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TWD LE owners class action complaint


By ozno

5 years ago



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#1 5 years ago

Post here if you bought a TWD LE and agree that the optional blood spattered armour should have been included with the LE. The blood spattered armour is a simple cosmetic improvement that should have been part of the LE. If the only difference between the LE and Premium is the art, then Stern just stole $1100 from each LE owner. We demand that Stern send all LE owners the armour free of charge.

#2 5 years ago

my ac/dc pro came without the swinging bell, they made the VE version with a swinging bell, i protest, i demande that stern send me a free swinging bell.

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#3 5 years ago

My 65 mustang doesn't have anti lock brakes...Ford owes me ABS!

Good luck...your gonna need it...

#4 5 years ago

I fully agree it should have been included. We have no grounds for any sort of formal action that I could think of, but we are all free to vote with our wallets next release and buy JJP or Spooky.

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#5 5 years ago

$1100 for nothing. feels good to get robbed.

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#6 5 years ago
Quoted from ozno:

$1100 for nothing. feels good to get robbed.

Do you mean robed?

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#7 5 years ago

I want Stern to send me a Fish tank Topper , 2 Spinner assembly's and we'll call it Even .. , otherwize I'm Happy w/ the Pro . Still a Fun Pin , Just Wish'd I knew the Premium Would've been available N the future !!

#8 5 years ago

No more LEs for me since MoPLE. All they do is oversaturate the LE Market now and then come out with a premium which they promised would never be made. I love new sterns but loath some of their business practices of recent days. It put a end to my LE preorder days. SORRY STERN

#9 5 years ago
Quoted from ozno:

$1100 for nothing. feels good to get robbed.

Just because we as a group are gullible doesn't mean we are saps.
The next time the hype train pulls into the station just don't get on it.

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#10 5 years ago

I sympathize for those who feel they got the shaft, but let's be honest, LE owners still have the coolest TWD pin on the block. No Premium version can take that away. As a Pro owner, I'm jealous of you LE owners. You've got the version that everyone else wants.

In summary, this thread is sillier than a clown's dick, but to keep with the fun: had I known a Premium was going to be made, I would have bought one (not true... I had to scrounge and commit unspeakable acts just to come up with the coin for the Pro). As compensation, I want one of those Fish Tank translites for free for my Pro so that it matches the topper that I just dropped $400 on last week.

#11 5 years ago

Parts are another ripoff, I looked at a new set of stainless water pump plates and OPGI wanted 81 bucks for them, Ames had the same set for 49.
There are several parts suppliers so there is competition, Stern and B/W are both monopolies so you get bent over.
A couple hundred bucks for 7-10 pieces of plastic, I can do a disc brake conversion for the price of a couple sets of plastic.
GREEEEEED.

#12 5 years ago
Quoted from 30FathomDave:

I sympathize for those who feel they got the shaft, but let's be honest, LE owners still have the coolest TWD pin on the block. No Premium version can take that away. As a Pro owner, I'm jealous of you LE owners. You've got the version that everyone else wants.

Still, it is a bit of pain to shell all that money to see Stern release the really cool stuff to try and milk us up to 10 grand for a full LE machine. Some of these things (the armor especially) should have been standard in the LE. Meh, I'm still happy with my machine, but it does sting a bit to see those beautiful new add-ons knowing mine won't ever have that.

#13 5 years ago
Quoted from hoby1:

No more LEs for me since MoPLE. All they do is oversaturate the LE Market now and then come out with a premium which they promised would never be made. I love new sterns but loath some of their business practices of recent days. It put a end to my LE preorder days. SORRY STERN

Where & when did they promise it would never be made?

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#14 5 years ago
Quoted from ozno:

Post here if you bought a TWD LE and agree that the optional blood spattered armour should have been included with the LE. The blood spattered armour is a simple cosmetic improvement that should have been part of the LE. If the only difference between the LE and Premium is the art, then Stern just stole $1100 from each LE owner. We demand that Stern send all LE owners the armour free of charge.

Good god man, are you even slightly serious? Didn't you have a chance to back out after you saw the features matrix? Nowhere there did it say the blood splattered armor was included. Looking at your collection is proof of what I have been stating on here all day, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!
You seem to buy almost every LE that comes down the pike, how many of those were preordered? As long as Stern has suckers to buy their product sight unseen, what's the incentive to man up?

If there is a Star Wars pin down the road, I will have my first preorder in place and will not bitch about a thing. I know the risk, maybe the machine will be missing a shit ton of things that will be offered at a later date, shame on me for not looking before I leap. However, I won't be found on Pinside whining about how I got ripped off. Everyone complaining about the accessories, code, premium, take it as a lesson learned.......caveat emptor.

#15 5 years ago
Quoted from hoby1:

No more LEs for me since MoPLE. All they do is oversaturate the LE Market now and then come out with a premium which they promised would never be made. I love new sterns but loath some of their business practices of recent days. It put a end to my LE preorder days. SORRY STERN

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#16 5 years ago

boo firkin hoo, first world problems. enjoy your game Dudes, it is just pinball and is meant to be FUN!
sorry

#17 5 years ago
Quoted from oldskool1969:

boo firkin hoo, first world problems. enjoy your game Dudes, it is just pinball and is meant to be FUN!
sorry

Stop making sense. Can't you see that has no place here!!

#18 5 years ago

+2...I was offered a NIB TWDLE for $6800 and passed at that price. Pre-release buying and hoping for another Tron LE or BIBLE ain't gonna happen ...IMHO

Pre-release buying is goofy. Would You buy a car You didn't test drive first???

#19 5 years ago
Quoted from sepins:

Would You buy a car You didn't test drive first???

If it was a challenger Hellcat and I had the money, YES!!!!!!

#20 5 years ago
Quoted from sepins:

I was offered a NIB TWDLE for $6800 and passed at that price.

WOW !!!!! + $ 250 for ship'n

#21 5 years ago

I think Stern owes me something. Hang on while I come up with a list....

#22 5 years ago

Hahahahaha!

"Your Honour, we're suing Stern because they duped us!"
Judge: "they didn't deliver, as promised?"
"No. We got the game as described."
Judge: "dismissed!"

#24 5 years ago
Quoted from dgoett:

If it was a challenger Hellcat and I had the money, YES!!!!!!

OK...I pre-bought my 1964 Anniversary Mustang but if I don't like it I can sell it for more! Will do the same for GT350.

But every day cars...You know the drill.

Was offered the $6800 price about 3 weeks ago. There are still quite a few TWD LE's out there for sale and may be a lot more right now for the $1100 difference!

Problem for me and TWD is wife. I watch show and like it and she thinks it's disgusting. Have grandkids that come over and she doesn't want one in gameroom.. Was same issue with Stern Playboy. Wanted to get rid of my NIB BIBLE and get a Luci and wife didn't want Luci in house.

Sold my NIB MOPLE because of this. Just this week convinced her Metallica game not bad other than Sparky taking some juice...LOL Hoping to get a MOPLE now.

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#25 5 years ago

WOW....this is my first year at Pinside...and this certainly is not a generalization of everyone here....but what a bunch of whining brats. They are a fucking business. If you don't like it, shop somewhere else. They don't owe anyone shit. You know how you communicate to them??? With your $$$$. Wait for the smoke to clear next time before jumping in if it's such a problem. This nerdy victim mentality is a joke. I own an LE. LOVE it. Stern should do what is in their best interest....and if it doesn't align with consumers they go out of business. I personally am glad they are around.

#26 5 years ago
Quoted from ozno:

$1100 for nothing. feels good to get robbed.

You also got a plaque a signature colored legs and full lolly pop style side aromor and get to be a guiney pig for running improvements for later buyers.

#27 5 years ago

You got a game, want to be mad try paying Jpop and Skit-B for years with no game and then you can have a reason to bitch.

#28 5 years ago
Quoted from Nikonokin:

WOW....this is my first year at Pinside...and this certainly is not a generalization of everyone here....but what a bunch of whining brats. They are a fucking business. If you don't like it, shop somewhere else. They don't owe anyone shit. You know how you communicate to them??? With your $$$$. Wait for the smoke to clear next time before jumping in if it's such a problem. This nerdy victim mentality is a joke. I own an LE. LOVE it. Stern should do what is in their best interest....and if it doesn't align with consumers they go out of business. I personally am glad they are around.

I agree with most of this. In the end we are damn lucky to be able to have these in our homes. I cringe when my friends come over and say I want one how much are they????? I never want to tell them. loll I have an LE and at first yesterday I was a little mad because I do like the premium colors used very much. In the end though I am happy. The LE looks more ZOMBIE And LESS AMC. I will admit I would love it if we all were given a downloadable brochure on announcement day with ALL options available for the first year out so we can chose our incredibly expensive purchase. I am not MAD at Stern per say. I am hoping that in the future they give us more heads up but, you guys remember this type of business started years ago with AVATAR actually. Im over it. I am lucky to have one at all let alone 3.

#29 5 years ago
Quoted from pinball_erie:

Good god man, are you even slightly serious? Didn't you have a chance to back out after you saw the features matrix? Nowhere there did it say the blood splattered armor was included. Looking at your collection is proof of what I have been stating on here all day, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!
You seem to buy almost every LE that comes down the pike, how many of those were preordered? As long as Stern has suckers to buy their product sight unseen, what's the incentive to man up?
If there is a Star Wars pin down the road, I will have my first preorder in place and will not bitch about a thing. I know the risk, maybe the machine will be missing a shit ton of things that will be offered at a later date, shame on me for not looking before I leap. However, I won't be found on Pinside whining about how I got ripped off. Everyone complaining about the accessories, code, premium, take it as a lesson learned.......caveat emptor.

#30 5 years ago

a) make some armor from some tinfoil..
b) splatter it with red paint..
c) send Stern a bill for 1100 bucks..
d) if they dont pay up send in Hanover Fist, he's good at collecting.

#31 5 years ago

Setting those who do pre-orders aside for the moment...(that really makes no sense to me at all)

At the time of purchase did you get the pin that you expected?

Yes

Case closed.

To give another example for a different type of product.

Samsung could release a new version of the Galaxy S5 tomorrow or every day for a month and it doesn't change that I agreed to buy a S5 and got exactly what I wanted at the time. Samsung has the ability to release any version of the phone that they think will bring in a profit.

Same for Stern/pinball.

#32 5 years ago
Quoted from sepins:

OK...I pre-bought my 1964 Anniversary Mustang but if I don't like it I can sell it for more! Will do the same for GT350.
But every day cars...You know the drill.
Was offered the $6800 price about 3 weeks ago. There are still quite a few TWD LE's out there for sale and may be a lot more right now for the $1100 difference!
Problem for me and TWD is wife. I watch show and like it and she thinks it's disgusting. Have grandkids that come over and she doesn't want one in gameroom.. Was same issue with Stern Playboy. Wanted to get rid of my NIB BIBLE and get a Luci and wife didn't want Luci in house.
Sold my NIB MOPLE because of this. Just this week convinced her Metallica game not bad other than Sparky taking some juice...LOL Hoping to get a MOPLE now.

Haha. We could have just traded my MOPLE for your MB. Instead of our debacle. What a couple of goofs. Good luck on getting one buddy, great game!!!

#33 5 years ago
Quoted from ozno:

Post here if you bought a TWD LE and agree that the optional blood spattered armour should have been included with the LE. The blood spattered armour is a simple cosmetic improvement that should have been part of the LE. If the only difference between the LE and Premium is the art, then Stern just stole $1100 from each LE owner. We demand that Stern send all LE owners the armour free of charge.

Are you insane?

#34 5 years ago

That's a different game entirely.

#35 5 years ago

heavy metal is a great movie.

#36 5 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Are you insane?

Rhetorical?

#37 5 years ago
Quoted from rai:

You got a game, want to be mad try paying Jpop and Skit-B for years with no game and then you can have a reason to bitch.

On this topic. I ONLY paid SkitB 6 months ago and I am expecting my game (fully coded) in the near future. I am not sure why everyone keeps trying to make it seem like SkitB has had money for a long time?

They will likely start delivering FINISHED games LONG before Stern ever finishes the code on their last 3 titles?

#38 5 years ago
Quoted from zizzlemeplease:

a) make some armor from some tinfoil..
b) splatter it with red paint..
c) send Stern a bill for 1100 bucks..
d) if they dont pay up send in Hanover Fist, he's good at collecting.
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That vid is the first thing I thought of when I read the title of the thread. LOVE Heavy Metal.

#39 5 years ago

So what you're saying is even though you got exclusive custom armor, you should have gotten the other custom armor that Pro, Premium, Met owners, AC/DC, Avengers owners (will go nice with that fish tank topper on his Avengers), etc can now buy too?

Listen, it's the better armor, it's a design I talked to Gio about even before TWD was announced and yes it should have been on the LE along with the side panels and a shaker. Do I think there's a reason to bitch a bit on an internet forum, yeah maybe, but sue? Get out of here with that.

Now, I actually thought when I saw the title of the thread you were going to be complaining about the design flaw with the LE (and possibly Premium) that caused playfield damage pretty much immediately. There's way more cause there for a suit than what you're talking about and I still wouldn't sue over it.

#40 5 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

Haha. We could have just traded my MOPLE for your MB. Instead of our debacle. What a couple of goofs. Good luck on getting one buddy, great game!!!

Wife is pain but I do love her.

MB seems to be likely going to Wi. now.

Gonna miss it but I've had 2 CQ MB's for the last 12 years and time for something different.

Did You ever get a MB or something else?

#41 5 years ago

I do wish stern would have made the premium choice more clear but at the same time I admit I would stay with my choice.
But that wish is in no way saying I got ripped off. I wish for a lot of things to be better that does not mean things suck either.
Had my best game ever last night. That's all that really matters : )

#42 5 years ago
Quoted from hoby1:

which they promised would never be made.

They did????

Thats shady for sure if they did...Can anyone source that (interweb cliche I know)

I thought they were taking a wait and see approach based on initial demand and ongoing sales volume...

#43 5 years ago

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#44 5 years ago

man, I read that title ... and then opened the thread EXPECTING A CAN-0-WORMS to be opened.. and Yep..."everything is going exactly as planned"

#45 5 years ago

And without a thread full of supporters, the OP is MIA. Hey OZNO, borrow your neighbors testicles and respond to no one agreeing with you.

#46 5 years ago

i have the winter-time blues, and am just generally sad with life at the moment. i don't know why, but it's probably stern's fault.

#47 5 years ago
Quoted from EvanDickson:

That's a different game entirely.

Dirty pool old man...I like it.

I won't buy a TWDLED unless Stern promises to make a TWDLEDM to sit next to it.
Then I will preorder.

I make pinballs for the American workin' man cuz that's what I am.

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#48 5 years ago
Quoted from Nikonokin:

They are a fucking business.


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#49 5 years ago

no, no, no. that isn't what he meant.....

#50 5 years ago
Quoted from ozno:

Post here if you bought a TWD LE and agree that the optional blood spattered armour should have been included with the LE. The blood spattered armour is a simple cosmetic improvement that should have been part of the LE. If the only difference between the LE and Premium is the art, then Stern just stole $1100 from each LE owner. We demand that Stern send all LE owners the armour free of charge.

Bahahaha. Seriously? A NIB LE isn't a guarantee of anything other then you're guaranteed they won't make a run of that particular model. If one cannot deal with the fact that Stern will do whatever they need to from a business standpoint to maximize profits then just be patient and buy HUO down the line. There's risk with any early innovation. I learned years ago never to buy another nib pin again.
Stern doesn't owe LE owners jack squat. It's like going to a casino and dropping 5k on a blackjack table and expecting to win each and every time. Hey wait....I lost all my chips...I changed my mind. Give me my money back. lol. Lots of things in life are a gamble.....and if you choose to gamble regardless of what it is.... sooner or later you're gonna lose. Roll with the punches and move on.

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