The Simpsons Pinball Party
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Hi all,
Just picked up TSPP over the weekend....got everything working but wondering if anyone knows why this board is in here? Also, appears there is a wire connector ready for this. IMG_3309 (resized).JPG I've seen a few pics of other machines and don't see this in the back box. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Greg
Hi all,
I have an issue that is now haunting me. Upper right flipper coil engaged when turning on. I replaced the coil just in case (although nothing checked out wrong with the original). I replaced the transistor (Q14). Did not fix the issue. With the driver board out of the machine I'm still getting a ground at the specific connector pin for this particular flipper so its likely before the transistor. What else can I check?
Greg
Can someone please detail the proper behavior of the couch release? What I'm getting is on multiball, 2 balls release quickly....then the third. I have a feeling this is not right with each dropping a few seconds between. Also, if I have 2 balls locked...and a third goes in (with no lock yet on)...2 balls drop (instead of 1). I have been playing with this for a while now. I installed the support behind the coil as well as the nylon bushing. All seems smooth.
Thanks,
Greg
Just did the test a few times. The coil definitely holds open too long and another ball goes through quickly. If I change coil power to soft it works fine. Not sure I should leave it that way though as it may effect other things.
Edit: Nope.....I couldn't even get a ball to load using the soft setting.
Fixed it. I bent the black piece back a little bit....(the part on the Bottom of the pic holding front of ball) and this did the trick. Thanks!
I added the garage cliffy and now I have the issue of not being able to get it in the living room. It’s way more of a challenge with it. I need to check on this further as well. With a hundred years of episodes I’m not sure why they didn’t just pull some Marge and Lisa content from there. Still a great game for sure.
Quoted from Moli410:My pin is officially colored! For those that don’t have a colordmd, this mod is a MUST!
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Totally agree. I think I need those speaker LEDs. I like that.
Quoted from brainmegaphone:When you removed the upper playfield did you potentially leave wires or something in the way?
To your last comment about the voices - licensing rights can be funny and there is a strong possibility that the voices in the show can't contractually be used in any other product without further consent or payment to the actors. It can also be that someone "else" owns the TV script/show/production and would need to consent to that being reproduced as well. Multiple hands out for money and approval rights (which can hold up a game) mean "stay away" and do something differently. So it would not (legally) be as simple as moving the sound clips from a DVD copy over to a pinball game.
May have another look......yeah I guess you are right regarding the licensing. Probably would end up just costing way more.
Edit: I bent the garage cliffy down a little bit.. I also added a piece of mylar between the plastic ramp and the metal cliffy. I did this because the plastic ramp was so broken in this spot and the ball would hang up. Works better then before now.
Just realized super pops target/switch is not working. Anything simple to check? no matter how much I push the switch it doesn't work. Hoping its something simple.
Quoted from brainmegaphone:Did you look at the switch underneath the playfield to see if anything is disconnected/broken off? I forget off the top of my head if these have diodes or not but checking how the switch is (or is not) wired is step #1.
The other thing to do is connect your multimeter to the switch ends and see if you get a beep when you close the switch. That tells you if the switch is mechanically working.
Chances are it is a physical issue with the switch (wiring or otherwise not making contact). You should rule those things out before looking at anything else in the game that might be causing this.
Thanks for the response. All looks ok with the wires and such. Good tips here. Will check this out and report back.
Can someone explain to me what the EOS switch on the flipper does on these machines (and all Sterns)? I realize mine wasn't set correctly and opening and I don't see a difference in performance of the flipper.
Quoted from Da-Shaker:I believe it switches it from high power to low power. You'll eventually burn up the coil and shrink the coil sleeve if you don't fix it.
OK I get it now. Thanks. I already fixed it. The Williams machines have the 2 coils in 1 (3 wire coils) to do just that but Stern went about it differently by lowering the voltage. That is where I was confused. I figured if the button was held, the CPU would know and lower the voltage.
Interesting that the upper flipper doesn't have the EOS....guess it's a weaker coil.
Quoted from ts4z:On Stern games (and all Sega, and later DE games with the TY-FFASI flipper board), the electronics re-kick the flipper (hard) when the EOS switch is opened and the flipper button is being held. That is, there's a timed initial hard kick, followed by the "hold" voltage; if the EOS switch indicates the flipper is not at the end of its stroke, the electronics will re-apply the oomph.
This fixes an issue where there's a kicker that fires the ball at the flipper (which is why they added this switch on DE Jurassic Park). If this switch is not working, a fast-moving ball will drop the flipper, and it will rise slowly if at all, because the electronics are only applying the hold voltage. (if I got the operation of the EOS switch backwards, my point stands, I just don't remember which state is normal.)
For all of the upper flippers on Simpsons, there is no EOS switch, and that's fine, since those flippers are not likely to get held up and face fast-moving balls.
Thanks for this explanation. Makes sense now!
Quoted from Norcalpin:On my tmnt I was able to turn down the power on my flippers and ball launch (from the trough). Is that possible on tspp? If so, I’m not seeing the adjustment. My ball launch is ejecting really hard. I’m still on the original software.
Thanks
It's all coils or nothing. On some older Sterns where you are not able to adjust individual coils, I change the power to "low" instead of "normal". Sometimes this works and sometimes this doesn't. On one of my machines it didn't have enough power to put a ball in the shooter lane. You can try experimenting. This adjustment is primarily used if you have house voltage that is either too low or high. (someone can correct me if I'm wrong here)
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