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Twilight Zone Owner's club

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Post #5897 Updated 9.4H manual with corrections from Coyote Posted by Coyote (5 years ago)

Post #8716 Have your picture taken in the translight Posted by Neal_W (3 years ago)

Post #10381 Switching to stereo sound. Posted by hawknole (2 years ago)

Post #11803 How to Add 3rd Magnet. Posted by mbaumle (2 years ago)

Post #11810 Third Magnet Parts List Posted by mbaumle (2 years ago)

Post #13048 Board replacement options. Posted by DumbAss (1 year ago)

Post #14049 Flipper cabinet opto board data Posted by DumbAss (10 months ago)

Post #14166 More key board data Posted by DumbAss (9 months ago)


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#9998 3 years ago
Quoted from Jjsmooth:

Destroyed it last night. First time in the zone, since I got it.
Awesome machine
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Nice TZ! Nice score as well!

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#10750 2 years ago

If you have a good connection and the continuity test isn’t making a noise - jump the cable and see it this fixes it - the Purple cable could well be broken in the cable.

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#10987 2 years ago
Quoted from Purdue:

Hello, i was wondering if anybody has used pop bumper LED rings on their TZ?
I think they would look great but amplify the need for LED_OCD GI, which im already thinking i will need anyways?
https://www.cometpinball.com/products/pop-bumper-rings
Im planning out a full led swap (minus the flashers and blinkers in the backbox).
Comet sunlight frosted 2smd
LED-OCD GI and Inserts
pop bumper led rings
Am i missing anything here? We've got a first timer here

I have them
In several other games and will install them in TZ when they make an orange one…

#10991 2 years ago
Quoted from Purdue:

Oh man thanks for pointing that out... i was thinking they were all white and the color came from the pop caps.

Yeah - you have the choice - I have all white ones in my STTNG for example because I have purple caps and they aren't available.... The white ones are damn bright but you can dial them down with the resistor dial so that it looks good - but the coloured versions look better - the LED's merge more into the pop bumper visually - and its more subtle.
There are various suppliers and the company I use hasn't made an Orange version yet. My TZ is set up in Cool white so I am OK with the downlighters...

The only other game I have without is Whirlwind - When I add the Halo lights, I tend to go whole hog and swap out the entire pop bumper plastics with clear coloured pieces - and Whirlwind has 6 pop bumpers... this could be a little bit too much...

#10992 2 years ago

Here 2 examples: sttng with white leds the one on the left is at around 50%
Royal rumble with Red ones at full power I think.

The camera make all look way brighter than in reality…

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#10993 2 years ago

Oh - I forgot - here’s a quick view of the entire machine: nearly finished with the playfield work.. hallmark Romulan and Klingon ships are in my table now - awaiting resistors so I can finish soldering..

And I need to polish the top half of the play field… then it’s on to the boards to fix the 5v issue…

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#10995 2 years ago

Damn.. Now I look at it - also the target decals... The Borg ship is actually dark grey but looks pretty black here. hmm need to think about that. But it is cool because I find it disappears until the flashers go off

#10996 2 years ago

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Quoted from Purdue:

Thats awesome thank you so much for the detailed pics! Im gonna give Coyote's pinball life colored ones a shot. For TZ they up right up in your face, so i think it'll be better to go colored for sure after seeing your pics.

Yep - good choice. Just remember to adjust the brightness to your liking before you screw everything down!!

#10999 2 years ago
Quoted from Mikespinball:

I love the look of the EVO bright lights from Pinball Life. I have done them on all of my machine's. Color match the pop bumper caps to the color I install. Also like the down light "cool blue" lighting the pop bumpers bases. I use this same LED'S color "cool blue" throughout my GI's in the machine's along with some color LED'S. Not too much color GI's, but enough in my opinion that looks good.
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That is an awesome collection my friend!!! The caps look great.

#11009 2 years ago
Quoted from Mikespinball:

I also just recently picked up a William's IJ that had a GI-OCD in stalled. I don't like this added feature and removed it and would be willing to sell if someone is interested.

Quoted from Mikespinball:

I hear you. I have over 2k in mods on mine. It's just where do you stop?

I try very very hard here…. 2K mods is another pin - Being a tightass , I typically buy broken Pins and restore them - actually I am starting to enjoy the restoration almost as much as playing them - until I get an issue I can’t fix. (Royal Rumble took months and I love the game but hate that machine…)
I don’t try to make money, Breakeven is fine - For me - I get the have a machine for a few months at no cost and hopefully save another machine from scrap..

I have 5 pins, 3 are keepers and 2 on a kind of forced rotation - I have no more space so have to sell one if I want another or lose the Pool table and that isn’t hapenning.
Now. The keepers, If there is a mod, I am a sucker but try to be reasonable - If the cost to me is a fair price for the effort, I will buy a couple in a year - but lots of mods are so way over priced I ignore them..

TZ - the other love of my life.. I was lucky and got one in good shape. I have a color DMD (PIN2DMD), I changed the slot scoop for the re-inforced one and the stronger clock targets, new clock board. I added LED’s, Car mod and a custom topper... So far that’s it. But in a box I have a Robby the Robot and camera that I bought and added LED’s to myself and a led Matrix that I am going to put in the back Glas in the door that needs an arduino.. The game is crying out for a cleanup when I could add the mods but I am scared to touch it in case something stops working…

The volume on my machines is always low, so I haven’t bothered with any sound upgrades and I haven’t changed the glass.
Oh, the keepers are TZ, STTNG and Whirlwind. “FEEL THE POWER OF THE WIND” - all other games are DMD but man, Whirlwind is awesome. You feel like a GOD if you hit the upper ramp..

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#11115 2 years ago

Hi guys - I haven’t had to do any maintenance on my TX for over a year.. my remote battery cable came desoldered.. I have re soldered it and now my enter button is doing nothing. The other 3 buttons are working. Any ideas??

#11118 2 years ago
Quoted from Manny65:

I'd start off by reseating the switch connectors on the coin door interface board and MPU board. You could also use a DMM to do a connectivity test to verify the switch is working when pressing the button

Switch is fine - I will check on the MPU board by forcing the switch action on the connector directly today… I think some solder is shorting something.
Damn - serves me right for trying to fix something in situ rather than unmounting the board.

#11130 2 years ago
Quoted from Gingerbloke:

Hi guys - I haven’t had to do any maintenance on my TX for over a year.. my remote battery cable came desoldered.. I have re soldered it and now my enter button is doing nothing. The other 3 buttons are working. Any ideas??

Fixed - all my own dumb fault. Solder had leaked behind the board and shorted the chip below the battery point.

#11137 2 years ago

Hi All - big week this week for my TZ…5 projects to be completed as a small upgrade:
Pin sound
Home made Robby mod
Home made Camera mod
Upgraded switches on upper playfield..
And finally copying Duffy arcades idea I have a 256 LED light panel to go behind the door in the back panel.
I have the panel working - and I have gotten the colors down to 2 choices- will post a movie when all is installed…

#11139 2 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Please share Pics!

OK - choices choices - let have you opinions..

attached 2 movies - the new door mod with Bleuend white effect or with Rainbow effect.

let me know which one you guys like -the machine currently switches every 30 seconds..

Blue:

Colour

let me know what you think - it is brighter in real life...

And shout out to DuffysArcade for the idea!!

#11143 2 years ago
Quoted from tonyf1965:

I like the first one. Were do I get one?

Yeah me too the Blue goes with the scheme..

If you want one - its a "Homemade"... I can't do a how to but if you are OK with relatively simple electronics and computer work I can describe the process?
You will need:
An Arduino chip - I chose a nano and actually a 3rd party version, cost around €5 - if you are a beginner i recommend buying the real deal. its under $20
Then the LED panel, a power supply and some cables - you need t power the power supply and then just 3 cables from the Arduino to the LED panel - if you have repaired a pinball machine, this is easy.
A 5v power block - 256 LED's - I am not prepared to risk that with a 20 year old Williams 5v power supply

For the Arduino you need to program it from a computer. This required the Arduino software program and the PowerLED package - there are hundreds of how-to and you tube videos on how to do this - better than my explaining it to you..

If you want the exact light effect I have - PM me and I will send the mini file for you to program into the Arduino.

A small note - absolutely nothing happens until you have panel connected and the arduino programmed - if you run power to the panel - do not be discouraged and think it is dead when nothing happens - it only comes alive when the Arduino tells it to do something...

if you want to have a go - Pm me and I am happy to support - or post here and we we go through it together

Arduino chip - I chose a Nano - https://www.amazon.com/Arduino-A000005-ARDUINO-Nano/dp/B0097AU5OU/ref=sr_1_5

LED panel - I got it from Amazon, here a link to the 1st one in Amazon.com:
https://www.amazon.com/8x32-256-Individually-Addressable-Programmable/dp/B08T61FQKD/ref=sr_1_2_sspa

5v Power supply:
https://www.amazon.com/PHEVOS-Universal-Switching-Raspberry-Computer/dp/B074YHN8D1/ref=sr_1_7_sspa

#11144 2 years ago
Quoted from awesome1:TZ Multiball 4 Jackpots
Took a little work to get the third jackpot and then quickly the fourth... and then it was over.

Nice score- and a really nice table!

#11152 2 years ago
Quoted from Jason_Jehosaphat:

Let's see a photo or two of these, please.

Not finished yet… actually if any other experts can help - I self made the camera - it is currently just an LED… I want this to flash with the Camera flashing light - but Williams flash circuits are AC. Any advice on how I run the LED? Is there some kind of Mini rectifier or something?

#11154 2 years ago
Quoted from awesome1:

Modern pinball LEDs should work just fine.

Sorry - I think I need to be clearer. I have a customer made Clock mod - it cannot use a pinball LED. It has a 3.3v standard LED in it - with a resistor to get the right voltage. But it needs a DC voltage. The TZ lighting is AC.. Has anybody overcome this issue and could let me know the components they used?

#11156 2 years ago
Quoted from awesome1:

Have you tried it as is? I think it will still work, but probably dimmer since it's "off" half the time.
A bridge rectifier should work, but if you are tying it to a flasher, it won't be on long anyway, so a smaller resistor may get you what you are looking for in this case.

Yeah - I tried it. Dead.. I will double check to make sure it isn’t a cable or something…

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#11210 2 years ago

Hi guys - I have an interesting issue.....
I just replaced the miniplayfield switches.

All is great. But. When I amin switch test and test the lower right mini playfield switch. It registers as switch 26 - trough proximity...
Is that supposed to be switch 46?

I which case I guess I need to follow the cable for that row right?

#11242 2 years ago

Hi all - I am sorry. I promised details of the light matrix and forgot to post photos…
See some close-ups

Matrix in machine
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This is the Arduino behind the back box light board. It is attached with Velcro strips, same as the leds
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A close-up when I was testing- you only need to connect 5 cables to 3 terminals
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I added this 5v transformer rather than burdon the psu. The ac power I spliced into the power line running between the on-off switch and the transformer in the bottom of the cabinet.
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#11390 2 years ago

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This works. It's ugly but it works. I have seen these in machines that I have purchased and I immediately rip them out.
If you need or want help reach out. I am located in a neighboring city.

Ugly? I think that’s a matter of personal taste - this is a small silver box that is hidden either under the playfield or in the back box. So long as the cables are cleanly done it is almost invisible. Talk to any Data East owner with the humming loudspeaker problem - months of diagnostics and work to see no difference - or a $20 power supply feeding the sound board and silence.
Most machines are fitted with LED’s partly to reduce the stress on the power supply. Anybody with a few Mods has to balance the number vs. power issues or add a new supply.

We are talking about an almost 30 year old device with a power board that was working at its Limit from new.. I don’t think adding a modern power supply that outputs clean 12v and 5v power is ugly. I call it protecting. How many TZ’S now have LED’S, GI OCD, a color screen, a pinsound and new loudspeakers? A lot of that stuff isn’t pretty, and adds more cables and circuit boards. But they improve the game

Each to their own but - my answer is, add a new power supply - buy a dual 12v and 5v version - same day/next day delivery, takes an hour, is barely noticeable, reduces stress on old components - and it works.

Your power supply isn’t repaired - you are acknowledging that the 5v section is no longer able to deliver a sustained 5v due to old components and wearing out.

If a new power supply is concerning - check out the Pinsound no-more-reset solution. This doesn’t replace the old 5v supply - if it drops below 5v it “tops it up” from the 12v circuit. Yes - this puts a strain on the 12v board - but this is tenths of volts for very short periods of time - minimal strain in my opinion - again just an opinion but probably significantly less stress that a 12v Mod. If the 5v supply fails - the board stops working to protect the 12v supply.
I Don’t know how some of the other solutions work - if they disconnect the 5v and use the 12v for the entire load - I agree, this is not a long term solution.

I am not disagreeing with the previous comment - If you find it ugly - it’s ugly. I am just saying, that this is a personal opinion and in my opinion - the Pro’s outweigh the cons.

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