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TV options for an outdoor area -- suggestions?


By TractorDoc

10 months ago



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    “Have you successfully used an indoor television outside?”

    • Yes 7 votes
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    #1 10 months ago

    I have not bought a television in over 10 years, so I am quite behind when it comes to the latest and greatest in TV technology. The Mrs. is wanting to put a small television in an outdoor porch/living room and I'm trying to research options.

    I am not concerned as much about precipitation; it will be out of the elements but more so temperature fluctuation/condensation. I have looked at outdoor vs. "standard" TVs and have also noticed the price difference -- I realize outdoor TVs are more expensive for a reason.

    Anyone else using a standard television for occasional outdoor use? What are the better options nowadays. . . LED, LCD, Plasma????

    Picture of the area:

    IMG_7946 (resized).JPG

    Television will be in the left corner area, behind the flower box.

    #3 10 months ago

    I carry mine in and out each day I want to use it. I have an HDMI cable there that has a cap on it to keep water and spiders out, and a wall mount I can quickly hang it and remove it from.

    TV's are super light these days. A 32" TV is maybe 6lbs.. Easy to move.

    #4 10 months ago

    We bought a 65” LED for our back patio. For the price we paid (<$1k), we can replace it 4x and still come out cheaper than buying 1 outdoor tv.

    We paid $30 for the replacement warranty from Costco. If for any reason it stops working in the next 5 years, back to the store it goes.

    Check out the Cheetah wall mounts on Amazon. They’re super cheap and easy to install. They even give you an HDMI cable

    #6 10 months ago

    I have clients with TVs on their decks. They are covered and don't get wet obviously, but they've never had one fail. It's surprising to me with the humidity we get around here, but they just keep on working.

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    #7 10 months ago
    Quoted from Pinless:

    A down vote for sharing a tv option? Wow

    Telling some one to buy something and then return it to the store after you have improperly used it and abused it is just.....terrible.

    You are abusing warranty programs and are the reason Amazon and other companies ban people who return too many things. You dont see an issue with that?

    #8 10 months ago
    Quoted from tamoore:

    I carry mine in and out each day I want to use it. I have an HDMI cable there that has a cap on it to keep water and spiders out, and a wall mount I can quickly hang it and remove it from.

    This is the approach I was considering. In reality we'd probably only use it outdoors to watch a movie or so she can watch her afternoon programs. I'm not a big TV watcher but do like to have it on sometimes for background noise -- usually the radio does the job but there is something neat about adding the visual aspect.

    Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

    #9 10 months ago

    I've lived in Madagascar, where it is very hot and humid. Most people don't have indoor plumbing or even running water, but a lot of people have flat screen TVs. The windows are just wooden shutters. There is no climate control in the house. For all intents and purposes their homes are covered porches.

    Their TVs work and the humidity is insane. They don't have extreme cold, but you might be ok having it out there.

    Best Buy offers coverage plans that include damage for any reason. It's not abuse if you purchase a protection plan, which is different from using a manufacturer defect warranty.

    #10 10 months ago
    Quoted from Chitownpinball:

    Telling some one to buy something and then return it to the store after you have improperly used it and abused it is just.....terrible.
    You are abusing warranty programs and are the reason Amazon and other companies ban people who return too many things. You dont see an issue with that?

    Improperly used and abused? Abusing the warranty? The Costco salesman recommended this route.

    It works great, and they made $$ selling a warranty. I think Costco will be ok.

    #11 10 months ago
    Quoted from Pinless:

    Improperly used and abused? Abusing the warranty? The Costco salesman recommended this route.
    It works great, and they made $$ selling a warranty. I think Costco will be ok.

    A non outdoor TV...outdoors. That is improper use.

    Yes, that is abusing the warranty. I bet you dont put down on the warranty paper work "used outside now it doesnt work for some reason" because they would flag your ass and not issue any warranty.

    Thats a con artists game you are playing.

    Sure, I bet they will be ok. Karma is a bitch though.

    #12 10 months ago

    Just for fun, I pulled up the manual of any old LG OLED. Nowhere in the manual does it indicate you can't install it outside. It says keep away from water, but that's it.

    Also, as Zavadoza mentioned, it's easy enough to buy a cheap warranty that covers any type of damage.

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    #13 10 months ago
    Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

    Just for fun, I pulled up the manual of any old LG OLED. Nowhere in the manual does it indicate you can't install it outside. It says keep away from water, but that's it.
    Also, as Zavadoza mentioned, it's easy enough to buy a cheap warranty that covers any type of damage.

    https://www.cepro.com/article/install_indoor_tv_outside_porch1

    #5....well all of them. Case closed.

    #14 10 months ago

    Show me where it says you can't install this TV outside. Or even where they give you temperature and humidity specifications.

    http://gscs-b2c.lge.com/downloadFile?fileId=1S8w6MC9t08gLzRKfE4A

    It doesn't. It has about every other "Don't do this and don't do that" disclaimer in there (like don't shove a metal bar inside the TV), but nothing about outdoor installation.

    #16 10 months ago

    I'm so outta here....you people need some friends or just get out of the house or something....are you guys really debating this...???!!!...Carry on...haven't heard this in awhile...."Ohh Pinside".......peace the Feck out..............Joey

    #17 10 months ago

    Lots of sites do state that if you use a tv outdoors, you void the warranty. However none state exactly what “outdoors” means. Does it mean a roof? Does it mean 4 walls? Both? Seems pedantic but when you’re arguing about warranty it’s important

    However - TVs are cheap. Get one at a pawn shop for $50, you’re done. Get one of these if you’re concerned about moisture:
    amazon.com link »

    Just make sure the tv has enough ventilation while using it

    #18 10 months ago

    They have an operating range for environmental factors.

    Samsung TVs can operate safely in rooms or areas in which temperatures range from 50° F to 104° F (10° C to 40° C). Temperatures outside the listed range will negatively affect the operation of your TV.

    Samsung TVs can be stored unused at temperatures ranging from -4° to 113° Fahrenheit (-20° to 45° Centigrade). Storing your TV at temperatures outside this range can damage your TV.

    Humidity range 10-80%.

    Nowhere does it say it can’t be used outdoors.

    #19 10 months ago

    This was not meant to be a controversial thread. . . just interested in what others have done for an outdoor television situation. I'm not wanting to spend thousands for an "outdoor" television; if a standard TV would only last a couple months outside then it is obviously not worth leaving one there. Several responses suggest that a regular TV could work -- I realize I am taking a chance with the location but honestly if it does die that is on me, warranty or not.

    Thanks again for the suggestions, I appreciate the help. I added a poll for a simple Yes or No answer.

    #20 10 months ago

    Outdoor TV? Those are called iPad/tablets. Run the app or site from your TV provider and access all TV.

    #21 10 months ago
    Quoted from TractorDoc:

    This was not meant to be a controversial thread. . . just interested in what others have done for an outdoor television situation. I'm not wanting to spend thousands for an "outdoor" television; if a standard TV would only last a couple months outside then it is obviously not worth leaving one there. Several responses suggest that a regular TV could work -- I realize I am taking a chance with the location but honestly if it does die that is on me, warranty or not.
    Thanks again for the suggestions, I appreciate the help. I added a poll for a simple Yes or No answer.

    I don't think it is possible to post here on Pinside and not see people go to battle over something. That is one of the reasons I am spending less & less time here every week and will likely end up just closing my account at some point soon.

    #22 10 months ago
    Quoted from PoMC:

    Outdoor TV? Those are called iPad/tablets. Run the app or site from your TV provider and access all TV.

    Definitely want to have a 55 inch screen to watch sports and then still use a tablet to surf during commercials!!

    As for the OP question, don't buy an outdoor tv. I've had my 55 inch samsung outside for over two years now and no issues at all. Now it is covered by a roof but the sides of the room outside are completely open (it doesn't get directly hit though with rain, etc). No issues yet!

    #23 10 months ago

    I had this conversation last weekend with a friend that has a hotel right on the Gulf.
    So tons of humidity, rain, and salt water air....that rusts everything.
    The answer from him was to buy a TV knowing if it doesnt get stolen, it will last 4-5 years for him.
    You are in Ohio, so I wouldnt expect same issues.
    He buys $300-$400 sets on sale, he has a few around the hotel property, and feels fine at the amortized cost.
    Maybe this is of help.

    #24 10 months ago
    Quoted from TractorDoc:

    in an outdoor porch/living room

    It is interesting that you have an outdoor porch with what looks like no access to the inside of your home. Was there once a door? Was this once a screened in porch? Or was it once part of a wrap around porch?

    #25 10 months ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    I don't think it is possible to post here on Pinside and not see people go to battle over something.

    Oh yeah? Well, I think it IS possible to post here and not see people go to battle over things. Want to fight about it?

    #26 10 months ago
    Quoted from Darcy:

    It is interesting that you have an outdoor porch with what looks like no access to the inside of your home. Was there once a door? Was this once a screened in porch? Or was it once part of a wrap around porch?

    Don't have the before pictures here at work to prove it, but I doubt you'd recognize the house when I bought the place. The original structure is a stone foundation with barn beam timbers supporting the floors -- originally built in the 1800s. Cool history but eliminates any chance of pinball machines in the basement. Entrance to the basement is actually behind the flower box in the picture -- stairs go down to the left. There was originally a door behind the couch area in the picture that led to a small kitchen/laundry room area; I had to rework the entire floor plan of the house because it was chopped up between the main living area and a mother in law suite. The wife's closet lives there now and the master bath sits behind the window. Worked on the inside for two years before moving in, finally getting a chance to work on the outside.
    Picture from earlier in the year gives some perspective of door to porch distance -- not to far a walk. Painted the posts/added new railing to keep the dogs in since this picture.

    IMG_7545 (resized).JPG

    #27 10 months ago

    I'd avoid plasma duento glare, and plan to pull it in when temp drop in the fall. Longs it dry, can't see an issue.

    #28 10 months ago

    Regular tv will work fine, we have one 10ft from our salt water pool under our cabana. No issues and we leave it up year round.

    They don’t use outdoor TVs in rv’s either so that should tell you something.

    #29 10 months ago
    Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

    I had this conversation last weekend with a friend that has a hotel right on the Gulf.
    So tons of humidity, rain, and salt water air....that rusts everything.
    The answer from him was to buy a TV knowing if it doesnt get stolen, it will last 4-5 years for him.
    You are in Ohio, so I wouldnt expect same issues.
    He buys $300-$400 sets on sale, he has a few around the hotel property, and feels fine at the amortized cost.
    Maybe this is of help.

    That's how I would do it. No need to get fancy with latest and greatest. Maybe even pick up something used cheap. I would just be worried about storms where wind pushes rain sideways. We get a lot of nasty weather where I am at. Had a bad storm hit just last Saturday night.

    #30 10 months ago

    I started reading through the posts then it went to an argument, so forgive me for just moving to the bottom to share what I've done. I took an "old" Sony Bravia that I was replacing in the house and mounted it on a cheap wall mount in my unheated garage. I live in the northeast and the temps can range from -20 to 100. It has been out there for 3 years I believe without issue. Obviously water is the big killer here, but the cold temps have not stopped my 10ish year hold 40" Bravia.

    Sony Bravia (resized).jpg

    #31 10 months ago

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    #32 10 months ago
    Quoted from jawjaw:

    That's how I would do it. No need to get fancy with latest and greatest. Maybe even pick up something used cheap. I would just be worried about storms where wind pushes rain sideways. We get a lot of nasty weather where I am at. Had a bad storm hit just last Saturday night.

    Thanks, forgot about that...Clear plastic guards are used in any exposed side.....

    #33 10 months ago

    I suspect an inexpensive TV would last at least a year outside as long as it does not get water directly on it. You could get a very cheap 40 inch TV ($200 to $300) and see how it goes.

    #34 10 months ago

    I'd vote not to ugly up your beautiful outdoors with a tv at all. Maybe buy an iPad that can be easily carried outdoors and stood up on a table if video is really necessary.

    #35 10 months ago

    I have a game tv that’s in a detached un-heated garage. In the middle of winter when it’s -25c I’ll walk into the garage turn on the heater and tv at the same time. I’ve never had an issue of it being to cold for it to work. If your concerned about water then wrap it in a garbage bag before a big storm and make sure that it’s dry before turning it on.

    For my outdoor watching I use an iPad, or on Friday nights we’ll have a bonfire in the backyard and use a projector to watch a movie on the garage wall. This works well at night, but won’t help in the day

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