It’s higher than that now I think, I see them going for 5200-5500. Number of plays is meaningless unless it’s on original code.

Hi Guy,

I ended by changing q15 and q16 and coil+diode
Issue issue solved

Ok all my TSPP is completely working now and the only complaint I have is the "feel" of the flippers. They hit everything they need to just fine but they still feel sort of soft compared to BW games or newer sterns or really any other modern game I have played or owned Is that just the way this game is? I had a monopoly and it felt much tighter in the flippers

Looking for some repair advice. DMD went completely out, with an audible noise. Rest of the game and sounds continue to function normal. Fuse F1 for the display power supply board was blown. Fuse was replaced, blew, rinse and repeat. No obvious damage to the display power supply board, but I haven’t started with the multi meter. Any ideas where to start? I am green to pinball repair so I’m sorry if this is an obvious fix.

Does anyone know why this screw and bushing is in the Otto lane? It's not stock is it?

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Strummy I can check for you when I get home but I seriously doubt that is stock.

Stock!

I have the same thing on mine.

First run, HUO. I think it keeps the ball from getting too far up when it kicks out of the saucer.

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^Thanks. I assume it must be to slow down the ball for the Otto kickout?

Another question which I've asked before. The switch right before the Otto kickout. Mine only works if I hold down manually. I'm not sure whats going on with that thing because the actual kickout registers various rewards like 2x scoring and some chalkboard rewards. The switch I'm questioning does the same thing when I hold it down.

Bump for this guys post. I’m crappy at that kind of stuff but I guarantee someone can point you in the right direction.

I'd pull the dmd out and lay it on the glass and try again to see if something shorted out inside the backbox as a first step.

This. You night have pinched a wire were the DMD sits in the head. It's a tight space.

Can you elaborate on this? Was it a buzzing sound? A loud pop? See smoke/smell ozone?

IIRC it was a loud popping noise. No smoke or odor.

Has anyone else experienced a large increase in music volume during Alien Invasion? I was playing the game like usual and all was normal and once I enabled Alien Invasion the volume went waaaay up. After it was over the volume went back to normal.

I think that happened with mine. I wouldn't notice it until after alien invasion was over and I could tell the volume dropped significantly.

IIRC there is a setting to change this sound behaviour ?

Mine does this also, what is the setting to correct it?

It doesn't really bother me to where I need to change it because it is extremely rare for me to get to that mode, It just caught me off guard immediately and I thought...oh crap what's happening!!?? Should I shut it down!?!? Lol

Just a bump

Same feeling.i've got a ripley next to my tspp. Flips seems more powerful and snappy.
But, that's just a different feeling.

Flipper rebuild kit?

Mine gets louder too. I assumed it was like an attract mode thing cause you're doing well...

Feature adjustment 36. Allow volume effects.

I rebuilt all my flippers and mine feel the way you describe compared to my NIB Ghostbusters and MMr. I think it’s just how the game is. Of course I’d have to compare your game to mine to truly confirm.

Ya. That's my experience with other Simpson's on location. I rebuilt my flipps when I got it. It's better but still not the snap that makes a flip so fulfilling on a newer stern or old bally Williams.

Can you install a shaker motor on a TSPP?

No; there's no software support.

Thank you. I thought someone said there was a way to wire it in so it would still interact with the game and make sense. Is this way not possible either or just not recommended?

Welp, I give up.

I've had my TSPP for 3 years now and have going through extended periods of being burned out on it - no games played for weeks if not months on end sometimes. A while back I decided that I'd get back into it, and since SDMEWM is way beyond my ability level - finally sell it once I beat my highest score. Sadly for me - I had one ridiculous outlier game that was more than double my next highest. I tried a few dozen sessions over the ensuing weeks and just never came remotely close.

Tonight I tried again for the first time in a month or so. 2nd game in and I had a good one going. Three couch multiballs (But no super jackpots.) Started mystery spot, secret stash, and daredevil mania. Too hectic to even pay attention to whether or not I finished any of them, though in the past I've been able to complete secret stash and daredevil mania now and then. Had what might have been my best Alien Invasion ever. Took it up to 5 balls three different times - once locking three of them, but unable to get the required 2 in the couch. Much like super jackpots during couch multiball - I'm just terrible at the couch shot while trying to pay attention to the main flippers.

30 or so minutes of playing and....
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Ugh. This is my 2nd best score ever. I should be happy, but that one outlier game? 299M and change. Same stock settings. I just can't do it again. It was the perfect storm of keeping the TV timer going for a long long time, combined with a lot of Otto 2x shots, and 2 times through Alien Invasion. It just seems insurmountable, and I'm rarely in the mood to even try when I know beating that score will take 30-45 minutes on one game. At least I was able to get over half of my high.

Nuts to this. It's a damn great game, but coming soon to a Craigslist near you* : One loved and simultaneously despised TSPP. It's time to take a load of pics and place the ad. Whatever I get to replace it is going to be a fast and mean bastard of a game. I want something that will kick my ass and be quick about it.

* If you live in the Twin Cities.

I get the idea.
A friend of mine was restting all high scores every 6 month, to avoid that feeling
299M in factory setting is really great in my point of view. I reached the 100-120M level but still in easy mode :/
Hope you'll find a good replacement.. I heard that TWD can be a good companion if you want a game that barely last 10 min

I really liked this game, but what you are explaining is part of the reason I sold mine. I couldn’t do the one more game thing because a good game took to long. Once sold I bought GoT.

got has shorter game ?
One possibilty is to open all outlanes, but drain is also frustrating..
At the end, it might just that tspp has too much to do..
Either you accept it, or not

Well, since I've already gotten one PM about my post - I'll make sure to mention it here in this thread if/when I do get around to listing my machine. (Probably post-Xmas just so you know.)

Some donation to pinside if sold through here, of course.

I enjoy playing mine, but only now and then. Games are too long, but I want to get further. Anytime I consider selling mine, I just can't. It's fun, and it's a favorite among guests. It's different than most games. It rarely has a one more feel, but the long crazy games fill the need well. I have other shorter playing games for the one more feel if that's what I'm in the mood for. I would like get a lotr, but I'm concerned I would play it once in awhile for the same reasons. Tspp is a great game, and is great for providing a different style of game play compared to what most current games offer.

Hi all. I am a recent TSPP owner and can use some help. The “Y” switch by the VUK under the mini playfield was not registering consistently so I tried to solder on a new one along with a new diode. It worked fine for a few tries and then nothing. The VUK pushes the ball up after ball search, but the switch just stopped registering entirely. Because I am a soldering noob, I tried it a second time with a new switch and diode but same thing: works for a minute or two and then dies. Any idea what the problem may be? Thanks very much.

Is the diode oriented correctly?

Has anyone tried Pinsound board inside of the TSPP. I just ordered one. Also ordered Flipper Fidelity upgraded speaker kit with the 10 inch sub. Any feedback on the sound improvements this will make to the game. Also they said pinsound board in the near future would have the capabilities to incorporate a Shaker motor support to the game. Any thoughts?

I connected my TSPP to an external sub and was very happy with the results. Not quite sure what improvements are going to be heard with upgraded backbox speakers. The audio on TSPP suffers from pretty lossy compression, and better speakers aren't going to change that. Very curious to see what could be done with a Pinsound board, though!

That’s a real conundrum there. I have both machines (and only those two). I love TSPP because of the theme (huge fan:see username) and the game play. TSPP is good for involved complex rules that will take a while to learn and master. AFMr is great for what I call “fast games”. The theme is fun and the rules are moderate. In my opinion, one could master the rules of AFMr in the same amount of time it takes one to realized they don’t know half of the rules/features of TSPP. IMO anyone could walk up to AFM for the first time and figure out most of the rules in 1-3 games.

I know it’s not always feasible (it took me 4 years), but get both if you can. If you can’t and you still want an AFMr, get it first so you can get an LE while they are still available. TSPP’s will be available for some time to come.

Whichever you pickup, you won’t be disappointed.

I removed mine by just peeling it off. Do it slowing and it should come up easy and clean.

I recommend testing the switch when it isn’t installed to see if the wiring is solid before you put it back together. This will help you eliminate a wiring issue versus a physical issue (ie ball not triggering switch).

Access the switch physically and then put game in test mode. See how switch works. Be careful not to short anything when the game is on.

That happened to mine the first time I replaced the Y switch and found out I made a cold solder joint. It worked fine after reheating it and securing the connection.

I have a LED OCD question: Has anybody tried the Gizmo board option? Happy with the results?

For those that went LED OCD, did you do much customizing or just standard settings?

I'm a new TSPP owner and the low blinking LEDs seems like it needs fixed. Thanks for any feedback!

I did not get the gizmo board. I did get the LED OCD board for my TSPP and it looks plenty good on just the default settings. No need to adjust in my opinion.

I also got the standard LED OCD. Game had LEDs from before my purchase. LED OCD made it look great. Nice fading in and out. I never changed any settings.

Same here, though I also got the Gizmo board. The LED OCD (on standard settings) is great, but I really didn’t see any difference with the Gizmo added. Maybe TSPP just doesn’t need it, or maybe my eyes aren’t that sensitive. I’d suggest saving the $50.