If it looks good, and the mirroring looks legit, then I honestly can't see a problem.

That ramp is impossible to make with the arrow shot, didn't they test it? The whole game should go dark when the arrow is activated and maybe a light or laser used for aiming, much cooler.

That would be like STTNG cannon shot. Awesome. Crossbow has a laser scope on it.

So if we're all good with this new translate/BG thing... my question is does it have to be glued/stuck to the glass. If it does that's fine. But if this is basically a fancy translight and it can be 'loose' like a normal translate, having it 'permanently' stuck to the glass is IMO undesireable as it could then be easily swapped for a replacement or alternate translight if desired, with the LE one potentially framed or sold if desired. There are a few pro translights that I feel are better than LE BG's in the past that would be neat to swap in without having to babysit a whole chunk of LE glass.

It also smells of a 'coverup' a little bit if it doesn't have to be glued to the glass but that's an argument I'm willing to let slide for now

I hope I'm not coming across as a basher, my concerns are strictly cosmetic as I was hoping for Met Pre style lighting but that could be just early code as I bought my Met Pre well after a year that it was released and I think we are all a little disappointed with the BG zombie not being lit up. I will say this that in the 60 plus pins I've had come in out of my home this has the most unique gameplay I've experienced, its very strange but not in a bad way. I'm aware of the honeymoon phase but its not the case here, more of a euphoria and amazement that this is actually happening, Riot mode...... the animations that go along with it are extreme in a good way, I just haven't experienced this in pinball yet and it makes me tingly in my no no place. There is the factor also that its just going to get better with code updates and mods, I don't know what to say. I had a super game just now, first one 162 000 000 and starting to get it. Sometimes the magnets seem to work better at throwing the ball around wish it was like that all the time, with Predator and Aliens on the horizon I just couldn't be happier that I'm finally getting themes that I believe are best for pinball, Sci Fi and Horror. Happy Time

x 100

And the "unique gameplay" is what I'm looking forward to. I think Borg has a huge winner here.

Mine is stuck in Ohio! You guys are killing me!!

First thing I'm gonna do is repaint the well Walker.

Dunno. Been sitting there since 1:29 am yesterday.

Drivers unboxed it and are playing it right now Rick!

I haven't had a problem getting up either ramp from the crossbow... Other than my aiming, of course.

(On IndyPin's #85)

This is very well put, especially the part where you state "the most unique gameplay I have experienced". That's exactly how I feel about my pro, very unique and incredibly addicting. I was just telling my wife how everyone on here talks about that "just one more game" feeling and how I've never had that with a game.......ever. This is truly the first time I have felt that.

Borg is truly a total hit or miss it seems. Glad you guys are digging it ( well, the vast majority anyways!).

Got 85, but the best part is it's birthday is on Halloween!

Well I'm speaking without any knowledge of how this really works, so it's hard to truly respond, but I do have a few thoughts on that.

One, glass is cheap. So if you want to pull it and put in a different translite it's really no big deal to get some new glass. I don't see it as Stern's job to make things easy to swap. And that's speaking as someone who's obviously very much in favor of translite swapping.

But more than that, for me it's really a "what's the difference?" question. If if looks good, then who cares how they did it? You got a great looking backglass with mirroring, right? If it's a fused layer or screened on the glass what's the big deal either way? If the fused layer really does offer better color and sharpness, then hey, win.

Translites usually have a little ripple and wave to them. I see it when the light is right. It's not a big deal, but fused to the glass will avoid that, for a cleaner looks. Works for me.

I just don't see this as being a trick or a rip off so long as people like the way the end result looks.

Mine is going to be here in a few hours and will check in with the number.

Probably a few hundred dollars of cash in Stern's pocket

Mine should be here wen.

Your collection says it already arrived : )

Mine is currently out for delivery. According to tracking, I am the second stop.

Yeah.... so... welcome to the first year where you DIDN'T own Metallica..

....161... in Italy

#293 is in the house (well technically it's in my garage) ...

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In...

LE 514 is home.

Initial impression only after unpacking;
The art on the LE really is very cool. For my personal taste though, Stern's armor (or Pinball Refinery's) can't get released soon enough. The press shots from the flyer made it appear as though the armor was a metallic rust red. In person (to me) it looks like brown with tiny bits of black. Not my cup of tea at all.

I also prefer the Metallica backbox latch system to having to install bolts. I don't often put the backbox down, so it's a bit nitpicky, but just giving my thoughts right out of the box.

The Pro's art/armor would have gone perfectly in my basement as everything is black and red (to the point of color matched M&Ms and gumballs), but aside from the armor I fell in love with the art on the LE and after having played Met Premium I couldn't imagine having a game without all the features.

Worth the extra money over the Pro? To me yes, even factoring in having to buy new armor, adding the fish tank topper etc. Now time to go down and finish setting it up and start playing.

None of the new games use the old latching system. It appears that Stern has completely shifted to the new system ever since they redesigned the backbox.

#72 in Rockwall, TX

TWD LE #72

Marcus

Oh and now that I've pulled the backglass to install the Pinnovators SAM sub kit, I can say that the process may not be the same as BIBLE's but it's really great looking. I've never seen a BIBLE in person so I can't say whether it looks as good, but it definitely looks far better than any regular translite I've seen.

Oh and if anyone near Frederick, MD (21710) is on the fence about ordering one, feel free to PM me and stop by one day later this week and check it out. I'm working from home from Wednesday on so just about any time works.

I'm a horror fiend, so I already love it and I'm a terrible player, so I'm most likely to enjoy the game play regardless so to me the game's a winner already and will no doubt only get better with Pinball Refinery add ons and code updates. So if you're local come by and give it a more unbiased assessment. lol

Congrats Gweem and Xerico, get to playing it so we can live vicariously through you guys! Should have mine next week.

Bout the shape of a fork too. Hopefully nothing was damaged.

It looked fine on initial viewing. The foam was still in place.

I will know once I get home.

Marcus

Ok, since I'm not allowed to even power it up yet (wife wants 1st game).

Everything on this game looks great, minus of course my personal preference about the armor (I get what Stern was going for there), but the one glaring thing that stands out as I've been standing there staring at it (since I can't play it yet), is that the apron looks like cheap junk. I've heard people complain about the plastic apron and I didn't have any experience with one before. but it looks out of place and considering the cost this is probably my only real complaint. Everything else is subjective, but find me one person who actually likes the apron and I'll be astounded.

Add a Pinball Refinery apron to the list of mods that I must have. Pretty sure when all is said and done this ends up close to 10k.

#325 Arrived today!
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#32 in Yelverton,Ontario.

Mine should arrive in the next 2 days, Cointaker sending mirror Blades as well as softer white LEDs.
BR will do video. Can't wait !

It looked like it would be happy up there for the time being

You may not like the appearance, but they play better. Way more Lazarus balls than a metal apron. Lazarus balls are legal in competition, bang backs (much easier to do with a metal apron) aren't. They're also fun, even if you're playing alone. So the 'upgrade' in this case slightly downgrades the fun factor. Who doesn't love a Lazarus ball?

Is the apron going to fit with the cross bow