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Tspp display issues, totally perplexed

By Djshakes

6 years ago


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#2 6 years ago

Did you swap the Whitestar DMD controller boards between the two games? Those are the boards mounted to the rear of the displays.

If you were testing with the old plasma DMD, did you try swapping the high-voltage power supply boards?

#5 6 years ago

Power driver board seems unlikely to be the problem, but the way to check would be to test for proper voltages at the Whitestar display board and at the DMD.

If you were pulling display ROMs in/out of the Whitestar display board, I'd be more suspicious of damage to the socket or TSPP display ROM chip.

Just to verify... have you done this test?
(1) Set the LOTR back to the way it was with all original boards.
(2) Swap ONLY the Whitestar display board between games AND (necessarily) swap the display ROM chips between the two boards so the right display chip is in the right game.

#7 6 years ago

5V is right for the Whitestar display board, but the DMD for TSPP is a high-voltage plasma and power comes from a separate high-voltage board. Need to check all the voltages coming out on the 9-pin DMD power connector.

#12 6 years ago

I'm still unclear on what tests were done. Looking at the TSPP backbox, there are only four boards:

(1) large CPU board at top-right
(2) large power driver board at bottom-right
(3) DMD High-Voltage power board at top left
(4) DMD display controller board mounted to back of the DMD

There's also the actual DMD that is underneath the metal RF shield.

The CPU and display controller board both contain ROMs that need to be replaced when swapping boards. Also the game ROM and display ROM versions also have to be consistent to work properly.

If you can be more specific as to exactly what and how the board swaps were done, it would be helpful to debugging the issue.

#16 6 years ago

If voltages check out, it's not the power driver board (or transformer).

At that point I think the only difference between LOTR and TSPP are the ROMs.

#23 6 years ago
Quoted from Djshakes:

Correct, the LOTR doesn't work in the TSPP. Nothing works in the TSPP. Everything I swapped from TSPP works in LOTR.
These readings are for a WPC display but wouldn't they be the same for a TSPP using a high voltage display?
Pin 1: -125 volts (-110 to -130 volts); Williams lowered this voltage to -115.
Pin 2: -113 volts (-98 to -118 volts); Williams lowered this voltage to -103.
Pin 3: Key
Pin 4: Ground
Pin 5: Ground
Pin 6: +5 volts (4.9 to 5.2 volts)
Pin 7: +12 volts (10 to 14 volts)
Pin 8: +62 volts (58 to 68 volts)

Voltages look good. I'd suspect the TSPP display ROM (or the Whitestar display board... but you already stated this is working with the LOTR display ROM installed).

#25 6 years ago

According to TSPP manual's "Display Power Supply Board Schematic":
1 -120V
2 -100V
3 KEY
4 GND
5 GND
6 +5V
7 +12V
8 +60V

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