(Topic ID: 186723)

TSPP Mode sign flickering

By Sweetmike

7 years ago



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  • Latest reply 6 years ago by lyonsden
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#1 7 years ago

I have a problem with all the LED's in the "Mode sign" flickering during both game play and attract mode.
Anyone have an idea or two?

#2 7 years ago

Maybe it is a loose connection.
The connector to the "Mode sign" might not be sitting well on the board or with whatever it is connected.
Just press the connector a bit (with the game turned off) and see if it works then.

#3 7 years ago

If that isn't the case I could also imagine, that maybe the wires in this connector jumped out a bit and thus there is a loose connection.
I had that once on my Attack from Mars, the saucer didn't lite up. One of the wires completely jumped out of the connector.
I had to crimp these wires back in.

According to the TSPP manual the connector is located on the board behind the "Mini-TV", if you've meant the little display-screen.

2 months later
#4 6 years ago

I'm having the same issue with the Led Mode sign. Did you solve the problem??

3 weeks later
#5 6 years ago

Similar problem came up in this thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tspp-leds-on-mode-sign-are-acting-up

The short of it:
-The flickering (in that case) looked like strobing of the lamp matrix
-One of the LEDs was the problem. Once it was removed, the problem went away.
-A replacement LED has been ordered (VQA29 Miniature LED TRIANGULAR GREEN). Hopefully that will work as a replacement.

#6 6 years ago
Quoted from lyonsden:

Similar problem came up in this thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tspp-leds-on-mode-sign-are-acting-up
The short of it:
-The flickering (in that case) looked like strobing of the lamp matrix
-One of the LEDs was the problem. Once it was removed, the problem went away.
-A replacement LED has been ordered (VQA29 Miniature LED TRIANGULAR GREEN). Hopefully that will work as a replacement.

Is there a website you know that sells this replacement LED? I bought one online and it is the right size but after replacing it the LED stays lit all the time.

#7 6 years ago

I don't -- I was helping someone in the other thread diagnose the problem. Given that the resistor is 220 ohm, I was guessing at the correct LED to use (and that was the only triangle shaped one I could find). Have you tried the "regular" 3mm and 5mm LEDs that are often sold in Arduino starter kits? They may be a good thing to try and see if they behave correctly. Then based on their specs, see if you can find one with triangle shaped head.

#8 6 years ago

Digging some more at digikey, this looks like the a good replacement: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/4-0mm-x-4-5mm-triangle-with-flat-top-led-lamp/35917. It has looks like it can handle 20mA, with an input voltage of 2.2V. Using this resistor calculator: https://www.digikey.com/en/resources/conversion-calculators/conversion-calculator-led-series-resistor and assuming an input voltage of 6.3V, the 220 ohm resistor is perfect. (But keep in mind that I am just guessing at the size of the LED.)

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