Had a few pinheads who were sure the game was a dud and the pop bumpers, no call outs from the show etc. made this a game to pass on but after some plays on my LE they quickly changed their tune and you could see the regret. I think its really fantastic and love the gameplay now with early code so its just going to get better, sound is crazy some of the best pin music I've ever heard. Animation are the best I've seen and its fast. Love it.

Yeah when the magnets actually really grab the ball and throw it around it is greatness, should happen more on both magnets. Lighting is my big thing, lets get some pure red modes going and better use of the lighting in general. Code is fine for me right now so I can't imagine what 3 or 4 updates might bring. Awesome game.

This from a Tron lover, outside of the center disc thing what other toys does Tron bring to the table? I would like to know your real reason for the immediate dismissal of TWD, I think its the choice to pass, that can happen and then looking for justification. AC/DC The bell and canon, lower PF? now you're reaching. In fact all the examples are bad, I'm not saying TWD toys are special but that's not what is making this game great. Thus proving my point that you are looking for a reason to dislike it, lack of toys? Do toys encapsulate a pinball machine, of course not its a mix of everything and sometimes if the toys aren't that great then music and sound compensate or vice versa, code can make a bland game all of a sudden blossom into a gem. come on man.

Still no answer on what Tron has? You named a bunch of other games but where's Tron? Just saying toys don't mean anything if the gameplay and rules suck.

Wow a spinning disc, that's magical. Its spins and spits the ball out in random fashion, well you certainly put me in my place with that one. I apologize, Tron's spinning disc is revolutionary, I didn't know what the element in Tron was that made it great buts its been the spinning disc the whole time.

I'm just buggin ya, with all due respect I don't care if you like it or not. I know you're a big fan of tron and that game is reminiscent of TWD its kinda bare bones in terms of toys and stuff yet people love it, IM too. What else to do in a Zombie game except smash Zombies and kill them, we all would like great interactive toys and I'll be honest I was disappointed when I got it home it took a few days before I realized something special was going on, I only hope you get to experience that down the line.

Uh oh RobT's boyfriend has come to his defense.

What? Oh man this is getting ugly, DaftPunk really? Ok time to leave now before I get myself banned from the thread. TWDLE is a great pin.

Ha, I love it, if you must know its the drugs. It is getting cold fast this year and I hate it but there are perks to bad weather, like its shit outside so Ill stay home all day and play pinball and with myself.

where did you get the speaker grills with lights? Looks great.

Where? I'm a little slow

Out of stock on TWD, Damn it.

Its damn fun to smash the prison and BG and Wellwalker, I would have preferred moving targets that slowly move down the playfield toward you and you have hit them before they reach a certain area or even pop ups would have been cool but these are quite satisfying, some of you guys obviously don't like, but why comment on a addicted to TWD thread. Oh and by the way that spinning disc toy on Tron is magical.

Anyone seen the GI lighting change at all, so far it seems to be the same? It say interactive GI updated.

RobT you really need to stop trying to justify not buying the pin, TWDLE in a home environment is awesome. I don't have these STDM problems, sure it does happen like with all pinball and simple nudging is a quick remedy not to mention fun and adding to the overall experience. Fast and furious with no time to slack on the control front. Maybe in the wild and few guys that can't seem to take the time for proper set up don't understand the need for repeated negativity on this issue. You see plain as day that the vast majority are either ok with it, patient to wait for a fix or enjoying the challenge. I set the tilt low and this allows for extra manipulation but doesn't take away from the difficulty, that was my fix plus a larger sleeve on the post out of the pops. there are more more drains on the outlanes than anything else like IM but again add to the survival feel. Buy an LE play it a few hundred times then get back to us all, but for now you don't know shit with all due respect.

That's mature. There is no design flaw and what do you care anyway? Why are you even on this thread? to tell us the game is crap, that makes sense. By telling me to FO its just solidifies my suspicion. Go away you douche no one cares what you think about TWD. Go play IM and tell yourself its a better game, something had jaded your view and we all see that so goodbye.

Don't care enough to even ignore.

Listen I don't want to argue with anyone, I can use Tron as an example, I bought it, put in a few hundred plays in and it wasn't for me but I wouldn't go to a Tron is addictive or I love Tron thread and state how its a turd and be negative when the people on that thread obviously are really enjoying there game, what would you call that? Being a dick is the answer.

I do respect RobT's opinions even if he hates me now, don't know what he meant by clueless as I have gone through a ton of pins and been playing for 30 plus years now. Anyway I hope he gets TWDLE down the line and enjoys it, that's the most important thing is to have fun playing pinball. I am a bug and know it so for that I apologize. Peace

My point is if you had said "not feeling TWD glad I passed" or "I gave it try and its not for me, the STDM's and code, seems flawed" then cool, come on you have to admit you have been a little rough on this game this early after release and on a thread aimed at those loving it. I'm sorry for challenging your views seems to me we are both guilty here. That's enough.

You're words

"I'm glad that I backed out of my preorder on the LE. "

"I played it and have to say that it was the least fun pinball machine that I have played in a long time"

You did call it a turd in a different thread, Listen fella haven't you noticed how many feuds you seem to get in on this site, is it always someone else's fault, you call me a zealot yet anyone who disagrees with you is a fool apparently. I would advise that you leave this alone now. I don't care anymore and will simply ignore you from now on. As for being overly sensitive you are the one posting negativity on a thread celebrating the games addictive nature, that in itself is the essence of sensitivity. Please you aren't talking to an idiot regardless of what you might think, simply someone who will call you on you're bullshit. So for all of us TWD owners explain that?

I did get Horde but nothing really happened, there is a mode where you see faint zombies with bright eyes on the DMD I've never seen before and as you make the shots one by one they disappear? it was during a mass stack of multiballs and who knows what else but I hadn't seen that animation before. It was great, I hope they make the left ramp raise during crossbow in the next code. Love the multi kills. I had an AC/DC Luci and don't recall it being a drain monster, well anymore than IM or this pin. I enjoy the challenge.

I did and who the hell are you?

Do What?

I don't think you can get prison MB once WWalker MB has begun but you can the other way. Bloodbath is a great mode for high scoring as well, I'm not sure how but there is a add a ball target or something that activates extra balls during that mode. The left ramp works well for the most part but needs some love for sure. Mods coming this week I will post some pics.

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Jesus Christ, I don't care about this anymore,. Its not that I won't give a shit anymore with the next pin I will have moved on, what's wrong with that? I loved Metallica had it for half a year and that was enough for me, still loving STLE didn't sell that, I'm not going to apologize for turning a lot of pins in and out of rotation, how long can you play the same game for? that's the way it is for me. RobT played a pro out in the field and hated it, Ok fine. I don't care.

I know, sorry. I was trying to make a point to Captain Neo who seems to know my routine better than me, but he does not at all. I think we had words in another thread so he will be negative to anything I say now. As if there is a time limit to how long you must keep a pin, usually for me its no more than 6 months to a year and that's for I game I really like.

I think a little patience is in order here,, Met Pre/LE had the shit magnet by the hammer eventually fixed, Xmen had an issue needed a new board replacement. Stern could release a fix or you can simply buy a larger sleeve, the prison magnet has been a non issue for me but I can see that it does happen, simple nudging works well, I have to say I kinda like the fact that this game kicks my ass it makes the good games that much better. If I was experiencing what some people are then I see the frustration but with all the pro's and Le's sold it seems like a small group. I'm hoping a modder makes a lane guide for the right orbit that flows right back to the flippers nice and smooth, that would be awesome.

Blood bath is awesome, get WWalker going at the same time with a mulit kill and a mode. Man its fun.

Warm GI, way better

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I attenuated the Hillbilly's voice and have music accentuated so it doesn't really go quite when he speaks, he's there but in the background a lot less annoying, I've been an advocate to illuminate humour from pinball's that should not have it for a long time. Even when they warrant humour it needs to be from the source not Stern's comedy department which sucks. B/W and the rest weren't much better for me but at least it fits, even in STLE everything was fine then they tried to be funny with McCoy's custom call outs and they are terrible.

I agree 100%.

I see the apron is changed and I like it, I hope Pin Ref starts to sell them soon.

Well comparing Mustang and TWD tells me you have a much different view than a lot of us here. Don't get wrong I understand where your coming from and nobody wanted TWD to be as evil as it could as me. There is way to limit the hillbilly to a light whisper and that helps but the game is still the darkest theme to date in terms of music and SFX, very creepy indeed. As far as intensity goes not too many pins match TWD in that department, stacking 4 or 5 modes and things get crazy. Stern should just stop trying to be funny, they are not and its affecting my pinball.

You can shut him off completely with adjustments if its that bad, it was for me at first but by simply making him quiet it really helped. All I can say is the fun factor outweighs the hillbilly. There are a lot pins that have shit music, bad humour, terrible SFX but the gameplay is fun. I do understand as Fishtales didn't last that long in my collection and a big part was the music, its brutal.

I put these on the mod thread, figured why not here as well.

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Some parts of the plastic are almost transparent and with the eyes drilled out, a 7 led strip red of course should look cool. Not to mention I can swap him out for other Zombies when I feel its needed.

Ninja Scroll is so great, now there's a fantastic pin waiting to be made. Thanks

I played the pro before I got my LE and it was fun enough that it solidified my purchase of an LE but no way can an on site pro or LE/Pre ever compare to the pin being at your house with full sound, set up right, mods etc. I hated Met Pro at the shop but loved the Pre when I bought and got in my house, way different experience. How long it lasts is strictly personal preference.

I got a good deal on a Monster Pre and took it, figured I would give it a shot, did the same thing with AC/DC Luci and I think most people would agree that the Pro model of that pin wasn't the best representation of what it has to offer. The point is you can't judge a pin by the Pro model at a brightly lit shop or arcade with next to no volume and background noise at least I can't. Was that too difficult to comprehend or are you a little slow?

I still say the ultimate mod for TWD is to devise a way that the left orbit shot is a smooth transition back to the flippers. I tried removing the furthest to the right of the cab pop bumper and rigging a make shift lane guide but it didn't work, that pop is disabled anyway on my machine so wouldn't matter if it disappeared all together. I think after the holiday I'm going to go back in full throttle and see if I can make it a reality. Otherwise the game is amazing and due to theme which is usually the biggest element of longevity when it comes to pinball machines for me is off the charts cool.

Me too, the topper is the coolest, man is it great. I just had a serious game with all the multiballs, axe multikill and blood bath. My favorite mode was also running, Tunnel. I think the next update will incorporate the GI lighting more and slowly this pin will offer a lighshow equal or greater to Met Pre/LE. Just getting better and better, gas sign coming and I hope Pin Ref releases the Apron soon.

Anyone gotten Siege mode yet? I just did and its amazing. I think when Lyman is done with this pin we are in for a real treat.

Its within the prison multiball, I had a super long multi and all of sudden the mode started with a tank on the DMD and with successful shots of the tower and prison zombie head you cold blow up the prison fences etc. Very cool mode with great animations and explosions.

What is Knife multiball? I've never seen that before.

It does and not in the hillbilly voice, at least it didn't sound like him more of a low deep voice. Its insane, coolest mode I've encountered yet on TWD, only more to come. After seeing that the possibilities of future modes and upgrades to current ones should be amazing.

Man does this game ever need and also very deserving of a color DMD upgrade. I hope once code is done the firmware follows for this pin and I can see the animation in color.