any other game differences? This one has a flawless cabinet that look very nice. I have seen others on route that dont look as crisp as this one does.

Other than the artwork, the only other difference I can think of is that the later runs used a different sound chip. I'll see if I can find more info for you.

Edit: This thread specifically addresses the differences. Rarehero talks about the sound chip. I guess the later ones used some kind of emulation that has some flaws:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tspp-simpsons-pinball-party-run-differences

thanks. Seems like not a whole lot of differences or atleast any of concern. Just preferences.

I concur; upgraded my speakers on TSPP and was seriously disappointed. The original sounds are just too compressed to sound good. Extract them out via Pinball Browser and play them on a computer with good external speakers and you'll see what I mean.

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Clear Itchy and Scratchy protector just arrived.

Is the plastic meant to be blue, or do I have to peel it off so it's clear?

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Don't just rip it off like some kind of maniac either. Get a little corner and then slowly peel it back in a nice smooth motion so you can enjoy it.

I am in the rip it off like a maniac camp.

If you would, take a couple of pics after you install it. I'd like to see how it looks. Thanks.

Hopefully removing the whole plastic won't be that daunting but as soon as I can I'll post pictures.

Looks like this plastic above the Krusty spinner must come out first.

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I think I see how this will work. But there's there's hex nuts holding some of the plastic on. There's gotta be an easier way removing them without a wrench, right? Not a lot of room to work with, and don't wanna hit anything...

New to this, I know.

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Yes, have to remove nuts to remove plastics. Then, you'll have to remove posts to install the protector.

In both cases, no, not use a wrench. You want nut drivers.

Don't be afraid. But do get the right tools.

We're all here to help.

Thanks! I think I'm gonna run to the store tomorrow and get one.

Get a set of nut drivers and I would also suggest a magnetic tray. It makes it is easier to hold on to all those screws and nuts.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Magnetic-Tray-HMTRAY/206001142?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D25T-HandTools%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQjwwry8BRDjsbjMpPSDvagBEiQA5oW0nAAo1s4R7Eg8SQJAa4ZXHXB7BsFnFdfRVDwdPfJAvz8aAtrc8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

For pinball work, you'll want at least 1/4", 5/16", and 11/32". Hollow-shaft magnetic are best, but get what you can get. You'll use them all the time.

Thanks guys!

Removing the plastics is an easy operation. Make sure you have every nut and screw removed first and don't yank on them. You'll feel some resistance sometimes when a hole in the plastic catches on the thread of a post, just go easy and work with it. Just added a set of plastics protectors from indypinhead on mine, so I can tell you these plastics are easy to remove and replace.

If you're going tool shopping you might want to make a list of tools you'll need just for your pin and keep them in a separate toolbag, toolbox or whatever. That way you'll have your "pinball tools" away from any other tools you have so that you know where they are when you need them.

There are also a few phillips screws to remove.

At Home Depot now...

Edit: Got some nut drivers by Husky. 7-piece set with correct measurements. Will get back to this.

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That's the exact set I have too. Harbor Freight is also awesome for this type of stuff since you won't be wearing anything out wrenching on pins.

Klein tools rule

You might want to get the longer (6") shaft driver on 1/4" size. There are several impossible-to-get screws on most playfields that require a longer reach. Be sure it has a magnet on its end, too.

Experience.

They're not quite long enough to reach screws holding things like drop target assemblies, and they bend when you use them improperly as a crowbar. They're decent for the $8 price, but I want to upgrade to the long handled magnetic Klein's.

Ah, crap. Didn't know that... Feeling really stupid right now.

Oh well. I guess I'll just give these a shot and later on I'll upgrade to the Klein tools.

Edit: I'm going to go back to the store, return these and get the Klein ones. Just for reference, so you guys have a picture of them so I know what I'm looking for?

This style of set will last forever. Klein Tools:
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that is the best for sure. I can say they wont last forever as I have had the magnets fall out of a couple, but still the best variety to get.

I've got the plastic off the game. Unscrewing the bolts for that metal "lid" in the edge of the scoop. I've been doing it for what seems like an eternity and at times it feels really loose, then I get some resistance. Do I have to unscrew something from below the playfield to remove it?

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Yes you have to hold the screw head from the bottom.

Dude.....have you sat at a desk your whole life? You're killing me here lol! Hold the bolt head on the bottom side while removing the nut from the top.

take the balls out of the game
lift it in the upright position or the service position (whichever give you better access to both sides)
Screw or bolt on bottom side. Nut driver on topside.

Loosen and all good.

he is still a kid and learning. Give him a break. We all have to learn at one time and that is what the internet is for. Helping us learn.

Ok ok ok. If he's a kid it's all good. Must have a lucrative paper route. If he was a 40 year old man and didn't know how a bolt and nut worked, but made enough money to afford a pinball machine, I would be puzzled.

He is one of the top 10 tournament player in the world. I am guessing he won the machine
I am really happy to see he is starting to learn how to wrench on them. Working on games and modding them can be fun aspects of the hobby, so cool to see someone that got their start in pinball as a competitive player learn to work on them.

I can say that taking apart and putting together games has actually made me a better player, so you may se a side benefit Josh

Alright alright. My statement was a bit dick headed. I surrender.

Wrench on multibrawlr. You'd probably smoke me in a tourney anyhow. I'm better at working on them than playing them.

For those of you with Color DMD in this game. What setting do you use? My TSPP came with a color DMD. I was messing around with different options finally last night. It was in "Scan" mode. There is also "Hi Res" mode? I think that's what it was called. I couldn't tell a difference. Anyone know what the difference is? What mode do you use?

FWIW, I had to order my Kleins from Home Depot online. They didn't carry the magnetic ones in store. YMMV.

It's a little hard to the tell the difference sometimes, yes. Me, I have mine on dots for TSPP. Kinda matches the TV and keeps the "cartoony" look IMO. But hey, whatever YOU like best.

I should be getting my I&S protector today. Glad that Multibrawler is exploring the unknown for me. BTW, what rom are you guys running? I am on the most recent.

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Same here.

I'm still on 4.0 but earlier in the thread somebody was saying I'll need 5.0 when I get around to putting in a color DMD - which may be sooner rather than later, as my DMD didn't come on yesterday when I fired the machine up. I've only had time to visually inspect the fuses; will be testing continuity with a meter when I have a spare moment. No way I'm buying a replacement orange one rather than doing that upgrade!

Anybody have any suggestions where I should look once I've confirmed I didn't blow a fuse? Also, recommendations on where to order fuses or find locally? I struck out at the orange and blue stores.

What would this hobby be if nothing needed fixing, right? =)

I have a color DMD and am running 3.0.

Cables and connections as always. Check power test points also.

If you can't wait for mail-order, Radio Shack.

Not as much fun.

Good luck with the sleuthing and repair. (You really DO need a ColorDMD.)

Yeah, I agree. I've been waiting for the PIN2DMD project to mature but actually think they're far enough along to risk it.

And DOH! Radio Shack... I work across the street from one. Must be killing brain cells too fast or something.

Appreciate it, Hilton. Just getting my hands dirty with pinball repair/mod installation. It'll take time before I'll improve, I know, but I'm gonna get there!

Didn't win this particular machine -- bought it off a friend. HUO later run game. I've always wanted to own a TSPP, but I wanted to wait until a really nice one would become available.

Hey, no big deal man. Just remember that not everyone might be on the same page on things like this. Even on stuff that might seem obvious like all the screws. You never know what's in store for you when a total noob pops a question

Ha, well I'm the complete opposite! Never done much else besides changing bulbs/waxing and cleaning the playfield. I've got to get into pinball machines mechanically. It fascinates me and is imperative to owning games, because sooner or later something goes wrong and you'll need to fix it. Or there might be a Cliffy in need of installation, ect.

My bad. Cheers buddy. You got any questions feel free to ask me.

I think the Kleins have a lifetime guarantee on them. I had the magnet fall out of one and got a replacement for free.

They are really good, I agree that the magnets and the extra reach as said before are really good.

Halfway done. Got some posts I'm gonna have to remove. Including this one that's giving me a hard time. Removed the screw from the bottom but now I've got this one on the top to deal with. Can't reach it with a nut socket. Wrench seems to do the trick, albeit will take forever...

The monorail wireform post is next, then after that I think the protector finally can be installed.

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That post you're referring to is held to the playfield by a nut on the underside. Hold the post with something, and use nutdriver to remove the nut on the underside.

Always before trying to loosen something, check to see what's on the underside. Sometimes a screw like you had before. Sometimes a nut like this one. Sometimes a T-nut (a stationary nut affixed to the playfield) where you need only unscrew the post or screw from the topside.

You can do this!

Yeah, I already got that removed. Top nut is still tight though so I'll have to remove that.

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