I actually like the pro default bright leds.
Though bouth some double leds in red from cointaker. And will add these perhaps in the empty holes found in the playfield. But will wait till I find a premium or le to take some detailed pics.

Just installed the fishtank mod yesterday on my pro (not the topper). Looks really great.

TWD is a great game. I just love the layout and feeling it has. I had star trek pro before, but thought it was too easy and modes were to similar. Walking dead is a whole different kind of machine and haven't regret it a minute I upgraded from ST to the TWD.

I'm curious now for what's the correct position of those plastics.

All pro, LE and even premium stern official pictures show this in the setup, smallest is below, largest is on top.

Changing it gives indead more room for the well walker to move (especially on direc thits) and most likely triggering the base assy switch better. But if that plastic was intended to limit it's movement,...

any official input from Stern on this? People who received them nib and those plastics were installed with smallest on top?

Just had an above average CDC mode... 600M

But I guess these kind of cdc's will be history with the next code update.

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A topper max number was never mentioned. So this will be limited in time, just like any titles is I guess.
It would be unfair too if they would limit it. If you missed out on the first batch..

I truly love this game. Very nice layout, multiballs, sound and modes.

Today I got a new Arena highscore of 103M! I was shooting the ramp really a lot and in the end I hit the ramp a last time for a single shot value of 54M! (with the knife stab animation)
I did not have double scoring running and I even believe that 54M was unmultiplied.

TWD is really a great game and I still enjoy it as much since day 1. Can't wait to discover how it plays with the new software.

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No it's mechanic.. use a softer spring on the prison doors or see where you can adjusted the mechanism. There's also a switch I believe to see if they are open or not.

Regarding strategy Eskaybee.. yes it works the way you say it. Though not every mode has a repetitive shot (tunnel, cdc and arena).
Clearing the prison yard is of choice, you can shoot the arrows or shoot the prison each time for one of the arrows to clear. Shooting the prison is more dangerous for stdm drain risk.
Though with the shot multiplier that can add up to f.e. 5x, dubbele playfield and shooting modes and score big at the right time is really great.

A Multikill goes together with an obtained weapon once you did something to get them.. But if you score good in a mode, you're multikill is worth a lot more and can really ad up to the scoring.

For me weapons vs multikills should need a little more (for example shoot 3 yellow multikill shots to change an obtained flashing weapon towards a solidly lit weapon).

Huge score! congratz!
3 or 5 balls? Dflt settings?

104 walkers... that's close to last man standing (not there yet but hey)

Optimize scoring... 2 stacked multiballs together with double scoring and a good mode like riot, tunnel, cdc, barn. Hit the drop targets a lot to extend the mode timer.

My riot high score is 240M. And even if i try to play it the way i wrote here, and even succeed. It's still difficult to get a huge score.

And that's why twd is such a great game. Sounds easy, isn't easy, but feels great when you succeed in it.

So this makes the LE/premium the 'easy' game then

I have a question regarding the modes and their related episodes

cdc = end of season 1
barn = season 2
arena = season 3
riot = ?
tunnel = ?

prison = season 3 a 4
well walker = season 2
siege = season 4
terminus = ?
last man standing = ?

I listed them to be set a little more difficult. Keep playing and don't forget the importance of the drop targets.

TomDk that weight is too heavy on the flipper bushings, it will break them causin the flipper to drag on the playfield. (seen it from experience)

Stock has double leds white cold

Horde has no ending at this moment (you get bit or you drain all balls)

Random well walker hits.

I solved it on my machine:
Bad connection on the z connector from the switch to the main switch matrix wire loom. I inversed this connector 180 degrees and haven't had any since.

Switch should be enough (without the target). Adjust it (or replace in worst case) and you should be good.

@Eskaybee:

siege is lit by doing this:
start prison multibull, shoot 6 jackpots (alternate shots and prison walker) so you get the super through the riot shot

For 6 to 12:
After the super jackpot you can shoot victory laps. You must alternate too doing this, you shoot a ramp, you shoot the prison. However prison doors stay closed now and you only see that you have to shoot the prison by it's flashers. This was so in previous code, don't know if it has changed but I think it's the same.

After 6 succesfull alternates after the super, siege is lit when multiball ends at the prison.

ps: If you make a superjackpot during prison, but do not qualify for 12 jackpots, I think in the next prison multiball, you start with jackpots again in stead of victory laps.

No, I think you can get to Siege by shooting 6 jackpots in a first prison multiball and 6 in the second.

Don't know though if you can do something like 8 and 4. Or 4 and 8. But I think it will work this way.

Also had a reset today during Horde:

Horde was running combined with riot, just reached level 3, then boom a reset.

Played some games with multiball afterwards, no issue
Played a Horde game later today, no issue...

Never had an issue before.. but I think Horde with a certain combination of things can cause this to lock up the software so it causes a reset.

The insert surely lights up when Horde is lit. (on my pro)
it should also flash when a multikill shot is made I think.

Is it a lamp or a flasher underneath it? If both, check if both work. Maybe only the flasher is used then during the game.

I will check on 1.56, but this was the way it has been on previous releases.

Confirmed: horde flasher works on the pro when making multikills on 1.56. Haven't reached Horde today (I have all my multikill settings on the hardest setting )

Has nothing to do with the top lanes near the bumpers.
X inlane multiplier is advanced by killing walkers. Every 2 walkers give you an X. So 2 walkers = 2x, 4 walkers = 3x.. this is untill you 'use' it.
You can combine it with double playfield (3x + double = 6x).

X champion is the highest value made in one single shot. This can consist out of different items (mode shot + walker kill + multikill + past mode shot + combo + ...)

My phantom well walker hits were caused by the z connector (the switch is always closed, so a bad connection and some vibration caused it). Switching the zconnector with another one solved it completely.

This would be a really nice mod to place under the pro ramp!

To fix some drains, you can increase the pitch of your game by using the levelers (bottom quite up, front quite down).

RIOT!!

Also registered a 84M crossbow champion

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A 500+ Million Riot:

Well that riot was played in a double multiball (well and blood bath).

I played it as the fourth mode, meaning 3 other modes were already played and next to switch hits, those shots also added 500K up to the riot value, this is what is called 'a past mode shot'.
But very early in the riot mode I shot the riot 3 times in a row (on double scoring) and then continued to hammer that shot with multipliers and double scoring (for a long time). In the end I shot a few shots 6x (double + 3x) shooting at 99m a shot
Off course keep hitting the drops to extend the mode timer.

Suggestions for software would be:

- woodburry machine determined skill shot and not selectable by player
- make horde itself ( a lot) harder and when you drain all balls, keep shooting instead of moving to the next ball in play (like you would have been bit) --> now i find myself avoiding horde because it is too easy, you can keep it going for too long.
Also because I will loose the ball eventually during Horde and I cannot advance my walker kills towards LMS.

Serious question, how many of you have had Horde ended because you were too slow shooting the shots and got bit?

Getting to Horde on default settings is not hard, but you must play it right and focus on the drops:

1 multikill from bicycle girl (this is a must)
1 multikill from prison multiball (3 or 4 jackpots on default)
1 multikill from well walker multiball
1 multikill from bloodbath superjackpot (the drops)

Others that come in easy why playing the above:
- mode multikills (5 modes so options enough)
- x time droptarget bank completed
- x time fishtanks completed (right ramp)
- woodburry skillshots made
- combo's

Especially if you combine blood bath with another multiball and a mode, you can easily get 3 multikills from that combination.

Yes, there is, I have it a maximum, but it's still too slow

Horde ends with all balls drain, you move to next ball (or gameover if it was the last)
Horde ends when you got bit (means your shooting is really bad ) --> flippers die, and you keep shooting in normal play mode.

Walker kills and played modes stay lit but all weapon inserts are reset.

Then what.. you go for Siege, Last man standing, terminus, or go for Horde again.

Lots to do, for you to decide

When exactly do you get the killing spree quote? I like it, here it from time to time, but don't know the exact criteria.

@RandomKG:

A second bicycle girl will not give you a multikill, unless you did not earn it the first time.
If you play for example terminus (6th mode) and then play the modes all over again, I think you can earn them back for the modes.

Just heard the greatest quote today (factory software):
"they're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out, ..."

To me there's no need to add cliffy protectors to the magnet with the new magnet system.
I have mine a year with zero wear.

Off course it is. The core is surrounded by a metal. So the magnet has it's own protector

Siege is lit by hitting 12 jackpots in prison multiball.
If you have hit the superjackpot, you must shoot a ramp and then the prison (doors closed). Iin this victory round each prison hit after you have shot a ramp counts towards siege as well.
You can qualify for siege in 2 seperate prison multiballs (7 jackpots for example in the first multiball, 5 in the second)

3 of 5 crossbow shots to get to frenzy indeed.

Sometimes scoring can be insane because of the multipliers. I once had a (legit) 500M+ Riot mode
And also an X champion of a single (the last though) terminus shot being worth 130M.

You must start the frenzy at the right ramp (lamp blinks faster). Also meaning that if a super would exist, it would not work because of this

I made a little topic about TWD X champ high score scroll down with a video of my scroll down:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/twd-show-your-x-champion-scroll-down

Curious for what others pulled off!

The music, light, concept is great but.. in it's current state.. no it isn't..
you can't beat it..
it's too easy (who has been bit yet during horde?)
mostly ends with a ball drain and advance to next ball in play which isn't something you want in a wizard mode, especially on 3ball games.

@Gweemposte Flippers die and you get a keep shooting (i once had a stuck ball, that's why I know this )

Crossbow frenzy is no multiball but a frenzy (you have a timer in which you have to make crossbow shots, during that time right ramp is always lit, and making a shot resets the timer.

Xbox champion qualifies for the highest value of a single shot made in a crossbow shot (in normal mode or in frenzy mode). I have it at around 80M (you can use the multiplier on it)

@tp: just to be sure, swap the Z connector going to the well walker switch with another one from the game.. just to rule it out

Mezelmods has the light
Laseriffic had the aquariums

Magnet cliffy's not needed with the new stern magnet system.

No, games like metallica (simple magnet core) need it
Games like twd, spiderman vault, ... do not need it. They have a magnet core with an additional metal area around it.

The horde light lights when a multikill shot is made (i think it's the flasher). This is certainly 100% sure pro behaviour.
On the pro it also lights when Horde is lit.

And so causing the confusing 'my horde light works on my le/premium'. That it only lights for multikills being made but not when Horde itself is lit.

With Lyman, nothing is ever finished

I have my pro at about 1.2B (3 balls, harder multikill settings). But I managed to pull of a 550M riot A few riot shots were 100M a shot. Multipliers, double playfield... no bug!

What..?
Is it broken now (backbox, playfield glass, ..)?

Black decal is factory. It loosened on my first games already, removed it immediately then.

Woodbury is a bit easy now but this is intended because some games in the field have inconsistent plunger behaviour.
I thought you can set some options that an already made woodbury skillshot cannot be repeated on the same selection.

Are any of the mode champs set now with his initials?
However, a good combination multiball, mode, horde, etc... can give you a good score.
3 ball or 5 ball game, extra ball or replay settings?

Latest software? (earlier ones had bad scoring on cdc and riot)
That or a flaky switch

LMS strategy.
Get a multikill going and focus on making lit crosshair shots, if possible combined with the multikill insert (yellow). Then they count double.
You need quite some multiballs and then focus (more) on the walker kill shots than you normally do. Also get to 60 multikills for your second extra ball, and if possible focus on the lit towers (at the 10th you earn another extra ball).

I play mine on 3 balls, hard multikill settings and got to 114... (at 110 the wife walked in and asked me some questions.. i was like sstt ssttt don't don't.., but too late)

Horde kills shouldn't count for LMS imho... would be too easy then. That's the cool thing about LMS, it's a hard wizard mode to achieve but certainly achievable if you focus on the crosshairs.

My game play without focus averages at around 45
My game play with focus averages at 90 walker kills

regards,
DAV (default walker kill champion)

I play my games on 3 balls, all factory and the hardest multikill settings (f.e. complete tunnel for multikill, complete bicycle girl for multikill, 5 barn shots for multikill, complete cdc for multikill, which is normally a lot less...). Extra balls enabled but not through a replay.
Left outlane post in the down position, right outlane post in the up position.

I do have an excellent feed from the pops and prison magnet (no stdm)

Your well walker switch probably needs adjustment. (in normal position the switch is closed, which is the opposite of most other switches!)
Also reseat the connectors below the playfield for the well walker.

Best to test using the switch test! .

Correct a code issue

Today my prison doors smashed the plastic on the left hand side (continues behind it) of the prison in 2 halves ...

This was during a ball search without a ball in the neighbourhood..

Anyone have a spare they would like to sell me to help me out?

That's the one

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Ballsofsteel...

build up the drops and one of the multiballs, combining a multiball with blood bath is key.
During multiball make sure you extend a running mode by shooting drops (certainly easy in blood bath as the drops are the one to shoot for).

Score big in barn and riot by using the double playfield multiplier and the x shot multiplier.

But the way you build towards multiballs is also important... never bash the head until the last 2 shots, never hit the well on certain area's (I usuall hit him towards the pops area so it feeds back from the pops).

Also make sure that when you have a crossbow shot, you multiply it as max as possible.. these can score really big!

fyi: This is twd pro play, so I have no crossbow but inlane feed before making the crossbow shot
Premium/LE probably needs you to cash in when shooting the right ramp to load the crossbow.

No, when you made the weapons drop.. the yellow light above the right ramp will be lit... if you have double playfield and an inlane multiplier ready (for example 4x). Then shoot the right ramp, cash in your inlane multiplier and shoot a crossbow shot.

4x and double playfield = 8x so when making a succesfull crossbow shot: 5M can be worth 40M due to the 8xmultiplier.
If you combine this with for example a running barn mode and you shoot the barn shot this way... you have

5M (crossbow) + 4M (barn) + walker kill/multikill/... = 10M x 8 = 80M in one shot

To pull these things off isn't always easy but this is how you try to play the game continuesley. Multiplay on modeshots, higher multikill values, well walker jackpots, etc...

I have shot 100M riot shots this way too (my riot champ is f.e. now 500M+)

ps: to build your inlane multiplier, shoot lit crosshairs, every 2 shot advances the multiplier by one.

If you want to play more features... focus on the drop targets during multiball.. every multiball is quite certain a combination with a mode then.

I have factory settings but increased multikill difficulty (complete bicycle girl for multikill, complete tunnel for multikill, 5 barn shots for multikill, etc...) so horde is more of a challenge

After hitting 114 walkers once and 113 walkers once... finally after 2,5 years I reached Last Man Standing!

Very nice mode, worth lots of points! (3balls factory settings, extra's enabled (25 kills, 60kills and 10 lit tower hits)

The bonus burning pile is also a nice touch

Game is a pro.

Finished abit above 2Billion. Last man standing was worth 492M. Could have played it better but was too excited

There is so much potential in this game on the scoring part that I always leave the game thinking "that mode could have scored a lot bigger if I didn't miss the multiplied shot (with double playfield) I had setup ".

Actually I played horde in that game and terminus.
I actually abuse horde to get playfield multiplier tower hits so it counts up towards 10 hits for an extra ball. When I'm down to one ball in horde, I cradle my ball and time out Horde so I get bit (and the ball is reserved as 'keep shooting' instead of the risk of draining the last ball during horde and moving to my next ball in play for that game.

And by the time last man standing was lit, horde was also lit for the second time.
I made the shot, curious what mode would start but Last man Standing has priority above Horde.

Keep in mind that I have my multikill settings to the hardest (so it takes more shots in a mode (or complete) to get a multikill. For example cdc and tunnel and arena require you to complete the mode for a multikill. Barn needs 5 hits, riot also needs the maximum number of hits. Bicycle girl needs to be completed, etc...

It's prison multiball (watch season 3/4 for this)

With Lyman I would not doubt about it. For reference, think about Tron and MET.
The premium/le 'horde' light is a known bug so someday in the future I figure it will get fixed

ps: manic... nice location 'Alexandria' (season 6)

In order of easyness for me:

- horde
- terminus
- siege
- last man standing

It all depends on how you focus your game.
If you try for Siege during multiball you'll get it at some point. Especially if you combine prison with blood bath.
Now Siege is a bit difficult for most because it's not really clear how to qualify for it.
For me:
- shoot the six jackpots then the superjackpot
- then alternate prison (doors closed) and a ramp for six times
- then siege is lit after multiball

I believe that if you have hit a superjacpot, the next prison multiball starts again like the first (so no doors closed/ramps only to shoot the jackpots, but the normall way)

Finally a big CDC and new X champ

Nothing robotic.. been trying this cdc score for a year now. Lots of times close but always failed when trying to go for the big payoff on the left ramp.

I build the cdc value by looping the left ramp a lot and then go into multiball, shoot lots of shots and avoid the left ramp untill the value is really high. It sounds easy but is really hard to have the cards right.

Yes my Riot score is indeed great Managed to do it once on another machine too.
I made a few 100M shots during that riot mode

Insane crossbow shot Wayne! Crossbow frenzy can be worth at lot too. Though hard to get cause you mostly go for the different drop target inserts.

Score big in modes, multiballs... --> high multikill value

For example score 100M in barn, score 100M in riot. This alone makes a multikill value worth a lot (5% or 10% of the modes total?). So if you have for example a 20M multikill and you shoot it quite a lot with multipliers, this can add up quite nicely.
20M x 3 (inlane multiplier) + double playfield = 120M a shot

And in competition mode, multikill values do not reset after Horde so this is a very important setting (you can change it as desired).

Next to that, terminus, horde and LMS count big.

But then again, you have to play it all to get to those billions

Main shots yes. Small switch hits (popbumpers, prison targets, slingshots, inlanes, etc...) not.

A disabled crossbow on a premium/le will not act as a pro, you cannot make any crossbow shots in a game with a disabled crossbow.

I had to swap the Z connector towards the well walker switch (located near the drop targets)

Did you reset the connector(s) to the drop target board(s)?

There is knowledge of a very rare Horde reset and what I heard, should be covered in a future update.

You can't, just try to keep count in your head.

Incorrect... I have 2B scores on my pro without even playing LMS.

Try and play the crossbow frenzy with double playfield.
Or play a good mode (200M+) and then start cashing in on multiplied multikill values

Ok correct, just watched the tutorial vid and saw the end score of that video that was a lot lower. So my reaction was based on that

The main reason the scores got so high on keith's game is also the fact that on tournament settings, the multikill value doesn't reset when horde is played. This makes a huge difference. On the other hand, you cannot start modes during a multiball. But 9B is indeed a crazy score.

I'm having a blast now with this game. It only gets better

yes, very fast tunnel to arena jumps sometimes in my cdc too... (and goes then stdm)

No coding problem, as long as ball save is active, you cannot shoot the extra ball in multiball. Only when the ball saver is out.

It is probably done the current way because of this reason:

Multiball and ball saver has the possibility to launch a ball when another ball is right in front of the gate in the popbumpers. If the launched ball would hit another ball at the exit and so not fully exit the shooter lane... it would roll back. This way the game cannot know this happened, or you shot the woodburry shot yourself. So I think it is solved correctly

It jumps above the opto because of the magnet, mine does it from time to time on fast balls.

All modes score big... CDC is the one with the nice cash out, but the others build up quite nicely when being played for a longer time.

If you play tunnel, try looping the tunnel shot a few times before making the first red arrow shot, value increases by 2,5M a shot.

GI 'animation' on Horde is a LE/Premium thing only.

After playing the premium again, I really think the pro is the better playing game.
More flow, faster (through left loop - no spinner, left ramp, no corssobow...)

And the fact that you can multiply crossbow shots

I added the prison tower official mod and a fishtank alike to fill up the emptiness.
Other than that, the GI is the best about the premium.

I even like the flashing of the mode inserts better on the pro (completely different).

Can you imagine that I've reached LMS once and played it,a few months later reached it twice and on both drained while trying to shoot the woodburry shot.

This is the mod I have:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/zombie-aquarium-mod

480M on arena
600M on riot
280M on cdc
245M on tunnel
180M on barn
1.2B on terminus *
632M on X champ
300M crossbow champ
600M on horde
5.6M on combo champ
...

My favorite mode now is actually Arena

Stern is aware and knowing who programmed this, this certainly will get fixed sooner or later...

My most commonly achieved:

- prison multiball after x jackpots
- well walker after x well jackopts
- blood batch after x jackpots at the drops
- x times drop completions
- bicycle girl

And of course all mode multikills are easy to achieve

Sometimes I get the x combo's multikill and x fish tanks multikills too.

If I need one more multikill for example, I mostly go through a mode if multiball is too far away to start.

No you have to complete x times the fishtank, don't know exact how much but in longer games you get there eventually.
Especially when you run through tunnel, cdc for those modes, or crossbow shots.

I advice to set up your games a little steeper, so the ball hangs more on the lower side of the magnet.

It sure pulses but with a more flatten game, the ball will not move much from it's core.

Killing spree: hit all the walkers in the yard quite fast and you get this awarded

Horde rules (at this moment! ): starts at the woodburry with 2 or 3 balls and every x lit shots you get an add-a ball and move up one level. The closer the walker the higher the points you get. Points depend on how high your multikill value was before starting it.
Horde ends:
when a walker is too close (all lamps on a certain shot lit + some extra time) and bites you, you keep playing on your current ball in play
OR
when you drain your last ball, and then you advance to next ball in play

Crossbow frenzy can run together with horde.
You start crossbow frenzy at the right ramp after you shot 3 succesfull crosbow shots.

I hit a 6 or 7 way combo once (right ramp and tunnel alternation) but combo champ is on one shot I think.

not yet

Time will tell I suppose

12 prison jackpots during prison multiball (first 6 = prison then another red shot, followed by the superjackpot. The other 6 are a ramp and then the closed prison, unless you play it in two times then you continue on you count but with the behaviour of the first 6 again). Siege starts after prison multiball has ended by shooting the prison.

Played a lot on this code and it's great. (Who said I was 'nuts' believing another update would be released )

Especially this:
increased arena mode scoring (double playfield, ramp ramp multiplied ramp and boom goes your score)
increased tunnel scoring
Horde Escape: the most import one and the solution for not being blocked on this mode and resulting in a drained ball /advance to next ball. Especially the double playfield that works on the horde escape bonus is a thing to shoot for!
Horde more walkers lit
Normal gameplay minimum 4 walkers lit instead of 3 gets last man standing more within reach
Progress of Siege qualification during prison multiball
And of course the terminus scoring:
hurry up 1 : 20% of the last (5th) mode played
hurry up 2: 20% of the 5th mode played + 20% of the 4th mode played
hurry up 3: 20% of 5th + 20% of 4th + 20% of 3rd
hurry up 4:...

So for good terminus scoring, play a really good 5th mode and you can cash in big!

'DAV' (walker champ)

LMS will be easier to achieve because of these 2 changes:

3 to 4 walkers lit at all time
The horde escape because horde was basically a certain lost ball when you entered that mode (unless you got bit), now with the escape you cash in and continue to play towards last man standing. This was my biggest problem with twd actually.

But not in a way that you get often to LMS now on the new code

Siege will be a little bit easier but it was never achieved much by players because you needed to keep count yourself for it. Not that it's easier to play now but the progress indicator you see during prison multiball will make you more focus on it. And nowing scoring increased a lot in the mode will make it a better goal to go for.

They sure are

The fact that not 3 but 4 walkers are lit makes you build up your multipliers faster (every 2 walkers is + one X on your shot multiplier).
That and increased scoring on barn, tunnel, arena. But also higher crossbow values, higher victory laps in multiball, ...

So yes higher scores is a logic thing.

But who played the horde escape already? I did for sure, but what do you think about it?

Horde qualification difficulty is exactly the same. Which is good as it is imho

Trust me it isn't
LMS is easier, weapons/multikills qualification towards Horde is exactly the same

Yes correct, horde itself was too easy. Getting bit was such a rare thing. And you just kept playing (most of the time) untill you lost your ball.
Now it's perfect because:
You drain your ball before level 3 --> bad luck but you really should have played better because the lower the level the less shots you need to advance
You get bit (more often now) --> horde ends but you loose your horde bonus
You play good / take some risk and cash in big with the horde escape bonus. (even doubled with the 2x playfield).
And then you continue to play toward LMS.

Before it was a real cool mode but it blocked your path toward LMS. Now it's perfect and really balanced in the risk vs award