Gonna see a tspp tomorrow of which I got some pictures. Anyone see anything strange where I should be aware of? What to double check?

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How could I miss the TV?

Price was still to be negotiated but close to 4 KEUR was the idea of the seller.

This prior to noticing the missing TV ....

Cancelled appointment. Useless to go there without it being complete. Can live with a missing knife at Itchy, plastic couch can be bought but the TV??

I have no idea as I didn't go. The seller posted an add on a local Kind of eBay and it was sold in a few hours .... apparently I am to critical

Anyway, something will pop up sooner or later. Thanks for the advise guys

After a search of 6 months finally gonna pick up a TSPP tonight. Is a decent one (approx 1,5 years routed, 10+ years same person) so if carefull insopection this evening doesnt bring any surprises I am finally in. Watching Simpsons TVseries almost daily finally one of the best pins is going to be in my gameroom.

Keeping my fingers crossed nothing strange will happen tonight

Joined the club finally

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So, brought tspp upstairs and as the playfield was out anyway immediately installed the side blades which came unused with it. Look really nice, well designed

Ordered the rubbers for shopping and I will install a pin2dmd. Gonna be a nice tspp when I am finished

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I do have 1 question.

Found this odd piece of Mylar on the playfield. Don't see it on other playfield
Pictures. Is this Mylar normal at that spot? Cleaned it so it's now much less visible as in the picture.

It starts at the sirenes of the policecar and moves up to the right.

To scared to remove it, afraid I will damage the playfield there is no insert below however.

Anyone?

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Than last question. I noted much more reflection from the translite on the playfield glass as I am used with other pins. The upper part of the playfield really suffers from it.

I took pdi glass from my AC/DC to test and it's less but still visible. Anyone played with this issue to get it better? Recall someone installed another led tube?

Talked with the previous owner who had it for 12 yrs. It was already there when he bought it (routed for like 2 yrs). He has seen it with other TSPP's to, perhaps it is only there with early first run (this pin is stamped jan 2003).

Dont dare to remove it, just to scared I will damage the playfield

Have no experience with metal aprons from stern but with plastic aprons you can remove the stickers quite easily without damage and reuse them. Have you carefully tried if it loosens up of you lift it at a corner?

Work in progress

Is cleaning up nicely. Must also say that TSPP is a very easy machine to shop. Disassembling at least is easy and less than 2 hour job. Now the more hard part, putting is back together

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Knowing that TSPP was launched feb 2003 and seeing a playfield date of jan 21 2003 for sure this was a first run 8).

Is further more this handwritten revised note dating aug 2002 normal ??

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Wanted to show I am a man so removed it

I think it was not Mylar but just tape which was there for unknown reason. Removing it was just 5 minute job and no issues. Also found same tape on the apron. Is really puzzling why it was there but it's gone now without issues

Is this picture what you are looking for?

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Black block is still there. It's now covered with the side blade

Removing right ramp was easy. Just removing the screws and carefully lift it and that's it. Have no idea what is blocking it with you. Also remove the bulbs in the Backbord to get more space to work in.

Which black wire? I only see one running to the flasher in Homers head

So, first shopping is finished. Total cleaning, replacing black rubbers with white silicon. Colored sleeves. Sideblades and Backbord cals installed.

Stronger garage coil on order.

Next step is color pin2dmd display and that's it (for now at least )

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I have nothing against Colordmd but it's usd 450 against like usd 210 over here ..... Have seen pin2dmd in action in other pins and saw the YouTube done on tspp so good enough for me. Once finished I will make a video of it.

Yeah. Protection. Usually I am all over protection (all my new pins have cliffy and playfield protectors) but if the pin survived 14 yrs of play I am quite confident it will sustain my home use play for like a year I have it.

If i do it it will not only be pinbits but also cliffy ramp protector. Incl transport this will set me back another 100+ USD and wallet is empty for the moment. And of course I would than also need the plastic protectorset which sets me back another 100 usd. Has to stop somewhere .

That's a coincidence, I received mine yesterday. Agree that print quality is at best average and I wonder how long they will last. Anyway, worst case I remove them, they are not costly which makes it just acceptable.

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I also ordered the repro slingshot and outlane plastics. Print quality is OK but the color blue is darker. Can it be that the original plastics have become lighter through the years?

First Picture left is repro right is original. In real life the color difference is more noticeable

Second picture both slingshot and outlane plastics are repro

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Than I also ordered the stronger coil with them for the garage as per stern service bulletin.

First try it fried the transistor. So double checked all wiring. Tried old coil first which worked fine. Again replacement coil, made sure the wiring was correct (in relation to diode) and again the transistor fried, it smoked even. Resistance appeared to be around 4-5 Ohm so nothing there. However, as my garage works 99% fine with the old coil and decided not to fry a third transistor. So old coil back, wiring same and works fine.

What can be wrong here?

Hmmm. Interesting color choice. Dont think it's for me but curious to see pictures with everything assembled. Also in a line-up where all the rest is black I wonder how it looks.

Nice work. Don't think the pink armor is for me but good work it is

Where did you get the big decals on the cooling towers?

Thanks to the tip of another Pinsider a mod has been added to my TSPP

I choose purple color 2"

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Installed a pin2dmd today. Man, a real improvement over the orange colour. Looks really great.

Have a stream setup and will make a video to show it off.

For those interested in doing it to, you will need a longer ribbon cable between the dmd and pcb. The original one is (to) short.

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Interesting. Wanna share a picture of your setup?

Yep. A mess it is

The ribbon cable I had installed between dmd display and display board was much much shorter as the one I see here

Anyway, reccomend checking length of the ribbon cable in your tspp to make sure you have length enough.

So, as promised a gameplayvideo of the Pin2dmd in action. Looks in real life much more vivid as in video. Camera's and leds don't mix very well.

http://www.pinball.center/en/shop/pinball-parts-by-game/the-simpsons-pinball-party/3793/target-decals-for-the-simpsons-party-pinball?c=2156

Yep, Q20 it is. And the violet-yellow should go to the non-banded part of the diode.

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Mine is a 2003 model and must admit colors look more vibrant as yours so the theory of 2003 vibrant vs 2006 washed out could be true.

In regard to the extra plastic, can confirm mine has one to.

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I had this happen exactly the same. I tried it twice (and made 200 % sure the second time diode was properly installed) and fried q20 twice. Am betting your q20 is Fried again. As my garage was opening properly (i just swapped it as there was a service bulletin on it and coil is costing almost zero) I decided to leave in the original coil and didn’t investigate it further.

Only thing I did do was hooking up the coil to a lab power supply and at 20V it only consumed like 2A so a coil shortage is not there, resistance was also normal.

Strange strange

Thinking About adding speakerpanel Decals. Already have the side panels.

This one looks OK and a good combo with the sidepanels. Does anyone have a picture with it installed? Or with another speakerpanel decal which is still available?

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Am using a pin2dmd led and it looks great. Has nice contrast. See the remarks on to bright but with pin2dmd you can adjust brightness. Assume colordmd can do this to? Anyway, I tuned it down a lot and don’t find it to bright according to my taste. However, LCD gives you more opportunities (at the cost of less contrast) So if you go the colordmd route I think I Would go the LCD route.

Wanna see how mine looks? See

Sounds like a Switch which needs adjusting. The vibration caused by your flippers is closing the switch and thus popbumper is fired

Are you sure your overhead light dim to? It can’t be that the pinball draws so much power without a fuse blowing that you ceiling lights dim to.

Converted to 115VAC the current a flipper draws is neglible. Heck, a whole pin draws approx 300W and yours less because it’s ledded. Must power goes to the bulbs.

If your room is sensitive for this kind of power drain, yep, check house wiring befor it sets on fire ..... hook up an electric heater to the same wall outlet as the pin and see what happens. A heater draws way much more power as a pinball

When I spoke pinsound at an expo nov 2017 they did mention somebody was considering to make an updated sound set.

So who knows?

Are you sure he had a Hd soundtrack? It says an Hd audio soundboard which Pinsound is but that’s hardware. It doesn’t mean there was also a HD soundtrack is it ?

Pinsound still has some advantage. It is a better amplifier as original so even with same source it can slightly improve sound plus you can separately adjust cabinet and back box speakers to your liking.

But, must admit that spending this kind of cash for just the above is not something I would do. But some people have bigger wallets as others 8).

What it also interesting that you cant download the Legacy sounds from the Pinsound forum. If we would have those you could open them up on a PC and listen how advantage a Pinsound board would be with Original sounds with a better soundcard.

You get the possibility to swap sounds with higher quality sounds to your liking. See for instance what kind of magic Endprodukt has done with new soundmixes for Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park. Or how you can make your GnR sound with high quality MP3 in place of the 25 yr old low quality sound.

However, if you just again use the old sounds with Pinsound I can’t justify spending USD 500. And yes, in case your original soundboard is broken beyond repair Pinsound can be a good solution as replacement.

Colordisplay (regardless pin2dmd or colordmd) is the best mod for a Tspp indeed.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1073-sillyoldelf-mods/01072-the-simpson-pinball-party-cabinet-5x-decals-super-package

First step would be to check if the 5VDC is properly present. Sounds to me like you have an issue there

I almost never have stdm from ball launch. Try always to make the skillshot ofcourse but that doesn’t cause a stdm. At least not in my tspp. Is your game level?

And yep, I have ballsave on as with all my machines.

I have connected on pin to the left speaker input and the other one to the right speaker input. Pinballs are mono anyway so you can use a stereo sub for two pins

Did try upgraded speakers in my tspp but took them out again as difference was very small. Not worth the money or effort.

Have quite some experience with pinsound and like it a lot and allthough it does do improve iT Some for the real improvement an upgraded soundset is required. The quality of the standard sound samples is just bad

With a Stern this is known to happen more if you hold the flipperbutton to long.

Better is to put coin door ballsave ON in settings and open the coin door if you need time.

You are lucky but this is not uncommon. Problem is not that old batteries have no more voltage as that just means loading your settings as Highscore, no big deal. More of a problem is that old batteries can start leaking which is a costly matter.

Was working in the backbox when I suddenly noticed a loose pink colored wire. Have no idea if it belongs somewhere. Could it just be a spare unused wire? Pin functions fine.

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Thanks. As of don’t have a connector on J2 I looked it up In The manual and apparently it’s not really used besides UK or it goes to a tournament board I don’t have. So I can leave it as is but thanks again for the intel

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Ok. I think I need to set it on 10 balls and keep it for 20 years befor I can pull this off ..... and I still think I will need to take the glass off

Its indeed a beautiful machine. The yellow side rails and legs really look excellent.

Man, how do you do this? Quite an achievement. My GC is like 110M @ 5 balls .....

Grabbed some pics I had on my phone.

Durability is fine but material is thinner as with pinblades from for instance pingraffix. Think they will scratch more easy but I use protectors when lifting the playfield.

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A stern is easier as a BW is my op opinion

Just take some good pictures before taking the wires off. The keying should also avoid misplacing connectors as well as the cable harness ‘flow’. But I do always prior to switching it back on compare the work with the pictures and look if the colors of the cables match. Till now always OK.

Sounds interesting. How about a picture installed in a game?

Thanks. We can wait. Looks like I will prefer the one with pink though.

Afyet almost 2 yrs of ownership I finally managed to beat my own GC score I made on the test game I did at previous owner

Score after 3 balls plus 1 extra ball

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And score after 5 balls plus 1 extra ball. My favorite setting for a pin is 4 plus 1 extra max but with tspp I ha e set it on 5 just to get further in the game.

I had mysteryspot twice and Alien Invasion once. This GC was double of the previous one. This was a game everything came together

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Think you got it covered TSPPway besides the general pinball stuff like leaking batteries, broken entry on ramps and broken plastics. But I would like to add check extra the mini display on the upper playfield. If it has button wear I am guessing it is not a HUO.

Nice setup. We share 3 out of 4 pins and the fourth is with us both a music pin. You IM and me AcDc

Are you my long lost brother ?

It should be as simple as you mention. Old one out, nvram in. And yes, your old scores and settings are gone.

Don’t forget to take the batteries out! Otherwise there is still the danger of leaking.

You should reseat the connectors of the short cable going from top center of the bottom board to one higher. That one is transferring the power 5V to the cpu board which is the top board.

You should measure the 5V at top board CPU befor and after to see if there was any change.

I spoke at a show in November with Pinsound and he repeated the story of one year earlier eg he has a good friend working on it.

No timeframe mentioned.

Air balls? Wonder if I have ever seen one in my TSPP??

In NL and Belgium a TSPP will be north of 4K and a nice one with extra like colordmd close to 5K

Had to sell a pin to make room for New one and couldn’t choose between my MeT or TsPP so let faith decide and tspp is still here .

It’s a great pin indeed. And I am a fan of the theme which is a good help.

If you can buy a decent one for a normal price it has proven to hold value.

I have lcd and led displays and in my tspp there is a led (pin2dmd). I think that with the cartoon style this fits best.

But that’s just my opinion and lcd is fine to. This is not a matter of good or bad but of good and perhaps better.

This is how it looks in led

I have a strange phenomenon with my mini display which I wonder if it is standard or an error. If an error any clue where to find a solution? Reseated already the connectors and in testmode the display works fine.

What I mean can best be seen around 21 sec mark.

Any advice would be appreciated

Thanks for the response. I tried already disconnecting the flasher connector but that didn’t change a thing.

Going to loan a driver bord from a lotr to see if that changes anything. Than I know of it is a PCB faulty or not.

Hadn’t notice also the mode bord to the right also acts strange. Will have a look in that to.

Any pointers would be highly appreciated.

Tried another power driver bord and that was OK. So next step will be replacing the flipflop IC’s at u201 and 206. To be cntd.

Replaced u201 and 206 and works fine again

FYI: First used 74ls273n Which a friend had lying around which worked fine in real pinball playing mode but in testmode was not showing all red (all other testmodes worked fine). With 74hct273N also testmode all red works 100% fine

So fully working again as original designed

1 year after seeing the tip I finally came to it during some maintenance and cleaning light: I swapped the entrance gate with the Moe sign for better look.

Played an extensive game and found no difference. And ofcourse if you have a very slow ball which only goes a few centimeter up the ramp you can have the situation where entrance gate would be triggered against now not.

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Thanks. All credit should go to the original poster at

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tspp-owners-club-members-only/page/79#post-4829617

Just make sure prior to buying to open up the backbox and check the batteries for leakage. If they have leaked on to the PCB this can cause some serious damage with ditto costs.

You can indeed go for a NVRam but another option if you wanna retain the history is to install energizer lithium AA batteries which will not leak. Replace the batteries with game turned on !!

Nice work on the sideblades but what do you mean with not precut? Have the same and mine were cut to size.

I had to make a cut to for the wooden block now you mention it but found that easy to do. Not a showstopper and the blades do look great.

You got it

All chips have a notch on 1 side and usually all chips on a PCB have this notch or dot pointing same direction. Can’t see it on your pictures if this is the case but easy to check for you.

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Interesting picture because of the leds. How does this look installed? Guess the garage lights up green when open? And the left loop is dimmed illuminated?

Bit late but this is a picture I found of mine befor cleaning it

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Upgrade for sure but you will loose the amount of plays etc so take some pictures of those data. Ofcourse this only makes sense if you haven’t had empty batteries which flush this data down the drain.