Another one of my artistic dementia projects kicking in. I have wanted to do Tron wireforms for a long time. I have owned Tron twice, but it was before I started the wireform business with my wife. So, this Tron number 3 is now another project I have been very eager to do. I really think the game will look amazing without the plastic ramps. I also believe the el or fiber lights would look fine on the rails. I will make plastic ramp entrances for the wireforms. The stock ones will not be touched only removed. If you dig the project and find yourself interested please feel free to pm me. I will sell them as a kit soon. I just had to sort out some severe wiring hacks prior. Stay tuned, I will post as it goes.

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And the madness begins. Wiring corrected. Playfield under ramps needed to be cleaned anyway, but look at it visually without the plastics.

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Left side in progress. I need to tie in more rails due to length.

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These will be the longest forms I have made to date. I use six feet sections so I had to extend these as I make the drop hole centered in wireform length when shaping them out. I spent my day on paying work, but grabbed a hour on tron. The forms will really free up space in the back. I think I am going to remove the recognizer plastic toy and scale up a wireformed recognizer in its place. Make it more imposing and it will fill up the new space. I will sketch it out in different sizes and see. It seems I enjoy making things for machines over playing them lately.

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Me too! I only have el wire at this point. With this ring rail type guides I can easily have the light be mounted below and dead center of the ball guides. The lights would be on the ball travel rolling point, not up on the sides. I think that would also look very nice. Like the ball is leaving the trail of light.

Thanks! And powder coat in the right color would also be interesting. I cant explain how much I have been wanting to do a Tron. I can see it in my head and I think when its all together its going look so different.

This is not finished, I have to stone, sand and polish them. But I am really digging the look. The first set I make is to get the design down. The next set will be more finished.

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I dropped the rail off the rear mounts and I realized I could lower the height by accident. It will speed up ball and I like the look of the rail against the back panel graphic in this mid height position. They will be a little higher then pictured, but you can see what I am trying to do and the light cycles will also be on top of rails too.

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Right side in progress. I have to extend this one as well.. I am happy so far. I need to straighten out spots and adjust, but I ran out of time for today.

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Ooooooofa! I got it! Center mounted flexable (led) neon lights for trails! This is just stupid! Roughly mounted to verify look, I’m sold! I need to make a few modifications to mount these and I will figure out a way to have these triggered, but I love it.. pictures with glass on and off. I will try reversing colors soon.
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Quick video of ball travel on lights.

I prefer wireforms over plastics and I found out I was not alone with the Mandalorian pro machine wireforms I made. Trons a beautifull game and its “the” game I always wanted to do.
They will come with the flexable neon light strips and power supplies. There are different colors available, but the blue and orange work for me. These are single color and do not change. I had tron twice before one with eli kit and one with total light show kit. These are brighter then both and the light just looks better as a solid strip of light. More like a trail like the cycle lights.

I will be making them height adjustable by backpanel with hardware. I planned on this previously as some might like them higher or lower and they can be fine tuned as a result with ball speed.

Thanks! I am buying a used plasma cutting table from a friend whos buying a bigger machine. I will be able to do more machines as a result. I will be able to make the metal ramp entances that star wars premiums have. And that would enable me to make wireforms for star wars. I am up to doing that game too. I just need to buy a pro, but I will get to it. Any other titles of interest please post.

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Merry christmas. I said I was not working on anything today, but its a tron christmas thanks to my wife.

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Welded in a lower channel to hold led strip light. I do not want anything to obstruct the visual of the beam. Pain to do, but I think its worth it. Also worked out entrance. I need to cut transfer plate and adjust to see.

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The channel works! Holds in place below the ball line under rails. Left rail 75 percent there. The orange looks better on this side. And ramp entrance bolts down through the two holes open for the fiber optic lights. They work perfectly for spacing. I can make a better looking ramp using all metal over plastic.

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Its actually pretty good. I had the arcade game in the past. It looks and sounds the same. The joystick is a little clicky, but plays fine. It comes with a riser and the stand up height is perfect. My blacklight and joystick lights dont work, but I am ok with that. Overall very happy with it. The discs of tron does not have the voices which does suck.

I could post mount the right side wireform, but there is no anchor points on the left ramp and that is why I mounted through the open holes. The entrances need to be solid. Not sure what I could do to alter the left. (See pictures). I will see if I can come up with a solution to not use the holes, but not sure because of the left side.

At the moment I am headed towards the two rails with lower channels for the led bendable lights only. I can also just sell them without any lights and leave that up to the buyers. Meaning the rails will have a channel that you can add any style or color that works for you.

I am still developing this set. I will have better ideas once both sides are completed with the switches and hardware installed. I need to find the balance of total costs and interested buyers.

I am guessing that if I can work out mounting not using the holes for fiber optic lights, there would be a choice. Rails with no lower channel with fiber on top rails or those with lower channel for others... we will get there...

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Back to left ramp. I am using heat shirk tubing to block the light so it only appears on the wireform and not visable from playfield hole. And I am working on the transition flap..

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Added mylar under flap, drilled plate, cut plate, made switch mounts and got left ramp together. I quit drinking April 21st 2005 today was quite a test of that choice! Wow did this suck to adjust..... Proto type 1 me 0..

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Missing right ramp but heres left being tested.

Suck fest! But thanks. Heres just a look over video of left.

Well I have to scrap the other ramp. It runs right into switch on the other. Trying a different way to make one using a guide wire showing the path. I copied the plastic ramps shapes and it turns out to be a mistake. Leason learned. Dont copy plastic ramps.. Booooo.

Adding pictures through out the day to this as to not post too much on topic.
12:30 base rails done.

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I am a small business that sells wireforms. A wire bending machine is almost 20k. As a result I shape everything by hand and tig weld by hand. I cant out produce a large company, but I have sold over 145 wireforms just for Mandalorian pros. Thats 290 wireforms made, tested and shipped since July. I will make and sell as many of anything I make in our shop. The only drawback is labor times as its done by hand and not machines.

Progressing. Routing is good with spacing. I swapped out a hold down plastic screw with a longer screw installed under the playfield for a mounting point. Working on channel for led light. I ran out of flat tempered steel, so I cant finish until I get my parts from marcos, but happily moving along.

Orange led strip is just to verify channel. It will be blue. Good day!
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Blue light not routed into playfield, but I just wanted to see the look as this rail is now corrected. I still have to mount switch, flasher and make plastic ramp. These are the two rails that I will improve upon, but hopefully you can see what I am shooting for!

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Agree, but it would block the arrow and disc inserts.

Thank you. This is the one machine I wanted to do the most because I had this idea of sub rail lighting below the ball. This single trail of light just look more like the light cycle trails. I had both other kits and each were great. But the lights look out of place looped around the ramps on top to me. If I had access to either kit (eli or total light show) i would have done the same thing putting the light to a single strip below the ball. I prefer the look of a single line of light and the only way that works is these new style channel rails. Side by side I hope you can see the visual difference. I only wanted to do wireforms to do lighting. The last step will be controlled lights.

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Amazon. Meijaijai led flexable, waterproof led driven colored strips. They are single color 12volt powered lights. The pictures dont do it justice. The color and brightness is amazing.

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The left ramp is way more complex. Been figuring out issues as the day went by. The biggest was the dukes of hazard jumps. Tweaking, adjusting and bleeding no good. Walk away and come back and All I had to do was add another guide wire to control bank velocity and exit. Works great now. I also wanted to try a different plastic to wireform transition. 2 hardened plates seem to work pretty well. I do not like the look of the right plastic entrance ramp. I had to cut a “v” to raise the ball from rail to ramp to eliminate stops.
If anyone has a better solution on transition from flat plastic ramp to wireform please jump in.

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Play video of both wireforms in action i need to get flap screws and mount right flasher with a spacer, but it looks amazing.
I also need to make mounts for the light cycles..

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I just picked up 12 foot sections of stainless rod to be able to make these wireforms one piece. I had to fuse 2 sections to make the first set. I also mounted both bikes on wire to mounting points in back area. I can include the smaller stainless rods which will enable you to mount the bikes where ever you want to in the back. I played it this morning and got to portal multiball. I have never gotten that far before. The rails are fast and smooth. I really prefer the look of rails over plastics. I will need to make 3 sets of these to get a average labor time for pricing. It will be a few weeks, but I will get there.

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Splitting alot of time with Mandalorian orders and trying to get back to finishing star wars pro ramps and wireforms design. I finished the right side, just need to do left. And I want to try another channel to hold lights using stainless plate. I got a cnc plasma table and I think I can do some cool stuff with it. I also got a customers time machine in my garage for wireforms. Busy, which is great. I will get the work load more balanced soon including tron. I need to learn the cnc software to try the channel idea. Instead of more wireform below, I want to see what stainless plates as a channel would look like over the extra wireforms. I think the look is worth trying and it also would hide the sides of led lighting. I see it in my head, I just need to nail down the cutting software as stainless plates are not cheap!

Heres pictures of the star wars pro in progress. The rail is inspired by the light bars on playfield art. I made the metal ramp with bent rods as a guide for the plasma cutter. Once both ramps are made I can then measure and program the machine to mass cut pieces that I just weld together.

Thanks! I am trying alot of things at the moment.

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Unobtainium ramps are staying with the machine. I have no plans to put them back on, but if I sell or trade the game some buyers are very picky and would want them back on.

Yes. I will be selling these as a mod soon.

The hard part of adding wirefoms to machines like Tron is the inserts are right at entrance points. I want to improve the plastic entrance ramps over what I made for these. They are working as they are, but I want them to be better. I am struggling to come up with a solution that improves them and does not cover the inserts. I made long stainless ramps for star wars and they look and perform great, but I cant do that here...
i could do stainless ramps here, but I would have to figure out a solution to the hidden disc and arrow inserts...
Currently working on a Led Zeppelin and Mandalorian scoop and wireform mod. I am hoping a solution comes up for Tron in the process. I need that eureka moment.

I got the solution to all my projects today working it out on Mandalorian. Instead of ramps lifting the ball I have wireform lifting it. It works. I am taking a break but today was huge for me design wise...
I will make a different wireform set for Tron with this style soon.... It will be the same as this c ramp but straight. I am really happy today.

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Thanks!

This is the scoop ramp next to right ramp on Star Wars. Hopefully you can see the idea. And a cut out metal flap will cover the the ramp flap cut out in playfield and wireform ramp will be on top.

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Redesign starting today.
Posting as day goes by editing this one.

Blocking plate left ramp.

Base rail.

Test piece left ramp entrance ramp. Very fast!!

Completed top, bottom and ramp.

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I still need to add led light channel, switches and flashers. Whats better on pinball then that wireform sound. Quick video of left ramp with the new design.

I am still using the two holes to secure the front of these ramps. The wireform as it is now needs to be secure at the entrance to maintain position and tension on the plate. I can try alternative solutions on another set after these are completed. I want these to just be bolt ons without having to screw into the playfield as well. I will look into options after pinfest in May. I need to complete this and other machines to bring to the show, so I will know in a few weeks if it can be done otherwise.

Right ramp in progress. I will update this post as it goes.

Lower rail routed...

Larger ramp entrance requires a spacer and hammering flat spots with heat applied. This this solved the problem of the larger spacing between thecrails. It works!

Upper rail, return lane and back mounts.

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The right ramp is able to mount on studs.. i will circle back to left at some point to see.

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Need flashers and switches to be added. I am shot for the day. These are alot of labor!

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I redid the left ramp to match the right side entrance design. I was able to use two through hole inserts that are stern installed by running a 3 inch screw from under the playfield to go to upper. I will make all sets mount this way leaving the light holes open.
Shipping will not be cheap in a larger box and bubble wrapped. These sets are almost 50 feet of stainless rods.
Finished the left ramp, I am sanding and polishing this one now. I need to finish right ramp later today. These ramps are very heavy on labor time. It takes 2 days to make them.
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Finished. Minor tweaks left and then installing later.

Left ramp 1.4 pounds!
Right ramp 1.7 pounds!

3.1 pounds without the bubblewrap, box and led lights.

This might just be a one off for my machine. Labor cost will be the highest on anything I have built 2 full days in these. It takes an hour to sand, stone and polish them as well, plus test fitting. Not sure where the interest would be at a high price point.
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Quick video of new design ramps. The runs are not adjusted and right drop also needs to be moved. I just was hell bent on a video!
I also want to open the tongue up a little on left ramp to match the right ramp performance. It needs to be a hair wider then it is now.

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I will put a price on them once I have made all the adjustments and playtest the hell out of them. Once this set is finalized I can make a template board to build other sets.

Tron will be at pinfest in my spot with Guns and Roses. I want to bring my Star Trek Discovery machine, but not sure yet. If your following this and are at pinfest you really need to stop by and see the led lights in person and say hello.

Set materials:
$19.88. 24 feet of stainless rod.
$9.00 argon gas over 150 welds.
$44.38. (2) led strip lights
$4.25. Tempered plates

Roughly $78 just in building materials.

Redid left ramp entrance and it does make a difference with the gap spacing and angles. Good day today. Got this and gnr ready for allentown.

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I want to try one more design. ( I am overly critical of myself). I am lucky to be very busy with completed designs for Star Wars, Mando and I just started on Rush. I want to tweak the left ramp entrance a hair more and I will come back to Tron when I get caught up. The overall costs of the ramps with shipping is going to be the most expensive mod I have done and I am hesitating because of that.

Good points and I just need to mentaly get there.

I am not using el wire. These are led outdoor light strips. They are very bright as the plastics are colored and bright white led lights are internal. They are about 1/2” tall and 1/4” wide. I make a channel below the wireforms that holds them in place. I am not sure how the owners of the fiber optic lights would be mounted as I do not have them. But, I could also just weld rings that they could be fed through from one end to the other. I would need info from someone that had them, just the outside diameter of the tube.

I am not making them. Price was going to be north of $1200 without shipping. I sold the machine a few months ago as a result. Thanks for the interest, but they were very very hard to make. They went with the machine.

It was over 27 feet of stainless rods. And since the ramps had inserts under them I could not cover them with stainless ramps like I did for guardians of the galaxy.(see pic). It was very time consuming hammer forming the ramp forks and adjusting the angles to the proper settings for the ball to go up them correctly. Stainless ramps connected to wireforms would be my solution, but you would lose the inserts. It works on guardians and looks great. On Tron it would be worth trying. I had tron twice. If I ever get another one I will try the stainless ramps as seen below..

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