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Walker bombs aren't enough to compensate for Prem/LE dangers

I've gotten into the 90's twice. I just can't focus on anything else until I finish LMS. Which is why I still haven't seen siege yet. When I finish those, I will probably focus on getting massive x multiplier shots and huge mode scores.

I have a little question, isn't the "horde" suppose to light up or at least flash when you get the horde mode? Mine doesn't, and the lamp works.
Ola

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Is yours a Premium? I think it lights up on the Pro, but doesn't on the Premium for some reason.

Mine is a limited edition. Is it the same there?

Yes.

Check out Horde videos on Youtube. The Pro ones show the insert flashing when the mode is ready, and the Premiums/LEs don't.

Not sure if Stern is aware of this bug.

Ok, Thank you
Ola

It currently does NOT light up but the red flasher starts firing by the Woodbury shot when Horde is ready.

This bug was reported a long time ago. Frustrating to not be fixed yet.

Stern is aware and knowing who programmed this, this certainly will get fixed sooner or later...

Hope so. Seems the newer Spike games are getting all the attention.

MET's last code drop in June '16 was 14months after the last. It's been longer than that for TWD (Dec '15).

Also, is it just me or do the RGB-lit rollovers above the pops never actually do anything RGB-worthy? Except in attract mode.

Pretty sure the horde light lit on my premium

It lights in attract mode and possibly at other times, but we're talking about when Horde mode is ready to start. It would be very strange if you had the only Premium in the world that does it.

I am special let me check my videos

Lyman has confirmed he is working on one final update to twd, hopefully that will fix it

Any idea what this final update will entail and when it may be available to us?

Can you be more specific of a source, unless you spoke directly to Lyman of course??

I wouldn't count on a TWD update for a couple of years if ever. Lyman always has a list of improvements for his games that he would like to do someday, but there is only so much time for him to work on older games when he has new ones he's coding now.

I just got a TWD premium. How high is your bicycle girl ramp in the up position? Mine came with the ramp fix kit already installed. Part of that fix was a few pads on the bottom of the metal ramp flap. My ball actually grazes those pads on the way under the ramp. It barely raises high enough to allow the ball under. Is there a way to get it to raise higher? The entire thing seems kind of rickety.

Buy the bg ramp cliffy.

Already installed also. It just seems like the ramp should raise higher.

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I also have the cliffy installed on mine. I didn't like how the edge of the metal ramp was slightly raised up creating a bump that the ball was hitting. It appeared to be causing some ball jump. So I removed the black foam pads completely since the cliffy is protecting the playfield anyway. Now the metal edge sits flat. No ball jumping. This would fix your problem as well.
Junky

I just took the pads off. Guess they don't need to be there with the Cliffy. That gives it a little more clearance. I guess that should be good enough. This pin also came with the carbon fibre Cliffys around magnets. They look good. I have noticed that sometimes the one on prison magnet makes the ball skip enough to jump over the opto sensor and not register prison door hits. That kinda sucks. I might have to remove it.

I highly recommend Gnassel's BG light mod for your pin. Makes a huge difference. It's awesome how the light changes from white to red when you hit her. Should have been included from the factory IMO.
Junky

I think I have that too. I just traded my pinball Refinery AC/DC premium for a pinball Refinery TWD premium. I'm just in the getting to know you stage on this pin. I think I have it dialed in now. The only things bugging me a little are the left ramp being a little low when raised. And the Cliffy on the prison magnet making the ball jump.

Are these Cliffys even needed? I thought that the metal around the magnet core protected the playfield? Cliffs around that metal circle seems a bit overboard to me.

Yeah, it may be coming off soon. But here is what I'm talking about with my left ramp. This is bicycle girl mode. The ramp is raised. I grabbed the ball and put it under the ramp flap. It barely has enough room to go under.

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Ok found the problem. The 2 screws at the top of the lifting ramp were both loose. I tightened those up and it lifts high. I knew there shouldn't be that much side to side play in that ramp. Now I just need to decide if I want to try and remove these carbon fibre Cliffys.

YES! Tonight I finally played Horde mode! It has taken me a long time to get there. I was so excited!
Set my new high score too (540 mil).
Awesome pin. I just love it!

Nice job! Getting to Horde is no easy task.

Joining this club in a couple of hours. My butthole is ready.

Does anyone have a Cleland video? I'd like to see it before I decide if it's a sound mod I definitely want to add or not?

Also can someone point me to where I can find the file for the pro? The facebook dropbox links arent working.

I had them on and took the prison one off as it puts air on the ball and the prison opto's won't register.

A friend of mine talked to him in denmark at the ifpa world championship. No info on timeline, just that he is working on a last update, and it will make it possible to actually finish horde. But we will see. Didnt the final metallica update come quite a long time after it was released?

I had them on and took the prison one off as it puts air on the ball and the prison opto's won't register.

I'm afraid I am gonna have to do the same. This game is too difficult to give away prison hits. Starting a multi ball can save your ass. And if that is delayed due to ball jumping over optos it sucks! What method did you use to remove it safely?

For multiball to start it takes hits to the walker head. That's a physical switch. That needs tweaking too so that it registers consistently.

The head registers fine. It can't be a really weak hit. But I'm ok with that. It's frustrating when the doors take a direct hit but the ball skipped above the opto because of the Cliffy and doesn't register. The harder the shot the more likely it is to skip. It happens way too often.

Yeah ive found in most cases cliffys on the playfield mess with gameplay too much. Especially over time.

Great pin though. I traded my AC/DC for it and I'm am totally happy. I've only had it about a week. I got to horde the very first day I had it. Didn't have a clue what i was doing. I was just trying to keep the ball alive. Now that I am learning the rules and actually trying to accomplish certain shots it's kicking my ass. Multiple prison door shots not registering is unacceptable.

I think I'm gonna try a hair dryer to soften the glue under the Cliffy to start. Then slowly work goo gone under the Cliffy with a plastic razor blade scraper.

Are you a fan of the show? If so, you'll realize after playing 5 minutes with the stock sound that anything would be better. Honestly, it's an understandable question to ask and I wondered the same thing. But once you install the Cleland mix with clips from the actual actors you'll realize that there's really no other option.

I know I'm in the minority, but I prefer most of the stock callouts. I think the guy is funny and those callouts also have very important cues for the gameplay. Bloodbath, well walker, modes, etc.

Okay, so I thought I knew what hard pinball was. Then I got my TWD tonight. What the hell. My butthole actually was *NOT* ready.

Give the machine a chance and hopefully you will learn to love it! Initially we were a bit shocked how hard the game is. Now, we love it and one of the best all time pins in my opinion. It is that frustration that will change how you play and definitely make you a better all round pinball player.

Have fun!

I have Tron and Ironman (both known as punishing games) as well as TWD but neither comes close to the unforgiving nature of TWD. I swear there are magnets pulling the ball into the outlanes. Get ready to spread your cheeks and lift your sack.

For me it's just the tight shots. This is one of the only games where o can think of where I will have multiballs and just not hit a damn thing. Unusually you get lucky andnhit at least ONE shot. But this fucking game...

Fingernail - then sticky goo remover sparingly.

Yup that's what happens!

Also I prefer stock music and effects - they match the gameplay better than any of the other sound updates.

Stick with it Wasp - when you get into the zone on TWD - nothing really compares to the pinball high you get. When horde starts throbbing it's insane!

The links are in post #913 here https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/walking-dead-le-sound-replacement-v-09/page/19#post-3665319

I'm running the custom kpg audio on my Premium. It sounds amazing IMO. And I've tried all of the custom audio roms I could find on my virtual pinball machine including slayer/beavis&butthead, NIN, etc.
I think both the kpg and cleland roms sound way better than stock. You should try a few and see what you like.
Junky

That's useful, appreciated. I'm very happy with it now (except that it rips me a new one on a regular basis) but it's always good to know there could possibly be a little more polish coming.

Looking at the Stern code READ ME text files;

MET:
V1.0 - April 30, 2013
=>
V1.64 - April 23, 2015
V1.7 - June 19, 2016 (~14 months after last, over 3yrs after first)

TWD:
V1.11 - Oct 28, 2014 (although my game came with older code than this)
=>
V1.53 - Nov. 23, 2015
V1.56 - Dec. 1, 2015 (about 20 months ago since last, under 2yrs since first).