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The Simpsons Pinball Party (TSPP) Owners Club..... Members Only!!!

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#5151 3 years ago

looking forward to the Pinsound sound package upgrade that scandell is working on...just ordered my board today...new sounds would make this game ever more killer....

#5152 3 years ago
Quoted from monkfe:

looking forward to the Pinsound sound package upgrade that scandell is working on...just ordered my board today...new sounds would make this game ever more killer....

Please keep us posted. Very exciting.

#5153 3 years ago

Cannot wait time hear more about the pinsound upgrade. What do you have planned ?

#5154 3 years ago

Am I crazy for considering this guy? Would any of you buy a TSPP with decals this bad? And if so, what would you pay? I don't normally care too much about the cab, but the wear is so bad it's almost gross-looking. And I move through a lot of pins, so I wouldn't want trouble on the resale. But it's a fun game, and the seller is currently asking for upper-mid 4's on price. PF seems decent, but the pics are pretty small so it's hard to tell.

Any help from more experienced TSPP owners would be appreciated!

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#5155 3 years ago

I wouldn’t buy that for upper $4’s. Mine was $5k and it was in perfect condition and I bought from a retailer flipper. So it wasn’t a Craigslist steal or anything.

Cabinet that bad shows how hard and many times it’s been played. $3-$3.5k

#5156 3 years ago

Regarding my pinsound package which is 90% done!! Thread starting soon!

#5157 3 years ago
Quoted from Scandell:

I wouldn’t buy that for upper $4’s. Mine was $5k and it was in perfect condition and I bought from a retailer flipper. So it wasn’t a Craigslist steal or anything.
Cabinet that bad shows how hard and many times it’s been played. $3-$3.5k

Yeah, that's kinda my feeling. I offered him sub $4k, so we'll see. Doubt the seller will take it, but you never know!

#5158 3 years ago

Yeah, I paid $5k for mine that was almost perfect (some of the posts were getting brittle, but otherwise fine) AND had a ColorDMD installed, as well as NVRAM.

#5159 3 years ago
Quoted from DakotaMike:

Yeah, that's kinda my feeling. I offered him sub $4k, so we'll see. Doubt the seller will take it, but you never know!

I've seen better looking machines in the mid 5's. I'm also searching for a TSPP machine. Unfortunately I'm getting sellers contacting me that want over 6k. No way in hell I'm paying that much for a Simpsons.

#5160 3 years ago
Quoted from Scandell:

Regarding my pinsound package which is 90% done!! Thread starting soon!

Bring it on! I cant wait for this.

#5161 3 years ago
Quoted from Moli410:

...I'm getting sellers contacting me that want over 6k. No way in hell I'm paying that much for a Simpsons.

There are occasional bargains and rip-offs but overall you generally “get what you pay for.” Lots of Simpson’s out there but prices for HUO examples will probably continue to go up as more people keep joining the hobby and NIB prices rise. True HUO is $5500-6000 all day. Add Color DMD, nuclear side rails and powdercoat and $6000-7000 seems like the new normal. Still a great deal vs HUO modern premiums or LE’s. IMO, if you can afford it, top quality, unrestored examples of highly regarded DMD’s are the best value (excluding likely remakes). Plus they play much better with fewer headaches than average ones.

#5162 3 years ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

Still a great deal vs HUO modern premiums or LE’s. IMO, if you can afford it, top quality, unrestored examples of highly regarded DMD’s are the best value (excluding likely remakes). Plus they play much better with fewer headaches than average ones.

I can second that. It will probably burst into flames after I type this, but my TSPP has been uber reliable. The playfield looks amazing still and the only real issue I’ve had is the microswitch on the upper playfield VUK.

Not bad for a 17-year old pin. I’ve got friends with NIB pins that have had many more issues.

Having owned a System 11 prior, I kind of miss having things to work on.

I’ve got friends with NIB JJPs and Sterns that have had many more issues.

#5163 3 years ago
Quoted from DakotaMike:

Am I crazy for considering this guy? Would any of you buy a TSPP with decals this bad? And if so, what would you pay? I don't normally care too much about the cab, but the wear is so bad it's almost gross-looking. And I move through a lot of pins, so I wouldn't want trouble on the resale. But it's a fun game, and the seller is currently asking for upper-mid 4's on price. PF seems decent, but the pics are pretty small so it's hard to tell.
Any help from more experienced TSPP owners would be appreciated!
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My cabinet had minor wear around the flippers and start, but nowhere near that bad. I feel i got a great deal on it for $4K. I upgraded the ROM to 5.0, added NVRAM, replaced the rubber with Titan rings, cleaned the PF, and replaced the upper playfield VUK Y-switch. Its been pretty solid

#5164 3 years ago

I traded an STTNG that I valued around $4K for my TSPP about two years ago. It came with lollipop rails to cover what I assume is flipper wear but I've never looked under them because I don't really care.

So my advice would be to get one of the following:

1. Lollipop rails
2. Over it.

#5165 3 years ago

I posted this a year ago and no responses. Will try again:

My treehouse gets triggered with the garage shot sometimes. I checked the switch on the treehouse ramp and it does not seem stuck open. Anything else I should check for? Or is this normal.
Also quicky mart sometimes does not trigger. Usually during Wiggum mode which is annoying. Again when I test trigger it seems fine.

#5166 3 years ago
Quoted from gumnut01:

I posted this a year ago and no responses. Will try again:
My treehouse gets triggered with the garage shot sometimes. I checked the switch on the treehouse ramp and it does not seem stuck open. Anything else I should check for? Or is this normal.
Also quicky mart sometimes does not trigger. Usually during Wiggum mode which is annoying. Again when I test trigger it seems fine.

Looking at the switch matrix (page 17 of the manual), the Left Ramon Enter switch is on the same column as the Garage switch (the one that opens the door, not the Garage Ramp Enter). Could be that the diode on the garage switch might be faulty (or anything in the same row/column as the Left Ramp Enter).

Try going into switch test mode and see if the garage switch is registering multiple hits.

#5167 3 years ago

TSPP sound mod thread has been started!!!

It’s a game changer. The theme oozes out of the speakers now.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tspp-sound-replacement-mod#post-5752898

#5168 3 years ago
Quoted from cjchand:

Looking at the switch matrix (page 17 of the manual), the Left Ramon Enter switch is on the same column as the Garage switch (the one that opens the door, not the Garage Ramp Enter). Could be that the diode on the garage switch might be faulty (or anything in the same row/column as the Left Ramp Enter).
Try going into switch test mode and see if the garage switch is registering multiple hits.

Thanks will check again. So no one ever has treehouse triggering for a garage shot?

#5169 3 years ago

I recently purchased a TSPP. Have pulled the play field apart and have it a good clean. Have got a bunch of new parts on order. Cliffys etc.
is it worthwhile going further and touching up the shooter lane and I and S home and then clear coating. Will be doing it myself.see before and after pics. Anything else I should do while it is apart.
Much appreciated
Thanks

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#5170 3 years ago
Quoted from Scandell:

TSPP sound mod thread has been started!!!
It’s a game changer. The theme oozes out of the speakers now.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tspp-sound-replacement-mod#post-5752898

Oh...my....

#5171 3 years ago

Is it better to also clear coat all the metal parts ramps and loops etc that I have cleaned and polished to prevent tarnishing again.

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#5172 3 years ago
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:

The screw is under the edge of the ramp alright, but it is accessible. The driver has to be at a slight angle, but sometimes that's the case on these machines. Maybe use an offset screwdriver to get it loosened.

It was tough to remove and harder still to put back together, but I managed to do it even with my big hands. Thanks for the offset screwdriver comment - couldn't have done it without that!

#5173 3 years ago
Quoted from Sandman454:

Is it better to also clear coat all the metal parts ramps and loops etc that I have cleaned and polished to prevent tarnishing again.
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I’m not an expert, but it’s definitely not common to coat ball guides and ramps, even on high end restores. The guides take a beating so the clear may not hold up to repeated ball strikes or friction - same reason cliffy’s are used on kick-outs and ball drop areas. Cleaning and waxing should reduce tarnishing, and I use Brite Boy polish during more thorough shop jobs.

#5174 3 years ago
Quoted from Scandell:

TSPP sound mod thread has been started!!!
It’s a game changer. The theme oozes out of the speakers now.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tspp-sound-replacement-mod#post-5752898

holy crap. i have never been interested in the PinSound modding, but this has my attention! That was awesome!

What happens if you stack a bunch of modes? does the song play for the most recently activated mode?

#5175 3 years ago
Quoted from sk8ersublime:

holy crap. i have never been interested in the PinSound modding, but this has my attention! That was awesome!
What happens if you stack a bunch of modes? does the song play for the most recently activated mode?

Same logic as before. The code handles the song switching.

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#5176 3 years ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

I’m not an expert, but it’s definitely not common to coat ball guides and ramps, even on high end restores. The guides take a beating so the clear may not hold up to repeated ball strikes or friction - same reason cliffy’s are used on kick-outs and ball drop areas. Cleaning and waxing should reduce tarnishing, and I use Brite Boy polish during more thorough shop jobs.

Thanks
I have just given them a good clean and polish.

#5177 3 years ago
Quoted from Scandell:

Same logic as before. The code handles the song switching.

Wow. What a difference. Fantastic job on doing the pin sound.

Definitely on my list of mods now.
Will support your cause when I save for the pinsound.
The dollar Exchange rate and postage Is a killer to Australia. As I will be looking at a colour DMD as well.

#5178 3 years ago

My new blanket ! I’m addicted next will be pillows

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#5179 3 years ago
Quoted from Oneangrymo:

My new blanket ! I’m addicted next will be pillows[quoted image][quoted image]

Awesome....where did you get that?

#5180 3 years ago

Just picked up a TSPP, updated ROM a to 5.0 (from 4); got a high score and no victory music. Is there anything i can check besides the audio in diagnostic menu? seems like it's doin' ok otherwise.

#5181 3 years ago

Found my problem with tree house registering from garage shot. My gate in garage was caught on one of the black wires. Fixed the wire out of the way with a cable tie. Also noticed the left guide on the ramp had been bent by previous owner which actually narrowed the garage ramp rather than widening. So actually got rid of bend and made it back to how it was. Lots of rejects. To actually widen it I also redrilled the hole where the metal guide meets the plastic ramp on the left. The current hole means the metal guide actually sits inside the plastic by a couple of millimetres. Drilling a hole closer to the guide means the guide can sit closer to the plastic ramp thus making the garage shot wider. Fixes this choke point. Sorry forgot to take pictures cos I’m stupid.

Much easier to hit garage now and no more switch issues.

#5182 3 years ago

Just picked up this morning fellas. Part of the club now....

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#5183 3 years ago

Evenin'

TSPP was my first machine ever and It's never leaving. I feel like it could use some extra love, so I am thinking of getting powder coated armor (and potentially doing the coin door as well)

I've seen the green armor that pinball refinery sells but I just can't get in to it, I've seen a few people do yellow.

Anyone else feel like sharing some eye candy of their powder coated TSPP's?

(there is a part of me that thinks purple could look awesome, my wife says pink (nope, lol))

Thnx!

~Steve

#5184 3 years ago
Quoted from arcadenerd925:

Evenin'
TSPP was my first machine ever and It's never leaving. I feel like it could use some extra love, so I am thinking of getting powder coated armor (and potentially doing the coin door as well)
I've seen the green armor that pinball refinery sells but I just can't get in to it, I've seen a few people do yellow.
Anyone else feel like sharing some eye candy of their powder coated TSPP's?
(there is a part of me that thinks purple could look awesome, my wife says pink (nope, lol))
Thnx!
~Steve

I have a topper, and while playing an hour ago I switched the light to purple and was just thinking a purple armor would look awesome !

#5185 3 years ago
Quoted from arcadenerd925:

Evenin'
TSPP was my first machine ever and It's never leaving. I feel like it could use some extra love, so I am thinking of getting powder coated armor (and potentially doing the coin door as well)
I've seen the green armor that pinball refinery sells but I just can't get in to it, I've seen a few people do yellow.
Anyone else feel like sharing some eye candy of their powder coated TSPP's?
(there is a part of me that thinks purple could look awesome, my wife says pink (nope, lol))
Thnx!
~Steve

I’ve always wanted to see the armor in a powder blue, try it for me!

#5186 3 years ago

Just bought my TSPP a few weeks ago.
So I just purchased a 'few' Simpsons characters...
14 total with 1 more on the way (hard to see dog, cat and Maggie by the couch)

Obnoxious looking, isn't it?

I'll probably take out Homer, Marge, Maggie, Bart, Lisa and Grandpa and put them as a topper.

Figured I would post the pic because I think it looked funny with all of them crammed onto the playfield.

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#5187 3 years ago

Who sells ramps for tspp?

#5188 3 years ago
Quoted from indypinhead:

Awesome....where did you get that?

This one if from amazon . Some
Of my others are from society 6

#5189 3 years ago
Quoted from arcadenerd925:

Evenin'
TSPP was my first machine ever and It's never leaving. I feel like it could use some extra love, so I am thinking of getting powder coated armor (and potentially doing the coin door as well)
I've seen the green armor that pinball refinery sells but I just can't get in to it, I've seen a few people do yellow.
Anyone else feel like sharing some eye candy of their powder coated TSPP's?
(there is a part of me that thinks purple could look awesome, my wife says pink (nope, lol))
Thnx!
~Steve

I did mine in green with Matt at back alley.

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#5190 3 years ago

Wouldn't mind seeing one in purple but there's a reason that nuclear yellow and green are the popular choices. Did mine in metallic yellow. The sparkle doesn't show up well in the photo.

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#5191 3 years ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

Wouldn't mind seeing one in purple but there's a reason that nuclear yellow and green are the popular choices. Did mine in metallic yellow. The sparkle doesn't show up well in the photo.
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Off-topic for this thread, but how are you liking Hot Wheels?

#5192 3 years ago
Quoted from cjchand:

Off-topic for this thread, but how are you liking Hot Wheels?

Like it a lot. The playfield design and rules are great. Tough but not brutal or unfair; hard to trap-up so forces you to play on-the-fly and defensively; more to rules and playfield design than meets the eye. Not super deep but broad and deep enough for long-term enjoyment. Still needs more animations and sounds to immerse you fully and create big moments, but no doubt will come. Certainly good compliment to Simpsons.

#5193 3 years ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

Wouldn't mind seeing one in purple but there's a reason that nuclear yellow and green are the popular choices. Did mine in metallic yellow. The sparkle doesn't show up well in the photo.
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How did you get the T-Molding to sit so well at the headbox? Or is it something else?

#5194 3 years ago
Quoted from allsportdvd:

How did you get the T-Molding to sit so well at the headbox? Or is it something else?

It's standard T-molding. I just overlapped the horizontal sections slightly with the verticals.

#5195 3 years ago
Quoted from arcadenerd925:

Evenin'
TSPP was my first machine ever and It's never leaving. I feel like it could use some extra love, so I am thinking of getting powder coated armor (and potentially doing the coin door as well)
I've seen the green armor that pinball refinery sells but I just can't get in to it, I've seen a few people do yellow.
Anyone else feel like sharing some eye candy of their powder coated TSPP's?
(there is a part of me that thinks purple could look awesome, my wife says pink (nope, lol))
Thnx!
~Steve

After seeing the donut pink in the powder coat thread after it was installed, that's my front runner.

#5196 3 years ago
Quoted from CPanther95:

After seeing the donut pink in the powder coat thread after it was installed, that's my front runner.

Any chance you could dig me up a link? I'd be curious to see it.

#5198 3 years ago

My wife just looked over my shoulder and saw the pink TSPP. Said, "Uhhh, Nope, not a chance"...so I guess it's no longer a front runner.

#5199 3 years ago

Installed some Cliffys today. Had one broken ramp and one cracked ramp. Problem solved! Really impressed with Cliffys products. Costly though. IMG_20200803_172731 (resized).jpgIMG_20200803_172731 (resized).jpg

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#5200 3 years ago
Quoted from CPanther95:

My wife just looked over my shoulder and saw the pink TSPP. Said, "Uhhh, Nope, not a chance"...so I guess it's no longer a front runner.

Ha! thanks for posting. Yeah that is definitely a cool look but I dont think I could do it.

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