translite bulb stopped working, so switched out the bulb, but still no light! The original bulb was a 20W 24", I put in an 18W 24", does it have to be a 20W only?
Thanks!
Lee
translite bulb stopped working, so switched out the bulb, but still no light! The original bulb was a 20W 24", I put in an 18W 24", does it have to be a 20W only?
Thanks!
Lee
It sounds like your condenser is possibly out. Luckily, they're cheap and easy to replace.
There's a cylindrical part about 1/2" to 3/4" in diameter in the upper left corner of the backbox (I think). Follow the wires. Twist it out and take it to Home Depot. They should have a replacement for you there.
If that's not it, it's the ballast, but my guess is it's your condenser.
STILL cant get this damn backbox light to come on, purchased a 30-40 W condenser/fluorescent starter and a new 18 W bulb (originals were 30 W starter and 20W bulb), but NO light.
Any ideas? Do I absolutely need same stats in parts to get it to work? (30W starter & 20W bulb)
Help! Many thanks
Lee
Check to see if the 120v supply is still plugged in. If you follow the black supply wires from the transformer over and down the left side of the back box there is a crimp on wire disconnect about half way down. This has come apart in my TSPP before leading me to much consternation before I actually figured it out. Solid troubleshooting technique on my part, with a multimeter, would have easily found it in about 30 seconds but for whatever reason I farted around replacing components to no avail.
Have you replaced the ballast?
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=232&pg=1
There's nothing to that circuit - ballast, starter, tube. If you change the tube and starter and still have nothing then the ballast is bad.
You can get the correct ballast at Home Cheapo for about $7.
viperrwk
THANK YOU everybody, BUT, where the heck is it in the cab? Have yet to locate it.
Also, am I safe with a 18W bulb (original 20W) and 20-30W fluorescent starter?
Lee
Quoted from deafdumbkid:THANK YOU everybody, BUT, where the heck is it in the cab? Have yet to locate it.
If you mean the ballast, it should be in the upper right of the head. See the link below. Above the caution sticker. If needed, follow the wires from the starter and the bulb sockets.
http://ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4674&picno=47533&zoom=1
No polarity for a ballast, but it is high voltage. I solder and shrink wrap new ones. One or both sides may need to be tinned before soldering them together.
Quoted from deafdumbkid:Also, am I safe with a 18W bulb (original 20W) and 20-30W fluorescent starter?
Probably not. All the parts are cheap. Find a similar ballast, then pick a bulb size listed for it. Starter too.
Quoted from deafdumbkid:THANK YOU everybody, BUT, where the heck is it in the cab? Have yet to locate it.
Also, am I safe with a 18W bulb (original 20W) and 20-30W fluorescent starter?
Lee
Section 4, chapter 1, page 60 of the manual. Item 11 (10 in the pic) is the starter and 12 is the ballast:
http://mirror2.ipdb.org/files/4674/Stern_2003_The_Simpsons_Pinball_Party_Manual.pdf
viperrwk
I've started switching mine over to LED:
http://www.polar-ray.com/24-LED-T8-Tube--Frosted-Diffuser_p_181.html
The color is a bit cooler than flourescent, but it's nice to have the backglass light up immediately. Don't forget to bypass the ballast if you do this.
Quoted from swampfire:Don't forget to bypass the ballast if you do this.
If the LED tube is "inductive ballast-compatible" then all you have to do is pull the starter and install.
Nonetheless, bypassing the ballast is a good thing because it saves energy and you'd have to pull the ballast anyway and rewire once the ballast goes bad.
viperrwk
Hmmm, can I simply use the above LED bulb after removing my starter? Or would ballast have to come out?
Thanks!
Lee
Quoted from deafdumbkid:Hmmm, can I simply use the above LED bulb after removing my starter? Or would ballast have to come out?
Thanks!
Lee
I believe that is correct. The ballast is the transformer that gives the voltage that you need. The starter is the part that is flourescent specific.
Quoted from deafdumbkid:Hmmm, can I simply use the above LED bulb after removing my starter? Or would ballast have to come out?
Thanks!
Lee
No.
The page says must remove ballast before installing and does not say inductive ballast compatible from what I can see.
There are other tubes out there that all you would need to do is remove the starter.
viperrwk
Actually, just ordered that bulb
removing Ballast - any advice on doing safely? never removed one, dont wanna mess anything up, kind of dont yet see how it removes yet.........How does it release? That is how is it secured? Thanks guys, any help appreciated
Quoted from deafdumbkid:Actually, just ordered that bulb
removing Ballast - any advice on doing safely? never removed one, dont wanna mess anything up, kind of dont yet see how it removes yet.........How does it release? That is how is it secured? Thanks guys, any help appreciated
Removal should just be dealing with some screws, wire nuts, and twisted wire. Most of them aren't much more secured than that. I guess you could run into some solder, but there's nothing really complicated about replacing these. Just put the new one in the exact same way as the old one, and you'll be good.
Quoted from deafdumbkid:Actually, just ordered that bulb
removing Ballast - any advice on doing safely? never removed one, dont wanna mess anything up, kind of dont yet see how it removes yet.........How does it release? That is how is it secured? Thanks guys, any help appreciated
Sorry missed your earlier post - too much action on this forum...
You're better off pulling the ballast anyway. As Jar said it's easy. Follow the link I posted earlier that shows you where the ballast is located. There are two wires that come from the ballast that are connected on each side by a wire nut. Undo the nuts, remove the ballast, connect the two remaining loose wires with a wire nut. Pull the starter - done. Instant light, lower power consumption, less heat in the backbox. Bob's you're uncle.
viperrwk
I don't remove the ballast; I just bypass it (disconnect the wires) so it's easy to reverse the change. I'll try to take a few pics tomorrow.
CHRIST this is frustrating
disconnected wires for ballast (thanks swampfire), removed the starter, put in the new LED bulb, fired up STILL NO BACKLIGHT. I've checked every connection I can. Any ideas? Does the backlight bulb have a dedicated fuse? Are the fixtures bad?
Thanks, HELP
Lee
Ah...it's not enough to disconnect the ballast, you have to bypass it. I'll snap a picture when I get home.
Ah - nothing like newbies fiddling with the mains wiring - I would suggest caution and if in doubt get an electrician or technician to do it and perhaps show you for next time.
Don't end up frizzled or with a fire on your hands for the sake of $50
Quoted from deafdumbkid:ah, so its just the black to the red, the 2 capped wires?.........
Yes - when you disconnect the ballast you break the circuit - joining the black wire that was on one side of the ballast to the red wire on the other completes it again.
viperrwk
circuit complete, working like a champ, thanks everyone, excuse my obtuse electronics skill building
Quoted from deafdumbkid:circuit complete, working like a champ, thanks everyone, excuse my obtuse electronics skill building
A photo to see how it illuminates the backbox would be nice...
viperrwk
http://s1271.beta.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle74/media/IMG_3492_zps4175cd1a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
http://s1271.beta.photobucket.com/user/gargoyle74/media/IMG_3493_zps5bfd5313.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
LED lamp is a *little* over powered, but still a bold light, and more reliable
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