... and my "Crew" card printed:

"The Walking Dead Custom Pinball Card - Crew" (STERN) printed in chrome vinyl with gloss protective lamination (photo 1).
https://www.zonaarcade.com/fotos/artes/The%20Walking%20Dead%20Custom%20Pinball%20Card%20Crew%20print1.jpg
The Walking Dead Custom Pinball Card Crew print1.JPG
"The Walking Dead Custom Pinball Card - Crew" (STERN) printed in chrome vinyl with gloss protective lamination (photo 2).
https://www.zonaarcade.com/fotos/artes/The%20Walking%20Dead%20Custom%20Pinball%20Card%20Crew%20print2.jpg
The Walking Dead Custom Pinball Card Crew print2.JPG

If you want to check design details of my "Crew" card, here are some screenshots:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/twd-club-only-walkers-not-welcome/page/142#post-4652705

I take bigger screenshots and photos, click to enlarge images (and click again on display image mode if it is necessary) for avoid blur effect of pinside´s miniatures.

Regards

All double flipping does is start the magnet pulse early. Per Borg, a quarter turn of the magnet worked for me.

Isn't this just a simple science lesson - change the magnet orientation and the ball path will change? Not sure why folks that complain about SDTM haven't tried this. Many TWD do not suffer from this issue at all (like mine) but the one I used to play on location did it frequently - frustrating for sure.

We need someone to test this with a thin clear box and some iron shavings. Record it with a slo-motion camera and see if anything useful is learned.

Slide save works almost every time for me.

Me too.Hardest bit is getting that damn nut loose so you can.

Yeah I had to use a big ass plumber wrench. Haha

Any links to how to do this, I haven't removed or moved a magnet before? Don't you want to keep it flush with the playfield?

Not this shit again.

I don’t think it works like that. I believe the direction of the ball is determined by the pulse of the magnet and where the ball is in relation to the magnet when that happens.
For instance the magnet turns on, holds the ball in the center during the video sequence. Then the magnet turns off, the ball starts to fall off the magnet and it turns back on and off to pull the ball back up again.
Rotating the magnet 1/4 turn could work if the magnet is at a slight slant and that slant moves away from center from the turn. Otherwise I can’t understand why that would work.

This also is snake oil. That's not how the magnet works. But if it makes you guys happy, then enjoy your placebos.

Loosen the nut (1 1/8” wrench, or big ass pipe wrench lol) and then you can turn the magnet with a large flathead screwdriver. Then retighten the nut to lock the magnet in place.
It’ll raise and lower the magnet, so make sure when you reassemble it is flush to the playfield.

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Lift playfield. There’s a huge nut that is under there that surrounds the magnet core. Take that off. Then just turn the core with a big flat head screwdriver a quarter turn right or left. It will still be flush with the playfield. Then put the nut back on.

I can’t explain to you how it worked for me, it just did. Went from 100% sdtm drains to zero. Guess I just got lucky.

Can you check the edges of your magnet to the playfield to see if it has a slight lean in any direction. Even if it’s flush, I imagine a very small lean could help the ball roll just enough to never send it STDM.

Also how do you turn the magnet 1/4 rotation without it making the magnet sunken or raised from the playfield?

Yep I’m sure that’s a possibility too.

Magnet cores are cheap too. I bet replacing it every couple thousand plays would help as well.

Thanks! LOL, I just looked and my biggest wrench or socket I have is 1 1/16 , what are the odds!

chuckwurt

I'm hoping to "get lucky" too!

Well that's two of us that got lucky.

Oh look, it's the guy who knows everything about pinball again. How did that work out for you in the Iron Maiden thread? LMAO

Hint, it ended up with you apologizing for your "stupidity" because you are a "moron" and I was "absoultely right". You were "humbled" after finding out that I was correct, even after you told me that I was "literally wrong".

I'm still waiting for you to post a video (as you offered to do) where you proclaim your ignorance to the masses by misunderstanding how pinball works and then arguing about it like an asshole.

I sure did apologize because I was wrong. Perhaps you could learn from that in this scenario? It pulses the same no matter if you wait out the animation or fast forward it.

As for the turning of the magnet core, if this is the case then why don't they do it at the factory? Sincere question.

Edit: why is it okay that this guy is making personal attacks here? I literally took the high road in an entirely different thread and he's being a fucking baby.

I think the magnet changes as the game breaks in.

My simple solution is to start slightly shimmying the machine left/right when the text shows up after the zombie gets whacked by the crowbar. The ball ends up getting released heading left or right and very rarely (like almost never) SDTM.

magnet works for me with the double flip.

I agree with this assessment!

This morning my wife went Black Friday shopping and I decided to see if I could reduce the constant Prison Magnet SDTM shots on my TWD.

It took 8 different setups, but I think I got it. Unfortunately the solution is not universal and the cause and effect is unknown. Here’s the story anyway;

I wanted to see if rotating the magnet and/or having an slight pitch in any direction, had an effect on the ball. I made sure the game was leveled right to left. The pitch is as seen in the photos.

The baseline for how often the ball went STDM on my game was very high, 75% is a conservative estimate. If you didn’t make a move on the game, you were toast.

Attempt #1
Rotate the whole assembly 180 degrees.
Magnet is slightly high on the right.
Results:
4 SDTM out of 12. 6 out of 12 hit the very tip of either flipper and went down the middle.

Attempt #2
Rotate magnet 1/4 turn.
Magnet is slightly high in the back.
Results:
8 SDTM out of 8. Yikes

Attempt #3
Rotate the assembly 180 degrees.
Magnet is slightly low in the back.
Results:
0 SDTM out of 16. After 16 successful attempts in a row, I played a game and realized the ball wasn’t registering shots to the prison off the flipper.

Attempt #4
Raise core 1/8 turn, added washer under front right screw to level the magnet.
Results:
4 SDTM out of 4

Attempt #5
Remove washer
Magnet is high at 2 o clock.
Results:
7 SDTM out of 28.

Attempt #6
Rotate 180degrees
Results:
6 SDTM out of 24

Attempt #7
Raise the magnet 1/8 turn and add washers to the front 2 screws in an attempt to recreate #3 without as much hop.
Results:
Ball hops and doesn’t register prison hits

Attempt #8 Success!
Remove washers. Adjust the magnet back to level. The magnet is slightly high at 8 o clock.
Results:
SDTM 2 out of 35 and counting.

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What happened when you replaced the magnet core?

Haha. I know my post was long and mostly useless info. I guess I just wanted to let people know it’s possible to make the prison magnet a lot better by adjusting it. (Even though it’s frustrating and can take many tries)
The game is so much more enjoyable when the drains are my fault.

Still @ only 2SDTM throws over 42 attempts!

Hi, Quick question.
Got my TWD Premium and installed the Cleland sound/voice mode right away before playing the original code.
Finding it hard to learn the rules etc.
Was wondering if the original callouts help you learn the game easier. Do the Cleland callouts take away valuable info needed while playing?

If so, I should probably install the original code and learn the game better and later on install the Cleland code.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thank you.

shoot the drops... then shoot them again... and again and again

then watch this stream:

no way
you will learn main rules of the game by just playing it... or why not, watch few videos first

If anyone's curious, this is what TWD Pro looks like with LED OCD:

Pretty sure delay is set to 1 in this example.

Thanks very much. That video was awesome. Much easier to understand now.

Can anyone pm me a link for the cleland code with the nine inch nail and slayer tied in for the pro??

Thanks for any help you can provide

Yesterday I installed my governor's fish tank topper
The game awarded me because I got to play Siege together with Terminus.
Both very fine modes, and damn Siege has some very nice effects and sounds.
Too bad bicycle girl kicked in too I bricked terminus but completed Siege on the next ball. Thank god it carries over.

Didn't think I'd spark a whole magnet string again! I've done it all, rotated the core, rotated the magnet, double flip (yes, at the right time), alternate flips, a sacrificial goat, it's all chance.

Some days the magnet barely pulses but it's just enough to move the ball one way or the other. Other days, I swear I can hear the game say "f*ck you HAHAHAHAHA" then proceed to push the ball SDTM. I think it's purely in coding, because I'm sure i've heard Lyman mention something in an interview somewhere about this problem (i think it was in the video with Nate Shivers??)

I have an XMLE and the Wolverine magnet ALWAYS throws the ball around, never a straight drop down. I don't think it has anything to do with hardware. I think it needs to be programmed to pulse and throw. At least have a setting that has Prison Magnet low, med, high so that way you can choose to get screwed or not. Or a 1 sec ball save. TNA has like a .8 sec ball save when it comes flying out of the scoop for SDTM drains.

Be interested to hear what happens when you replace the core.

Did you guys try to set your game a little steeper? So the ball hangs more on the magnet?
Mine hardly goes stdm and actively throws the ball around, sometimes registering a prison hit, i even had two hits once.

My guess is, the steeper the game, the faster the ball goes away from the magnet core between the pulse cycles, that way creating more momentum.

Is anyone able to get extra balls by hitting the tower? My tower awards an EB at 10 hits and then every 30 after. Like lol, yeah.... good luck with that.

I had yesterday... I focus on the shot, especially during multiballs. I often play Horde focusing on it too (next to my regular shot).
It's mostly the extra ball I need to reach LMS.

I have NEVER gotten this EB awarded. It's impossible

I really dont think it's a hardware issue.

I'm thinking that the only thing that would explain the differences between machines would be 1) hardware and/or 2) setup. We are running the same code (at least I hope everyone's updated). I know others have chimed in and add me to the list to say that I have almost no stmd drains from the prison magnet. I would venture to say maybe like 1 in 50 at most and possibly even better than that. I really feel for you and the rest who have this issues because it would frustrate me to no end.

Software would mean its 100% the same behavior for everyone right?

When I share my experience, as a tournament player, I'm not just talking about my own machine either. I have played dozens of TWDs, all over the northeast (Toronto, Cleveland, Buffalo, NYC, Pittsburgh). None of them have prison magnet drains as bad as what is being described in this thread.

I know this may sound harsh, but I do believe that player skill is factoring in here as well. Weaker players will miss a lot more savable balls, and consider them to be unsavable magnet drains.

I’m no slouch. At all. The game I had at home was 100% sdtm from the magnet. Straight up and down like a rocket to the drain.

Even if there was no tilt rod in the game and it was on pinskates, you’d probably still not be able to save it.

Yeah I know, seen you play, I'm sure your machine required an adjustment.

But it's like the 'drain out of the pops' thing, skill level is a big factor. Along with setup.

Edit: To clarify I'm not saying that people are making this up. Some (all?) machines need adjusting to play correctly, but pulsing early via double flip will always be a part of the solution as it starts the side to side movement earlier.

Do you have any evidence to support this? How is 'the pulse' different? Does the code pulse the magnet a certain way if the animation completes and pulse it a different way if the flippers are activated? How did you determine how the pulse is implemented, and how it's different under certain circumstances?

Curious. When the ball comes down from the pop bumpers I often wind up with the ball going perfectly straight down the middle. Anyone else get this?

Yep. Need to get REALLY good at nudging so that the ball bumps off the guide to the the left of the right ramp so that it feeds the left flipper.

Make sure the game is leaning a tad to the right first though.

Jesus, just watched McSirTuna's full tutorial on Buffalo Pinball... I've been so ignorant about so many things! This game really is the gift that keeps on giving

I’ve only watched two of his tutorials... TWD and MET, both are amazing! If I owned more games I’d watch more of his tutorial