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Twilight Zone Owner's club


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#10251 21 days ago
Quoted from damadczar:

Well I took a chance on the classic arcades repro. Total crap. Just utter crap. The colors and sharpness on my original one were far superior, even with the damage and scratches. Anyway, after I send this back to him I'm going to go with the Netherlands reprint I guess. I mean, why isn't a TZ speaker panel quality reprint more commonly found? Seems like a missed opportunity for reprint people.
I mean, look at this?! EDIT: note there is no film covering the panel, just the transparent plastic. Also, if I gave you a close up shot you'd notice the obvious blurry/fuzziness of the printing, and not the sharp smooth lines of the original.
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Thank you for your honest review! Much appreciated. You have potentially saved your fellow pinsiders some hard earned money!

#10252 21 days ago
Quoted from damadczar:

Well I took a chance on the classic arcades repro. Total crap. Just utter crap. The colors and sharpness on my original one were far superior, even with the damage and scratches. Anyway, after I send this back to him I'm going to go with the Netherlands reprint I guess. I mean, why isn't a TZ speaker panel quality reprint more commonly found? Seems like a missed opportunity for reprint people.
I mean, look at this?! EDIT: note there is no film covering the panel, just the transparent plastic. Also, if I gave you a close up shot you'd notice the obvious blurry/fuzziness of the printing, and not the sharp smooth lines of the original.
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I guess I’ll try the other guy on eBay that has this plastic for sale.

Thanks for the picture.

#10253 21 days ago
Quoted from JohnTTwo:

I think I figured out my new problem. I purchased the casper electronics clock pc board part 103501 from Marco. The optos do not stick out as far as the original board.
Any advice on my next move?
Thanks in advance [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I had and fixed this issue. See post 10157

#10254 21 days ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

I had and fixed this issue. See post 10157

Brilliant and way better then my black tape on the back of the minute hand. I will be doing your conversion.

I find it off the new one's are shorter then the originals. Is it typical in the pin world for remakes to be so different.

I gotta step up and learn the search function better

#10255 21 days ago
Quoted from JohnTTwo:

Brilliant and way better then my black tape on the back of the minute hand. I will be doing your conversion.
I find it off the new one's are shorter then the originals. Is it typical in the pin world for remakes to be so different.
I gotta step up and learn the search function better

I tried the same thing first, and then a tiny piece of a playing card thinking it would be more rigid. It lasted about ten games and fell off. This has held up for a few hundred games now and I really can't see it failing, there is no real stress caused by it
I hadn't realized the optos were at a different spacing. I just figured my game had extra play in the gears, but I guess it's a good thing the play is there to allow this adjustment.

#10256 21 days ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

I tried the same thing first, and then a tiny piece of a playing card thinking it would be more rigid. It lasted about ten games and fell off. This has held up for a few hundred games now and I really can't see it failing, there is no real stress caused by it
I hadn't realized the optos were at a different spacing. I just figured my game had extra play in the gears, but I guess it's a good thing the play is there to allow this adjustment.

Damn, yzfguy you should be getting paid royalties for this fix by now! As someone that's greatly benefited from this mod, I can 100% vouch for its validity! The post he used is by far the best fix I've found as well; however, I will tell you it took me 2 different tries to get it right and not mess up the clear plastic cover by accidentally smearing the glue. It dries really quick and I couldn't remove the excess glue, which resulted in a rather distracting mess. Thankfully the covers are only $5 and the posts are only a few cents, so I ordered a few expecting I'd fuck it up! Just take your time and I'm sure you'll be happy with the end result!

#10257 20 days ago
Quoted from JohnTTwo:

I think I figured out my new problem. I purchased the casper electronics clock pc board part 103501 from Marco. The optos do not stick out as far as the original board.
Any advice on my next move?
Thanks in advance [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I think I am having the same problem. I recently installed the new casper clock board, and a new minute hand too and sometimes the top opto fails to be detected and the clock stops. If this keeps happening, I am going to try and add small a small heat sink to the minute hand to extend the arm so it passes over the opto consistently.

What is the measurement of your opto from the board to the top of the opto?

#10258 20 days ago
Quoted from Mickpat:

I think I am having the same problem. I recently installed the new casper clock board, and a new minute hand too and sometimes the top opto fails to be detected and the clock stops. If this keeps happening, I am going to try and add small a small heat sink to the minute hand to extend the arm so it passes over the opto consistently.
What is the measurement of your opto from the board to the top of the opto?

Heat shrink, tape and cardboard all failed for me. They eventually rub on the opto bracket and break off or jam.

#10259 20 days ago

Yzfguy: attach a pic of the post YOU used on this.
After i fitted my clock with a standard playfield post i realized you used a post like the ones above the slot machine.

#10260 20 days ago

I do not like to speak badly of anyone.
My warning of Classic Arcades is based on my High Speed restoration.
CA sells "Hot Stamped" pop bumper covers for HS. They are not hot stamped, simply printed.

Attached is a photo of HS slings i bought from him at Allentown. I found the color difference unacceptable.
If there were absolutely no other options, his stuff is fantastic.

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#10261 20 days ago
Quoted from PinballAir:

Yzfguy: attach a pic of the post YOU used on this.
After i fitted my clock with a standard playfield post i realized you used a post like the ones above the slot machine.

I used one of these tiny posts. I had a clear one like this one (seen next to the raptor pit on JP). I cut the tip of the pointed part (above the small rubber in this pic) off with a pair of snips. And glued the flat part on the plastic, so that only the point is touching the center pin of the clock where the hands are attached.

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#10262 17 days ago

Everyone has different experiences. The upvote & downvote button is there for just that reason. It's not a "Bible" LOL. Reproduction translites and speaker panels are just what they are- imitations of the original, therefore they will never be the original. To expect that they would be is setting the bar too high, and setting yourself up for disappointment. IMO. If it's really that important to be exactly like the original, then hold out for an original to pop up somewhere.

#10263 17 days ago
Quoted from Seatmandan:

Everyone has different experiences. The upvote & downvote button is there for just that reason. It's not a "Bible" LOL. Reproduction translites and speaker panels are just what they are- imitations of the original, therefore they will never be the original. To expect that they would be is setting the bar too high, and setting yourself up for disappointment. IMO. If it's really that important to be exactly like the original, then hold out for an original to pop up somewhere.

Normally what you say is true but when vendors flat out lie like Classic Arcades they need to be called out. This photo was taken from thier current TZ speaker panel listing.

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#10264 16 days ago

Looking through the club, saw that someone used some star post lights on the mini playfield. I decided to go a bit further.

Lit up all the main star posts, all to GI. For the upper pf, I used glow in the dark star posts and wired the post lights to the Battle the Power insert. I thought the glow in the dark posts would stand out more, but not really.

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#10265 16 days ago
Quoted from Stebel:

Looking through the club, saw that someone used some star post lights on the mini playfield. I decided to go a bit further.
Lit up all the main star posts, all to GI. For the upper pf, I used glow in the dark star posts and wired the post lights to the Battle the Power insert. I thought the glow in the dark posts would stand out more, but not really.
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Looks good

#10266 16 days ago

I like reading about owners fixing their clocks. I have seen other threads where people say their clock is broken and they have no intent to fix. Many times people state it’s a useless “toy” that’s why they don’t waste time fixing it. SMH....

#10267 15 days ago

Speaking of clocks, I no longer see an add in the marketplace for Ingo's clock boards. Has he stopped producing them? I know he has become non-responsive lately but I wonder if it is over for those clock boards.

If anyone has an extra they may be willing to sell please ping me.

#10268 15 days ago
Quoted from THJM:

Speaking of clocks, I no longer see an add in the marketplace for Ingo's clock boards. Has he stopped producing them? I know he has become non-responsive lately but I wonder if it is over for those clock boards.
If anyone has an extra they may be willing to sell please ping me.

I reached out multiple times to no avail. By all accounts that I've heard, he is in fact done but without speaking to the man himself it's all hearsay at this point.

#10269 15 days ago
Quoted from atg1469:

I reached out multiple times to no avail. By all accounts that I've heard, he is in fact done but without speaking to the man himself it's all hearsay at this point.

Glad I got his board while I could. But it also sounds like there are viable alternatives out there. Maybe that's why he's not selling them anymore, the market is saturated and he already catered to a lot of the collectors.

#10270 15 days ago
Quoted from PinJim:

Glad I got his board while I could. But it also sounds like there are viable alternatives out there. Maybe that's why he's not selling them anymore, the market is saturated and he already catered to a lot of the collectors.

In terms of viable alternatives, which ones work with the LED OCD GI board? Did people get the Gameroom board (available from Marco) to work with it?

#10271 14 days ago
Quoted from THJM:

In terms of viable alternatives, which ones work with the LED OCD GI board? Did people get the Gameroom board (available from Marco) to work with it?

It will work, but you'll need to swap the GI pins in one of the clock connectors.

#10272 14 days ago
Quoted from Coyote:

It will work, but you'll need to swap the GI pins in one of the clock connectors.

Thanks. Are there specific instructions for that anywhere?

#10273 14 days ago

Not very fancy , but the Casper Electronics board works well.
You may have the use the yzfguy mod.

#10274 14 days ago

I just turned on my TZ and got an error message. It says I should check the EOS (End of travel switch?) on 3 of the four flippers (LL, LR, UR). However, when I play everything seems just fine. Seems unlikely all three broke overnight, anyone know what might be causing this?

#10275 14 days ago

Found the problem, a wire came loose on the upper left flipper which was connected to the rest of the flipper switches.

#10276 13 days ago

So I need a little help / advice on this.

There were a couple added lights that didn’t work when I got the game, one led strip in the back corner and a single spotlight hangin loose under the gum ball. They were separately tapped into two GI bulb sockets with weak or broken solder joints. I pulled those wires off the bulbs, spliced them together into alligator clips to test them, remounted the spotlight where I wanted it, and had them on a GI bulb in the back left corner.

After that point, the game would reboot on occasion when I shot the right ramp and activated the diverter, or the lock shot pop-out, or the piano shot.

Figuring I had caused a voltage issue, I took off the alligator clip and the reboots seem to have stopped.

So I am trying to find a way to hook those lights up without causing issues......this TZ has this speaker wire spliced into the back box for power to a led strip under the mini play field. The led lights up immediately when I turn the game on and is powered outside of the normal GI connections. Anyone recognize this or know what I am looking at here? I am tempted to tap this power to run the other lights, but don’t want to cause any major issues with any back box boards or components.

What I know about this machine is someone in the Minneapolis area did most of the mods / upgrades and then it was with a couple different owners in Chicago before finding me.

Thanks in advance!

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#10277 12 days ago
Quoted from killerrobots:

I just turned on my TZ and got an error message. It says I should check the EOS (End of travel switch?) on 3 of the four flippers (LL, LR, UR). However, when I play everything seems just fine. Seems unlikely all three broke overnight, anyone know what might be causing this?

For future reference, Flippers would still work fine, but coils would be at full power when cradling the ball which could cause heat issues (never had it happen but they are there for a reason!). EOS just tells the coil to go to less power.

#10278 11 days ago

Hi Guys,
I would like to brighten up the back of the TZ play field and also add a decal to the back board and maybe the sides. Can someone advise me on what kind of lighting to use and what kind of decals to get please.

Thanks
Litz

#10279 11 days ago
Quoted from LitzDoc:

Hi Guys,
I would like to brighten up the back of the TZ play field and also add a decal to the back board and maybe the sides. Can someone advise me on what kind of lighting to use and what kind of decals to get please.
Thanks
Litz

I just added a set of pingraffix pinblades to my POTC and while it wasn’t easy with the PF in the material is VERY robust and forgiving and I got a good result.

Gotta admit tho I don’t love the styling of their TZ ones. They’re okay I guess.

#10280 11 days ago
Quoted from LitzDoc:

Hi Guys,
I would like to brighten up the back of the TZ play field and also add a decal to the back board and maybe the sides. Can someone advise me on what kind of lighting to use and what kind of decals to get please.
Thanks
Litz

Mine already had this decal. I just added an 8 inch white led strip under the glass channel.

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#10281 10 days ago
Quoted from LitzDoc:

Hi Guys,
I would like to brighten up the back of the TZ play field and also add a decal to the back board and maybe the sides. Can someone advise me on what kind of lighting to use and what kind of decals to get please.
Thanks
Litz

It’s not for everyone but I love the look of the full spiral treatment!

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#10282 10 days ago
Quoted from LitzDoc:

Hi Guys,
I would like to brighten up the back of the TZ play field and also add a decal to the back board and maybe the sides. Can someone advise me on what kind of lighting to use and what kind of decals to get please.
Thanks
Litz

Spiral decal with dual color (red and blue) backboard. It as washed out as the pic suggests.

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#10283 10 days ago
Quoted from Lermods:

Spiral decal with dual color (red and blue) backboard. It as washed out as the pic suggests.[quoted image]

This looks great. Love the 2 colored back board.

#10284 10 days ago

Or get the interactive blackboard.


By 86 pixels

#10285 9 days ago
Quoted from RobbyIRL5:

For future reference, Flippers would still work fine, but coils would be at full power when cradling the ball which could cause heat issues (never had it happen but they are there for a reason!). EOS just tells the coil to go to less power.

Shouldn't the Fliptronics board automatically switch from power to hold after some seconds? It's not ideal, but still a failsafe measure.

#10286 9 days ago
Quoted from Alby87:

Shouldn't the Fliptronics board automatically switch from power to hold after some seconds? It's not ideal, but still a failsafe measure.

Guess it was more about keeping the cost down and that they were only designed to have a life of 3-5 years so the EOS switch was simple and effective

#10287 9 days ago
Quoted from Alby87:

Shouldn't the Fliptronics board automatically switch from power to hold after some seconds? It's not ideal, but still a failsafe measure.

Yes. If the Fliptronic board (actually, game ROM) does not see the EOS switch close, it will cut high-power, leaving hold coil energized. The EOS switch is more used for flipper knock-downs. EOS reopens, reenable the Power Coil. If no EOS switch, the flipper bat will fall.

#10288 9 days ago
Quoted from RobbyIRL5:

For future reference, Flippers would still work fine, but coils would be at full power when cradling the ball which could cause heat issues (never had it happen but they are there for a reason!). EOS just tells the coil to go to less power.

Thanks, I did know this but thought it was weird all three "broke" overnight. I didn't realize they were wired in series which made sense when I found the broken wire on the first flipper.

#10289 9 days ago
Quoted from Akitostarwind:

Or get the interactive blackboard.
By 86 pixels

That looks great, but it begs the question why you still have a TV mod blocking the view of a significant portion of it?

#10290 9 days ago
Quoted from Durzel:

That looks great, but it begs the question why you still have a TV mod blocking the view of a significant portion of it?

I’d get rid of the TV and the plane. Put that display on full reveal.

#10291 8 days ago

Wow. That's an incredible interactive back board. Do you need a separate power supply?

#10292 8 days ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Yes. If the Fliptronic board (actually, game ROM) does not see the EOS switch close, it will cut high-power, leaving hold coil energized. The EOS switch is more used for flipper knock-downs. EOS reopens, reenable the Power Coil. If no EOS switch, the flipper bat will fall.

Good to know, still learning

#10293 8 days ago

I am planning to get an Eight Ball Deluxe and Twilight Zone when I find the right excellent highly restored HEP or HEP like machine. It has been 15 years since I last added machines. I am looking forward to being a member of the club. I am trying to educate myself to see what I would want, and 206 pages of information on this 1 thread alone will take some time. When i purchased my other machines (mostly wedgeheads), it was just all about the backglass, cabinet, playfield, and mechanical condition. I never opted for the polished chrome so far, but I think it would look nice on my Funhouse.

I think what I will want is those same things, and as for any mods, invisiglass (or a different brand) to help see the ball, and any lighting changes that will make it easy for me to see the ball. I find all of these other mods interesting. It is new to me. I worry that if there are too many things on the playfield like TVs etc., it will be a distraction when playing, but I may be wrong. Sound enhancement would be nice. I do like Golden Earring. Anyhow, thank you all for the information.

#10294 8 days ago

I too went for the dual Red and blue LED strips on the backboard
I have also installed mirror blades and the spiral decal on the BB

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#10295 7 days ago
Quoted from Matrixnetuk:

I too went for the dual Red and blue LED strips on the backboard
I have also installed mirror blades and the spiral decal on the BB[quoted image]

That looks beautiful. I think that's what I will do. Was it easy to connect? I assume you just use an alligator clip to the general illumination for the lighting. Stupid question but how do you know which wires are the GI ones? Thanks very much.

#10296 7 days ago
Quoted from LitzDoc:

That looks beautiful. I think that's what I will do. Was it easy to connect? I assume you just use an alligator clip to the general illumination for the lighting. Stupid question but how do you know which wires are the GI ones? Thanks very much.

GI is an abbreviation for general illumination. So look for the wires that are attached to the bulbs that generally illuminate the game. No flashers or blinking lights. Like the bulbs under the plastics for instance. Hope that helps

#10297 7 days ago

One of my magnets in the Power Playfield seems weak but is functioning. Before I just go ahead and replace it I was wondering if anyone had any experience or advice on this. Seems odd to me that an electromagnetic would be weak, seems like it would either work or not.

#10298 6 days ago

It helped in my case. Both of my magnet coils got weaker as time went on, to the point where the fuse on the power driver board would blow whenever my "Battle the Power" lasted the full duration. I order two new magnet coils from Marco about a year ago, replaced them and all is good now.

#10299 6 days ago

Okay thanks, I will try that.

#10300 6 days ago
Quoted from Green-Machine:

GI is an abbreviation for general illumination. So look for the wires that are attached to the bulbs that generally illuminate the game. No flashers or blinking lights. Like the bulbs under the plastics for instance. Hope that helps

Thanks that helps a lot.

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