime after my restore's finished.

Awesome... Getting to know TZ history!!!

#1256 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinballs:

I bought it from Nicolas himself @ the Pinsound stand at the UK Pinball Party. He was really helpful in giving me advice afterwards too. A 5-star recommend from me.

Thanks, I'll definitely take a look!

#1257 3 years ago

Now I can't recall if I posted before, but I just gotta say that I have Ingo's clock board installed, and though it's german, it works like a swiss clock!


#1262 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Technically, no adjustment is needed, no newer ROM is needed. The game was originally designed for 7 balls - 6 regular, 1 powerball. My machine still had the decal on it that says that, even. (It was dirty and scraped up, I had new ones made..) You can set the gumball adjustment to 4 balls, but I do not know if it will 'simulate' the powerball every 4 balls or not. Honestyl, the adjustment does not do much, as the game will load up balls into the gumball until there are only three in the trough, so you could have 2 or even 5 balls in the gumball, the game doesn't really keep track.
The game dropped a ball due to that amount of balls making LITZ a little too difficult with the jackpot shots and powerfield, as far as I heard.
Once balls go into my game agian, I plan on making it 7.

Got 7 on mine. ROM 9.4H.

#1264 3 years ago

Cute little toppers.


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#1269 3 years ago

New shooter "Rod".20150925_120537.jpg20150925_120453.jpg

#1275 3 years ago

Little issue here...: I'm not getting the piano award when I get the ball into the piano hole. Instead the machine is granting me a slot award..... is there any faulty sensor I guess? Can't see any error on switch test....

#1280 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Piano switch is not registering. Check it.

Checked! Right on target, thanks! You know, sometimes I got to be less lazy/more curious!

#1281 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

After getting back from the first of two work trips Saturday morning, I attacked my TZ and got a lot done this weekend -
Lookat the reflection of that PF!

Getting beautiful!

#1311 3 years ago

For those who, like me, can't afford the gumballs people sell on ebay (are they made of gold or what?).

#1335 3 years ago
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

Twilight Zone - "The most abused title with mods in the history of pinball".

I just don't dig all those TZ mods: slot machine, rocketship, camera, robot, talky tina, etc, etc, etc.... they all get in the way of the ball view....

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#1351 3 years ago
Quoted from Plumonium:

Where did you get that Chinese checker game?

Bought mine on ebay (UK) and just arrived! I can say that it's the real deal!

#1367 3 years ago
Quoted from neurokinetik:

I've had my TZ for so long that it just does not get the play that it used to. Looked at my audits the other day, and only 39 plays since March of this year when I installed the NVRAM.
But I finally got sick of seeing the default high scores on there yesterday and decided to do something about it. I did eventually get back on the board, but during that one good game, I had not one, but two separate multiballs with the powerball in play (obviously failed to get Powerball Mania going). Cashed in double jackpots both times, of 160M and 130M. Highest I've ever personally done.
The powerball aspect during multiball is just one of many things that makes this the best game ever. Lots of games have multiball, but none say "oh, you have to make the jackpot shot with just this one particular ball to double it". Genius.

I'm also lovin' my TZ.... so proud to be a member of this club!!!

#1375 3 years ago
Quoted from Goner:

Gumballs are tough to insert. The plastic will flex enough to insert the gumball. Just insert one at a time. The first is the hardest, thinking you're going to crack the plastic.

Hehe... so I'll try again because at first I simply gave up.....

#1382 3 years ago
Quoted from Animal:

I wanted to share my home made topper for my TZ. There are lots of great TZ toppers and when I got my machine I asked myself what is the perfect topper for this pin and I thought a replica of an old school TV playing real episodes of the Twilight Zone:
» YouTube video
The episodes being played are the episodes that were the creative influence behind the art work and theme of the pinball machine. So talking tina is represented by the episode "The Living Doll", the cannon on the backglass is represented by one of the Civil War episodes "The Passerby", the Camera is inspired by the episode "A most unusual Camera" and the episode playing on my video is the ending of " The Monsters are due on Maple Street."
The TV housing was picked up on ebay, was soooo lucky to find a miniature sized "floor-model" and the videos are playing on a portable dvd player. Four episodes per DVD and 16 episodes are on 4 DVDs that I made up. As well, during the commercial breaks I inserted all 3 openings of the TV show since the are so cool. The toughest part was dremeling out a channel along the inside of the TV to centre the portable dvd player screen in the TV housing.

Very nice idea indeed.... as fellow pinsider xTheblackknightx, my TZ also has a collection of mini toys....


#1384 3 years ago
Quoted from Lermods:

Just looked at pinball decals site for TZ mods, and while I don't like to criticize other mods because I wouldn't like it if it were done to me, but wow those prices are high. They are the exact reason I started making mods. I mean $200 for this invader is really unfair to the community. I try to give pinsiders good deals... in many cases, I can do deals where they can get four maybe five mods for close to what they charge for a mod like this, and then they are done modding. I make mods to support my pinball addiction, not screw people. Some mods truly do cost more, largely because of the labor involved as they need to be painted and assembled (slot machine is a good example and the Masudaya robot is probably the mostly costly mod to find). This guy is trying to say his product is good because it has heat shrink...wtf?

Man, I surely can relate, especially being from Brazil when, in addition to high shipping costs, most of the time I'm hugely taxed from brazilian customs... So, if you think those prices are high, imagine supporting this hobby down here.... Anyway, I can give credit for Joey from pinballdecals that he is a really nice guy and has helped me a lot in the past few years!

But, that being said, let me ask you (and please forgive me if you have already answered this question anywhere on this thread)... What mods do you have and how much do you ask for them?

#1386 3 years ago
Quoted from Lermods:

I have them all, or most of them. And for other games too, LOTR, tspp, IJ, Avengers, IM.
Also have Masudaya robot for $90.
I give 10% discount on multiple mods, sometimes more if you buy a lot. Shipping always free in US. When I ship international I state on the customs form that the value is $10 and that it's a gift so you international guys don't get hit too hard. Most are very simple to install, none require soldering.
I sell them on eBay for more than pinside, no discounts on eBay. I've also started selling through mezel mods, they have great customer service and many other mods to add to an order.

Thanks, I'll take a look!

#1389 3 years ago
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

For all those that might not remember there was a specific 16" "Robby the Robot" 1997 Masudaya Japanese model kit (1/5 scale) (might be the one mentioned) that was offered as a pinball topper quite a few years ago.
The creator fully re-wired the completed model kits to use them with the game (flashers, lights, primitive LEDs, etc). Outstanding workmanship and cost $200 at the time. That is an example of a topper that was worth the money, because today it would cost well over $400. The Robby on top of my machine is the 12 inch toy electronic voice controller version, but still damn expensive now if still in the box.
Here is a photo of the actual robot with the proper sound clips and LEDs (not game wired here):
» YouTube video
"For your convenience, I am monitored to respond to the name, Robby".
War of the Robots:
» YouTube video

Well, although I also own a "Robby the Robot" action figure as a topper, it is only fair to say that Robby was a robot that appeared on a film called "Forbidden Planet". The robot that appears on one of TZ episodes is a customized robot with the same outfit but a whole different head (inside the "helmet"). Well, the robot pictured on the TZ playfield, is actually Robby itself, though I think it's another sin commited by the artists on the TZ artwork!


#1394 3 years ago
Quoted from xTheBlackKnightx:

There are lot of artwork errors that occurred with licensed themes in pinball machines.
Some, such as this one, are much less noticeable, considering very few people were even alive here when the original TZ series aired on television in the early 1960s, let alone "Forbidden Planet" in 1956.
Others were caused by interference by the actors or the licences-ees themselves that did not know their own canon data.
Another famous one was the debacle with Taxi and Marilyn Monroe, which everybody remembers.
If you look closely at nearly every single pinball machine that is tied to a licensed theme you will see differences, or outright changes.
Lets see if people know what might be lurking on The Addams Family for example...they are out there...

Now you gotta tell me about TAF.... I'm curious!

#1400 3 years ago
Quoted from Sparky:

Yes, but that's not what miamiredskin was asking. He was asking about the Bally slot machine Twilight Zone. There's a gumball machine on it. He was wondering why the slot machine would reference the pinball machine if there's no gumball connection to an episode.

Is there anywhere a TZ slot machine? Made by Bally? Pics?

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#1459 3 years ago

Glad I got Ingo's clock board..... works flawlessly and Ingo's a really nice buddy... great benefit for the money... definitely a no-brainer!

#1468 3 years ago
Quoted from scampcamp:

I've pm johnwartjr just waiting for reply.

You can download it from the TZ page.... Or else look for the chip at ebay!

#1470 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Hell, if I wasn't heading out of town today for a week, I'd burn your a copy for free.

Do you have the X Files ROM?

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#1490 3 years ago

Do you mean legs protectors?

#1492 3 years ago

OK, just to make sure.... I got myself some of these:
ebay.com link » Pinball Cabinet Leg Protectors Original Fabric Design Dark Grey 1 Cent Ship

Guess it works better than metal or plastic....

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#1527 3 years ago

I proudly own a TZ and I'd say that the game is really awesome.

But.... I've got another pins in my line-up that I enjoy even more, and I constantly find myself playing them more often than my TZ.

Given that the TZ is the ultimate #1 machine of all time (Pinside and IPDB rankings), I was wondering if other clubbers experience that same feeling of mine, or is the TZ really the jewel of your (collection) crown?

#1534 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

And for those of you that to not frequent the main pin forum, here's a (rather short) video of the TZ's Magnet Toss (not just the 'catch'):
» YouTube video
(Info here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/present-for-those-curious-tz-magnet-toss)
I'm really really pleased- my TZ's just about finished with the restore.


#1547 3 years ago
Quoted from ita47:

I joined the club on Saturday. Its in very good condition. I'm planning to have the armor powder coated black, and I will eventually pull the playfield and clearcoat it. I have had one issue, it played great when I first got it home, but now the mini playfield only works occasionally. I'm not sure what happened, but it is intermittent. I have checked the plugs under the playfield but that didn't do it.


Is it me that is not seeing things straight but is your left flipper bat a little bigger/thicker than normal?

#1549 3 years ago
Quoted from ita47:

No, I think its just a weird angle with the camera.

Guess those yellow rubbers are not helping much....

#1555 3 years ago
Quoted from ita47:

The flipper rubbers are actually white, but they do look yellow in the pic.

Oh my.... I was just about to call my doctor to check if I needed a pair of glasses!!!!

#1576 3 years ago
Quoted from Pmaino:

No cliffy but it is compatable with cliffy's mini playfield piece.

Very nice, thanks for the tip!

#1580 3 years ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Anyone have the airliner mod on theirs. Looks awesome but 225 from the Tz mod site seems high

Is it the "Nightmare at 20000 Feet" diorama?

#1585 3 years ago
Quoted from someoneelse:

(Cars, Robots, Cameras, Slotmachines, Rockets, etc. etc.) is just junk that gets in the way of gameplay/view.
There's enough stuff crammed into TZ already, adding even more is overkill and makes it look cheap.

Couldn't agree more!

#1602 3 years ago

I also own a CftBL and wish I had this "holo" solution....

Anyway, talking about TZ mods, some people have plenty of money, some like to have lots of unnecessary toys in the PF, some don't care if they can view the ball or not.... I'm neither of those....

Same thing happens with TAF....

#1604 3 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

I've said many a time this is probably the best mod for TZ. If I only had 1 it would be that. Looks so much cleaner.


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#1643 3 years ago
Quoted from cheshirefilms:

Do what you wanna do...in living color



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#1650 3 years ago
Quoted from ramegoom:

OK I got the mod itch, so here's my first TZ mod. I'm using the coin-on-the-edge scene from A Penny For Your Thoughts. I have four coins that are applicable, so I hot-glued them to a metal plate. Here is the result:
I might add a Roosevelt dime to the bottom edge.
Comments, suggestions?

Show it installed!

#1676 3 years ago

Color DMD pre-vid:

PS: Loved, but I just think that the DOOR should be ALL WHITE!

#1681 3 years ago

Guys, what's this ramp about?!?!?!?!?!


#1684 3 years ago

Yeah.... that's exactly what I thought.... to quote the last post on that particular thread: "I like the looks, but this will obviously cause an uneeded delay in the ball return."


#1686 3 years ago
Quoted from cheshirefilms:

Hey guys- Im looking for the 4 gray TZ mini playfield covers. If you recently upgraded to the great lakes kit without these big switches, these should be leftover in your coin box. Even 2 would help- I have a lead on another two. I dont want to buy an untrimmed aftermarket set. Thanks in advance if you can help!!

I've got some NOS spare left here somewhere.... I'll PM you.

#1693 3 years ago

There is just one thing that I definitely didn't like: the door colors.... I'd rather have an all-white door....

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#1700 3 years ago

Arrived today.... New TZ Willie and Jerry toy/topper....


#1717 3 years ago

Since we're in TZ club I don't feel sorry for saying that woz is a sissy game, made for sissy people....

#1719 3 years ago

"Bad ass"???? oh my...


#1729 3 years ago
Quoted from wolfy:

I have WOZ and TZ and love both games. People that say WOZ is sissy never were a kid or can't appreciate monumental film history. They just need to buy Walking dead and Metallica and head bang to the awesome photogenic zombies. Those are reel manly titles. I do like these games actually but the themes will never make it in my game room.

Good for you.... woz will NEVER EVER make it in my game room. PERIOD.

PS: enough about woz talk, right? Get yourselves your own club and let us big boys be...


#1741 3 years ago
Quoted from dgoett:

Prototype/Sample sign. No, it's not for sale. It goes with my TZ when/if I ever sell it.


Sorry, but personally I just can't seen to understand the value of it, when the standard is so much better looking.... Just saying....

#1743 3 years ago
Quoted from dgoett:

I sold one in 2007 on ebay for $150. Some people want their TZ to look like it was originally intended with 3rd magnet, this sign, green lock, white clock face, white door on head, Gum-Ball flashers, etc. Mine has all that stuff. I agree the new gumball sign looks better and that's why it's on my high end, but it's there in case someone wants to change it out someday.

Yeah, the 3rd magnet is super cool!

#1756 3 years ago

Didn't like it either.... sorry!

#1761 3 years ago

Looks good!

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#1801 3 years ago
Quoted from Archytas:

Thanks for the advice, any link as to where I can get it from?

You can perform a search in this thread and you'll surely find everything you need to know!

#1812 3 years ago
Quoted from Luppin:

control of the ball in the mini-playfield with magnets is somehow random. anyway with experience you learn to shoot at the right time and the right distance and achieve pushing the ball upwards more consistently. also, the right-left position of the ball from the magnet have an impact on the direction in which the ball is shot by the magnet: obviously it's not like playing with normal flippers, its definitely much more random, but as said with experience you learn to increase the number of good, strong vertical shots towards the out on the top of the pyramid.

Yes! Not bragging myself (oh yeah, I am), but most of the time I'm successful!

#1827 3 years ago
Quoted from Alby87:

May I ask a photo of a TZ with cut out for stars? It's the first time I ever read about these, and I cannot find on google or ipdb.
Thank you

Curious too!

#1830 3 years ago

Hey very nice.. If I had bigger balls I'd try that on mine!!!!

#1836 3 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Getting out a sharp phillups head screwdriver tonight!

Quoting AC/DC: "... cause we've got the biggest, balls of them all"

#1840 3 years ago
Quoted from cheshirefilms:

It's way higher fidelity. But as such, a bit different. You can hear instruments, its not just computer synthesis. It takes all the DCS tracks Granner recorded and replaces the low res downconverted ones. The callouts, which weren't in DCS to begin with, were ported over from the original mix.

Can u post a video?

#1850 3 years ago

New TZ corner!


#1871 3 years ago

Follow the Power mini-pf "lightning" inserts order.

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#1902 3 years ago

Try again and go for Ingo's.... It's a no brainer!

#1925 3 years ago
Quoted from delt31:

A few questions:
my table also came with a black "eye" ball. Seems heavy like a pinball. Anyone use this?
how do you replace the bulbs in the mini playfield inserts?
What does the flashing light represent right next to the top right part of the mini playfield? It's right beside the mp - not in it. top right.

The black eye pinball is a mod.... I have a set on my EatPM and a "Spider" set on my SS....Once I saw a black "spiral" designed pinball for sale... Can't remember where....

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#1940 3 years ago
Quoted from Seatmandan:

Just recieved my TZ decals from PPS, and it has me a little concerned- Head decals look fine, but to me, on the main cabinet, the red on gumball machine looks faded, the orange on the clock looks "creamcicle" or peach rather than orange, and the yellow around the sun looks faded rather than bright yellow.
I included one photo that compares the yellow-orange-red in the door on the head (correct in my opinion) to the "faded" yellow-orange-red on the main cab decal.
EDIT: If I didn't know any better, I'd say the yellow on the printing of the main cab was jacked up- looks like there's not enough yellow

Don't know.... by the photos I guess it's ok!

#1941 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Question about those balls..
Do you guys actually play slow enough to SEE it? I mean... on my game - it wouldn't matter if the ball had the Declaration of Independence on it - it goes so fast that you'd never even *know*!

Well, during game-play all you can see is a black ball! But it looks really nice when you pause the ball on the flippers while planning the next move!

#1942 3 years ago
Quoted from delt31:

Saw this - looks very nice but that price!


#1943 3 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Before spending insane amounts of monies on a bunch of mods really think aboot what is the best bang for your buck. GLM Switch Kit has always been the best mod out there...because it doesn't look like a mod.

Sent several e-mails a few months ago to Tony from glm and never got any reply...

#1962 3 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Unless you learn drop catch it, dead bouncing to the left flipper or shooting straight for the left ramp are the usual ways to go.

Drop catch is so cool, but my slot vulk spits the ball at 100 mph, so it's f***ing hard to do it.... Lost so many balls attempting, but I'll never give up!

#1976 3 years ago

I liked it.... but can't tell how much it will block (or not) the ball view while in the mini-pf....

#1978 3 years ago

Just a quick shot here.... since Jan/16, I've been trying to contact tony clark from greatlakesmodular.... Sent him several e-mail msgs and had absolutely no response whatsoever.... tried both the e-mail address listed on glm's home-page and also "clark@greatlakesmodular.com"...

Anyway, I wonder if anyone had any issues contacting him and/or acquiring his TZ mini-pf switch kit, because I'm starting to think maybe it's personal...

#1981 3 years ago

So I wonder whats up then.... Can't trust a vendor like that...

#1983 3 years ago
Quoted from tdunbar:

Here is a picture of the new Just3dmods.com new pyramid mod with a long shot of it installed on the front of the mini power playfield for TZ. I have a video of with it as well and will show attach later. A another picture showing where to install it and how the bottom fits on that metal bracket.
Since the pyramid sits on that bracket in front of the mini playfield and tapers to the top it does not obstruct viewing the ball on the mini playfield as shown in the first picture.
So whatya think?
Here is a short video
» YouTube video

Guess I'm in for you first customer But I could not find shipping options to Brazil on your web-page

#1987 3 years ago
Quoted from tdunbar:

PM me with the address and I will found out the amount and give you a pinside 5 percent discount price of $45 plus shipping for helping out here then I will request a payment through paypal for you to accept . I currently have 16 so you won't have to wait for it to be made before shipping. Thanks
If you are not happy with the item you can return it before 30 days minus shipping cost and guarantee it for 30 as well with full or partial parts replacement.

PM sent

#1989 3 years ago
Quoted from Beebl:

Don't give up on those micro switches they are a great mod. I have bought many things from great lakes in the past positive every time, maybe he is on vacation or has an email issue that needs to be resolved.

I didn't give up yet, but my last shot was posting here to see if I could get any help from fellow pinsiders.... Hope anyone @ glm can reply me, if not by e-mail, post a note on this thread!

#1998 3 years ago
Quoted from Miguel351:

You might try getting a hold of Borygard here on Pinside. He used to bring a set or two with him to pinball shows. He might still have a set in stock that he could sell you.
I got my set off him.

Thanks! Will PM him right now!

#1999 3 years ago

Unfortunately the picture is not making any justice (damned cell camera), but I just installed an amazing new repro translite on my TZ!

Awesome quality from ArcadeOverlays! Highly recommended! Todd is a great guy to deal with!


#2001 3 years ago
Quoted from Archytas:

I literally did this last night (replaced some really dim LED's with bendy ones to light the inserts better). You can follow the manual but the easiest way I found to do it was the following:
1) Pull playfield up so it is resting on service rails.
2) Remove nut above playfield post on right, screw where the mini-playfield joins the ramp and there are 2 screws mounted to a metal plate on the lower left side above the pop bumpers (these are the worst 2, they are slightly underneath and in a bit of an awkward position). In total 4 things to remove.
3) Slide mini playfield forward - it should slide under the ramp and forward, if you are finding it is catching it is likely the wires from the lamp are behind the metal mounting bracket, move these round the bracket. As it slides forward feed the wires through the playfeld.
4) With the playfield out you should have enough slack with the wires to turn it sideways and get underneath, you will be greeted with a large cardboard protector mounted in place by 5 screws. Remove 2 of the screws that are close to the top which will allow you to bend the cardboard back enough to get to the lamps.
5) Replace lamps, there is also a flasher here so remember to do this as well.
6) Roughly mount playfield back in place, turn game on - test all lamps work, if they don't remove and adjust as required. (worst thing would be putting it all back and finding out 1 of them doesn't work!)
7) Remount into place. Enjoy new lamps!
The manual suggested unplugging the 4 connectors that attach to the mini-playfield but I found this wasn't necessary as I only had to get it out enough to replace the lamps and there was enough slack on the wires. If you do decide to do this MARK THEM - there are 2 with practically the same wiring and if you plug them in the wrong way round you will blow something up.

Nice, will follow these instructions to also install the mni-pf cliffy protectors I've been postponing for awhile!

#2009 3 years ago
Quoted from Miguel351:

Congratulations and welcome to the club! My first pin was also a TZ. Mine also had a bunch of issues and over the course of a number of months, I got them all worked out and fixed. Along the way I learned a LOT about fixing pinball machines as TZ shares a ton, mechanically and electrically, with a vast majority of modern games.
As for the tools you'll need…my main go to tool is a ratcheting screwdriver. Something like this(since I know you guys have Stanley over there):
Don't quite know which hardware stores you've got near you, but I'm sure they'd have something quite like this there. They aren't very expensive for the sets and you actually only end up using about a third of all the bits, but it's still worth getting. I also have a few extensions to go with mine as well. Makes life extremely easy for those hard to reach areas, and it keeps your hands free and clear of all the fiddly bits underneath the playfield when you're trying to unscrew things. You might have other brands there that are better quality, too. Nobody would fault you for buying a proper, high quality one of these. You want it to last.
That'll at least get you going in the right direction. There are very few bespoke tools for pinball machines. Outside of that screwdriver set and its bits, I'd say a standard 1/4" socket set(probably safe to go with deep sockets) and a few different types of pliers, and you'll be set! As you get deeper into certain projects, you may discover a need for some kind of special tool, but these should cover the majority of the basic stuff. When the time comes to fix something, do a search on the forum first. There are plenty of us that have had the same issues before and have worked them out on the forum, along with what the solutions were.
Your game should have 5 steel balls and one ceramic. There should be three in the gumball machine(one is somewhat hidden under the other two you can see).
Typically one credit is three balls, but some people do five balls and I've even played a game that was ten! But, the standard around here is three balls per credit.
Good luck to you on your pinball journey! TZ is the monster that, if you tame it, you'll be able to tame just about any other machine out there!

I play a 5-ball game, always buy the last extra-ball, and have 7 balls installed (6 + 1 powerball (4 into the gumball)).

#2044 3 years ago
Quoted from Neal_W:

I'm always in too much of a rush to get a pin home to remember to get pics of the trip.

Yeah, was thinking the same!

#2045 3 years ago

Does anyone have it installed? If so, can you share some pics?


#2054 3 years ago

I've always said.... Less is definitely more!

#2059 3 years ago
Quoted from MK6PIN:

They are....just ordered a set!!!!

Pics when installed, please!

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#2077 3 years ago

Haven't fully installed it yet because I ain't got the electronic skills (neither have the balls to try it myself), but here's a damn well built mod that I really liked and fits perfectly well (had to loosen the mini-PF switch brackets a bit, in order to fit the Pyramid in)... Hopefully I'll have it fully working in a couple of weeks... Thanks to Tim at just3Dmods.com!




#2079 3 years ago

Its size is perfect, doesn't obstruct anything at all... check the third pic that is closer to the players perspective! But I do think the giant switches are the truly villains here, and they'll be soon taken care of!

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#2111 3 years ago
Quoted from MK6PIN:

They are....just ordered a set!!!!

Have u installed it yet?

#2130 3 years ago
Quoted from No_Skill:

That's weird. Mine doesn't show up. The serial number on the playfield matches my cabinet and it has a date stamped on the front of the playfield that reads jun 01, 1993. I have to assume it's original. Could it have been cleaned off our maybe never even applied?

My PF was completely repainted, so I won't even waste my time here....

#2137 3 years ago
Quoted from Neal_W:

DOH. I didn't even notice! The name is probably trademarked.

Oh no.... look: http://www.pinball.center/en/shop/pinball-parts-by-game/twilight-zone/7244/hinge-pivot-set-twilight-zone-bally-/-williams?c=2819

Is it lighted? How?

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#2211 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

How in the hell is this even a mod? Or even related to the show?
ebay.com link

It relates to the translite...

#2215 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Sitting on a mint! Especially if it can be doubled as a mod for CC or MM, too.

The cannon would look good on a AC/DC.

#2236 3 years ago
Quoted from litz:

Yeah, this is a terminology thing ...
VUK = kicker that goes straight up
Kickout = scoop style kicker (slot machine, electric chair, etc)
Kickback = horizontal kicker (rocket kicker, laser kick on JP, etc)
Eject = saucer kicker (Merlin, Thing, etc)
Kickbacks are typically a horizontal plunger style kicker (like the guns on TNG), but can also be a lever action kicker, like the autoplunger and rocket kicker on TZ
Eject holes can either be small plunger style (like top saucer on SC), or a lever kicker (like a trough ball eject on older games)

Oh my.... how may times I messed it all up!

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#2273 3 years ago

Hey, does anyone know the exact measures of the clock decal? It will be truly appreciated!


#2285 3 years ago
Quoted from vilant:

Just so happens I have my clock apart. The sticker is 3-5/32" square. I leave it to you to convert to metric

8cm! Thanks!

#2288 3 years ago
Quoted from Cheese_WizardPQ:

Just added new Apron and starlight posts on mini playfield. Cool project!


#2297 3 years ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

I feel the great lakes switch kit is one of the nicest things i have done to clean up the playfield.

I'm not saying that you need, because i don't remember your machine, but better yet is to take the bunch of mods off....

#2300 3 years ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

OK whatever that means, but the only mods on mine are the Ingo clock board and the switch eliminator kit.

I got much more than that...

#2305 3 years ago
Quoted from litz:

That clock, in exactly that shape, still runs today (I bought the game), with no modifications.


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#2320 3 years ago
Quoted from Agent_Hero:

Why is this club not linked to the game being discussed, like all of the other clubs?

Someone took the link off and now it's not possible to add it back - gotta ask a moderator for help!

#2322 3 years ago
Quoted from Billy16:

Dude, because it's the Twilight Zone!

... you're entering another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound, but of the mind!

#2325 3 years ago
Quoted from nibre:

I have bought the special decorative balls for the TZ Gumball Machine. Which is the simplest way to put them in? They are too big to put in from the top. I don't feel like taking the Gumball Machine apart completely...

If you bought the correct ones, they're slightly bigger than the passage through, but you'll be ok! Just press! Or, do as I did.... Pray and press, then pray again!

#2330 3 years ago

Yep, my balls are secured from both sides and I expect to never ever have to remove them!

#2342 3 years ago


TZ and a Margarita served on a plastic cup...20160719_124443_(resized).jpg

I don't know if it's the alcohol effect but that's one of the best TZ episodes I've ever watched: S04E14

PS I: Never mind the portuguese captions!


PS II: Julie Newmar was stunningly beautiful!


#2344 3 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Yeah you seem like a plastic cup kind of guy

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#2351 3 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Truly an asset to the club

OT: that one came as a souvenir with my 2015 C36 AMG... Sorry 'bout that.


#2353 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Anyone hear from Ingo recently?

No, I haven't.... his board works flawlessly, so why should I?

Quoted from Coyote:

dead GI on my board

Hope it's an easy fix!

#2355 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Now they're all out - and it's something on the board, as when the game is first turned on, the LEDs come on and then immediately go out - like a strobe.

Hmmm... that surely sucks....

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#2361 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

To follow up, in case anyone was worried there was a problem with my board -
it was NOT the board, but a *very* oddly specific combination of issues.
In short, a pin was *just* loose enough on the inline Molex connector for the clock.
Why I couldn't track it down -
With the playfield raised - either all the way up or on its stands - gravity was causing the pin to make connection. So I'd disconnect the clock, measure voltage and get voltage! Then I'd drop the playfield, connect the clock, and wouldn't get any lights. It just so happened that in ALL of my testing, I never raised the playfield *with the clock connected*, so I never saw it light up when lifting the field.

Can I say "I told you so" about Ingo's board?

#2363 3 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Oh - and for folks going to York. I'm really stoked about the bottom two door-panel flashers. I got them installed last night, and it's really an amazing look - the flasher animations work with the light animations really well - almost like they were meant to be!(*) Be curious to see what others think.
(* - They were. In development, the center panels (Lock 1, 2, Bum, Ball) each had a flasher. Top two were connected to the Upper Left Ramp and Upper Right Ramp - when you buy a kit for the door flashers, this is where they are connected to. The *bottom* two, are connected to the Pop Bumper flasher and the Upper R Flipper flasher. if you get GLM's board, *it is wrong* - they just feed the bottom two off the top two.)

Post a video, man!

#2373 3 years ago
Quoted from swanng:

FYI, In case anyone is interested, I just listed my all original TZ for sale in the Marketplace. It comes with the trough eddy upgrade kit AND a spare OEM trough eddy board set, along with a few extras.

whats up with that avatar of yours? is that you?

#2382 3 years ago

WOW!!!! That one got the bad taste record. Undisputed!

#2400 3 years ago
Quoted from LOTR_breath:

Hey, I sold my TZ to raise money for a GOT Premium and six months later I'm still happy I did it.

Not cool, man, not cool!

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