(Topic ID: 178269)

Tspp or IMVE (poll)

By rai

7 years ago



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  • Latest reply 7 years ago by tktlwyr
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“IMVE or TSPP”

  • IMVE (Is it better to be feared or respected?) 34 votes
    49%
  • Tspp (Must you always be so good?) 36 votes
    51%

(70 votes)

#1 7 years ago

The previous thread did not include a poll and since you can not edit poll choices I figured I'd create a new thread with poll.

I have quoted the OP of the other thread

Quoted from sadler28:

Taking my collection from 2 games to 5. I have MET and JD. Love both games because of depth and modes. I'll have NGG and EBD here soon and have the budget and space for 1 more.
I love the theme of TSPP and heard it's deep. Never played it though. I like the idea of IMVE because I've heard it's fast and difficult, but I've never really gotten into superhero stuff.
Leaning IMVE for times when I only have 30 mins to play a few games. I think TSPP is long like MET when you get a game going?
Any input from folks that have played both would be greatly appreciated. Even better if you can give input as a collection of 5 machines.

#2 7 years ago

Here is MY take on both as I have both and they are both great

IMVE
Pro
- much newer so it's only 3 years old and likely has less wear and tear better sound
- has nice cabinet decals ( if they are stuck on correctly) and had a nice head metal speaker panel and better receiver for the translight (IMO)
-is fantastic with shaker (one of the best integrations)
-has GREAT movie quotes and good custom voice callouts
-it's very quick and very little stop and go (great flow) short games but you can get a good way to Jereco or DOD hurry up in one ball
-had the Monger one of the coolest toys in pinball (Where do you think you're going?)
-it fights back (War Machine)
-three spinners

Con
-not much of a skill shot
-rules are abbreviated (this is fun for multi play but maybe boring if you have a small collection)
-Dots are godawful it's pathetic but improved greatly with color DMD
-peg legs and snappy clips
-can be too brite (but I like brite games it's ok for me)

Tspp
Pros
-deep rules (really deep)
-great call outs (Way to go dude)
-great dots
-lots of shots, and toys, upper PF, ball lock
-great art
-different layout, like a mini TZ or WoZ
-upper PF is great
-great if you have a small collection because there is a lot to discover

Cons
-stop and go a lot (some like this but it's more TZ-ish)
-Sound could be better
-cabinet artwork looks a little faded and pixilated
-some don't like the Doh mode
-one long ramp (I know there are 3 ramps but the left and couch ramp are kind of mini ramps)
-older so generally has more wear and tear
-kind of dark, I did a full LED conversion but in stock form was too dark for my taste
-can have Long games (that's not terrible but I've read that some people find it a drag at 30+ minutes) but I don't have long games yet since I'm not very good

#3 7 years ago

I voted for Tspp only because I already have Tron, TWD pro and Met pro and while I think IMVE is as good as those three they are all in the same mold (partly) and Tspp is just real different to me. So if I was to ax one or the other I'd ax IMVE or Tron they are about tie in my mind.

Currently Met pro and TWD pro are my newest games so I would keep those and sell Tron (4 years) or IMVE (3 years in my collection). But overall all four of my Borg games are equal and valid to have in my collection because they all feel different just not as different as Tspp which almost feels like a different company than recent Stern pins.

#4 7 years ago

^ I've put quite a bit of time on both of these games, and agree with every single point posted above.

#5 7 years ago

IMVE is kinda barren but fun. Makes the most of what it has. Brutal though. Very close to MET and Tron though.

TSPP is like a puzzle. I wish it had more "flow" and I don't even me 1-ball flow. I mean "Multiball flow". Great games like SM, LOTR, ATM and MM have that. I tend to REALLy like games with that (I'd rather have I500 than IM. It's tougher but better flow).

#6 7 years ago

Thanks for the poll and detailed descriptions!!

#7 7 years ago

I've owned both. Both games are fun but TSPP is by far the better game over all.

I miss my TSPP every day.
IM..... I'll play it when I see it on location but I don't miss it.

Go with you gut.

1 week later
#8 7 years ago

I have owned both - TSPP left long ago and I miss it but would not buy one agian.
TSPP is the deeper of the two but IM hands me my butt just about every time I play it.
If you have a few deep games I would add IM as a short play time game to mix it up.

#9 7 years ago

Although deep, TSPP is a grind.

IM is one of those "just one more game" games..

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