Should be a very simple decision Jon. TWD is way way better than BM66 will ever be!

Short version:
Don't be insane- if you like the BM66 layout/theme at all, hang in there as it will be better when the code is done.

Long version:
As an owner of both- it's certainly silly to assume that BM66 will be "better" when the code is done- except maybe it is? It's George and Lyman's new baby and the most important machine Stern has ever sold. Consider this, what are we 2.5-3 yrs later on TWD and the Prem/LE Horde insert light still doesn't function, and this is on an amazing seller for Stern.

The BM66 open shot layout and feel is much much better than TWD imo. I've said this on the interwebs many times as well, it's cruel how many times you can lose the ball (or a warning) on TWD on a "successful" shot. Same can be said about BM66 crane and joker magnet- but so far, I can tell you it happens with much less frequency.

I should also say, I can't stand TWD with stock sounds. The theme immersion is trash from the factory. I first fell in love with it after Cleland's work and then liked it even more when I added my NIN/RH on top of Cleland's callout pkg. Meanwhile the early signs for theme immersion on BM66 are incomplete to be sure, but what's there is phenomenal.

My advice, make more money, get more space and ensure you can have both.

From.what I hear, bm66 is a disaster in terms.of quality and the pf being barren. Twd is one of the best games ever made, to me it's a perfect 10.

Installed my ColorDMD in my TWD Premium and my MET Pro last night. They are both great, but for TWD all I can say is wow. I've done many mods to this pin and by far this is one of the best. I have and have seen ColorDMDs in other pins before but this one is stunning. Well worth the money.

Did you purchase the LCD or LED? Also curious if it mounts flush or not?

The views on TWD were all bad the first year plus if it's existence.

Yes, mainly because of the code and bad sound package related to character voices, not quality. I only got mine in late 2015 when i felt both were addressed. I am hearing some very bad stories about pf quality and the overall package on bm66, not just code. Nowhere near being worth what they are asking for it.

Does anyone have a fix for the Well Walker well cracking and peeling?

I bought those "walker pants" and those lasted about 1 day before breaking apart...

Get a TWD! I say pro, but some can't get past the LE enjoyment factor. That said, IF BM66 ever gets good, like TWD good, there will be plenty to buy as the production line will be moving heavily with them. If it remains bad, then there will be plenty to be had on the secondary market at a discount.

Why buy such an unfinished product? Go with something proven, TWD!

Not sure if Lyman fixed the code or not but when I had my TWD prem, if you disabled the xbow it would disable the mode completely so you couldn't play it like a pro.

Not sure if it has been mentioned , but it IS possible to combine inlane X with Crossbow by missing the initial crossbow shot and then having it roll over the inlane X during the grace period. Only major shots stop the crossbow shot-making time limit.

Good luck with that haha. But yeah that would work.

Buy a new Met Prem from Pinball Heaven and I'll swap it for my No.321 TWD LE!

TWD is brilliant, but fancy a change.

I purchased the LCD. The quality is top notch, there have been some discussions on the LED from those who don't think that it is as nice as the LCD, and it was in stock. It does not mount flush, but it's the same as has been used by ColorDMD for quite some time so it works well as mounted.

Unless Batman 66 is a dream theme for you, I would take TWD (pro, prem or LE) over it in a heartbeat. Played one at a distributor's recently and thought it was awful. Incredibly dull layout and practically no toys aside from the crane. They have balls releasing such a cheap game at an inflated price.

And thank you people for chiming in on the differences on the pro/prem. Was considering trading my pro for a premium, but a friend called me up and offered up his LE. I jumped on it. Love it and glad I upgraded. Still love the pro, but it's hard to go back after the upgrades on the premium/LE.

My cat nor I know how to use the walker bombs. Time to re-read the rules.

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Im really itching to get a color display for my TWD pro looks very cool

Thanks! I always have leaned towards the LCD. My only issue has been that they dont mount flush. Can you tell me how much of a gap is there? Is it noticeable from straight on or at angles?

Most of what I've read is that the LED is preferred on LED games. It really pops. But hi res junkies prefer the LCD. LEDs sold out, that should tell you their popularity.

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where can i get the crossbow apron?

I like the option that LCD gives where you can do 2 forms of "dots" as well as hi res..

The LED is nice but I dont want "brighter" which is why most people go for the LED it seems. To me, it seems the LCD will do what the LED does and more, so thats where my head is at..

Does the LED do DotsXL?

No, which is why the LCD is my preference

And it's interesting. No DotsXL which many people like and yet most reviews from those who have both versions (led and lcd) generally have preferred the LED version in their newer games. The LED versions have been sold out there for a while now.

I suspect you'll regret that move!

From straight on, you can't even notice the gap. You can see it from an angle, but it's honestly no big deal.

You're probably right. Must've been the Peroni talking!

The Walking Dead Pro that I bought from a forum member also had those "walker pants" and I've noticed them breaking apart also. I might replace them down the track and put extra mylar or something over them.

I don't remember anyone ever preferring LED, haven't even seen a video. TBH I really would like to see a video of LED before I'd commit to purchasing.

Lots of buyers on the forum and a few videos as well. Check the LED DMD threads, especially the thread put up when it was released.

Yea, I will probably end up doing the same as when you buy them, it comes with 2 sets of those "pants".

I havent read that. From what ive seen, most prefer the LCD. Havent gone through the whole thread though:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/colordmd-lcd-versus-led

My advice would be to just go with bare metal. I've been playing with bare metal for years now.

Soon enough I wont have a choice hahaha.

You would think they would have figured a better option for this since that well takes more abuse than anywhere else on the table.

Video of an LED display probably wouldn't represent it very well. You really have to see one in person and see how you like it.

agreed, here is some LED on my ToM.

I prefer the LED, going for LED on TWD when Randy gets more stock.

if you say so. All I read were people loving the LED, haven't seen a single video of LED. Read the lcd/led thread, the color dmd announcement thread and the twd thread. Maybe I missed it but it seems to be very one way for LCD and almost zero mention of led at all.

Well said, and I couldn't agree more.

Lots of LED love there. I pasted some LED quotes on the first page alone. Lots of info now and good info on both options. As epthegeek mentions LED just doesn't video well, though there is some video there, and comparison to LCD by the same videographer.

Not at all. Here's some quotes from the first page alone. I like the quote that describes the LED light option as a preference, just like having LED lights in a game. I love LED lights in games and most people do (including upgrading some of my games to LED PF lighting). But not everyone is the same and there are options for all tastes, with each having their merits. The LCD is a great option with some unique strengths.

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quotes from the LED colordmd thread, first page.

Not seeing anything mentioning a Walking Dead led v lcd comparison or any led video of Walking Dead at all. As far as I'm concerned some games look better using lcd and others look better using led.

So you specifically want a TWD comparison, that specificity helps. Since the LED dmd option was sold out before the TWD rom was released there is likely not going to be a video posted for a while.

Everyone has their own preferences. Personally, I like what the LED dmd offers for TWD. There are a lot of happy LCD buyers using it on TWD at this time too.

Any of the 4 Billion guys care to give a rough outline of their game strategy? I'd sure be interested in learning something.

Just installed mine. It looks awesome.

Fyi, mezelmods seem to have the tower mod back in their shop.

Score big in modes, multiballs... --> high multikill value

For example score 100M in barn, score 100M in riot. This alone makes a multikill value worth a lot (5% or 10% of the modes total?). So if you have for example a 20M multikill and you shoot it quite a lot with multipliers, this can add up quite nicely.
20M x 3 (inlane multiplier) + double playfield = 120M a shot

And in competition mode, multikill values do not reset after Horde so this is a very important setting (you can change it as desired).

Next to that, terminus, horde and LMS count big.

But then again, you have to play it all to get to those billions

Technically this is not true.

You can intentionally brick the shot out of the crossbow and if it goes down the return lane to trigger the X multiplier you can still shoot a successful crossbow shot off the flipper in that grace period

LOL! This seems like a bug in the code to me. As soon as you trigger a playfield switch, shouldn't it end the crossbow mode?

Main shots yes. Small switch hits (popbumpers, prison targets, slingshots, inlanes, etc...) not.

A disabled crossbow on a premium/le will not act as a pro, you cannot make any crossbow shots in a game with a disabled crossbow.

Drop targets, well walker and prison targets end crossbow mode - meaning you need to make the shot cleanly

Is there a rule sheet for TWDLE 1.56 ? Thanks