This is about the only game I know of that the mods get top dollar for. People always say mods dont add value but I beg to differ. I’ll take a plain unmolested pro please. Don’t need all the bling, just want to play a good game. Bring on the VE.

I love that last line. It's so true.

As someone who only really got into owning Pinballs from 2013 (although a lifelong arcade nut), i can't imagine EVER buying a NIB game. I'm not a gambler & don't have the patience to wait years for a game to be 'done' before getting the maximum enjoyment from it. MY early-adopter urge to have the latest shiny things died long ago. VERY happy buying used but tidy machines with full features and complete rules, where the tweaks and fixes are documented (if not done already). I bought my IMVE 2nd or 3rd hand, but it could've been mistaken for NIB! Same for Tron Pro too - that was 2nd hand.

I don't mind buying used at all - however I would prefer new. But I am fairly new to the hobby. I am only going to get 3 pins. I am gainfully employed but I don't have a LOT of extra money for pins - and with my love of reefing, bourbon, and poker I manage to burn quite a few bucks each month. That said, I still save up for pinball machines. I am close to having enough set aside for pinball machine #2. Right now I am leaning toward MBr this summer. Then it will be a couple of years before getting the next one. If TRON VE comes out before then I will get it. If not, TRON VE will be #3. If TRON VE still isn't out I will look at the new pins and pick from them. I am very interested in JJP Toy Story if they make that. There are tons of good machines out there - so I don't worry too much about the TRON VE. IF they make it I will get it - if not I will get something else that I like. No biggie....

Tron lcd vault would be amazing. Let’s go Stern!!

Why would anyone expect a Tron Pro VE to be more than Pro pricing? They only released 2 versions of the game and they ain't gonna VE the LE. If it happens, it will be a Pro. I can't see them adding LE features or redoing display effects or any of that other stuff I see discussed. Now, if mnpinball says different, I'd be inclined to believe it coming from him. LOL

Because people WANT it so bad. Why would they go through all the trouble to bring it back at $5500 when they could sell a ton closer to $7,000?

Not sure if everybody has figured this out yet but Stern is in this pinball racket to make some money, not win friends.

Besides, every Tron pro on earth is covered with mods and alligator clips, just makes more sense for Stern to be the ones making money off this, not the mod guys and alligator clips wholesalers.

Are you familiar with SMVE? They made that nicer than the original and charged a price in the premium range. Will they VE the LE? No. But, don't be shocked (if it actually gets made) if they put on some ramp lights and another mod or two and charge a price similar to their premium model.

I certainly am familiar with it. That was an exception because they had to do new art and dots. Additionally, the amount of mechs in Spidey is closer to a modern day premium. One other thing is Spidey VE didn't sell well because of the price. Everyone crapped on Stern because of that.

I brought up that the TRON VE may be a better version of TRON than the TRON LE - and people may very well prefer the Vault version more than the LE. And people got pissed as hell at me about it.

IN MY OPINION, for the most part people that own TRON (especially the LE) don't want a VE. Really seem to loath the idea. There are some exceptions - thank God.

Not me.. I hope stern loads it up and then some!!

ST vault was a puzzler. There wasn't high demand that anyone knew of so perhaps this was just using up inventory of parts. I have my theory that Tron vault will be upgraded with LCD. It's the perfect game to do that to.

Rob

I really think that a lot of customers were still asking for them. I remember calling around at one point and no distributors had any left.

SAM doesn't support an LCD and Stern wouldn't change the entire system the game runs on to add LCD support (Spike). IF Tron VE ever happens it won't have an LCD.

That's if it isn't some kind of batman 66 scenario.

I'd for real stab somebody (does myself count?) for a Tron 82 with deeper rules and Lyman at the helm.

TRON “82” sounds great.

LCD and all the goodies. I am in for a LE!

I’m already preparing my video begging for the super LE just in case haha.

Maybe not LCD but why not a larger color display like CGC remakes

I think it’s coming and it will be a bit more special than a Pro. As long as the street price doesn’t blow by 7.5K, Stern will have plenty of takers.

Of course SAM doesn't support LCD. The point was that if they ever decided to test the waters with rewriting a game for SPIKE 2 and LCD, Tron would be a good candidate. Whether they do that or not, that's entirely up to Stern. Maybe it's a stretch to think about, but it's not impossible.

Rob

Agree - If TRON VE is made my bet is that it would have an LCD. May not of course...just my guess.

If it gets remade with an LCD and new artwork and playfield upgrades then to me it wouldn't be a Vault. They could just call it "Tron 82" or something else. Like they did with Batman 66. Is Batman 66 considered a Vault?

If TRON VE is made im in
Had a TRON LE and sold
Instant purchase without hesitation - One of Stern's Best

Actually this would make sense as people who own a Tron might get the BM66 upgrade one as well if they are different enough. But I think Legacy is better music and hot chicks.

No, as those games are incredibly different.

And IN MY OPINION Stern doesn't listen to owners of games when deciding to VE it or not. As a Tron owner, I'm totally fine with Stern creating a VE model of Tron. It's a great game, and if more people can own it, that's awesome.

I sold my Tron Pro 2012 edition a few years ago to fund The Walking Dead. If Tron is released as a Vault Edition in the next 12 months, I'd love to replace it.

I wasn’t even thinking tron 82 as a kappow title but I could see that happening.

Money.

It’s a great game though all around. Tron tron tron.

Classic 80s would be sweet.. But I do like the Daft Punk music better than the original Wendy Carlos

Make it classic 80s but keep the Daft Punk music.

This is my favorite from the original soundtrack.

Anthem.

My feeling is if Stern does a VE it will be priced as a premium and include everything the LE did minus the 3D translite.

It would make sense to upgrade to LCD/Spike2 as well as the video stuff on the DMD is hideous at best. I’m pretty confident they can run the actual SAM game code on Spike2 boards with minimal effort, the service menus are still all DMD versions, for example. Plus the video from the movie looks fantastic as-is and wouldn’t need a lot of additional graphics created, you could lean pretty heavily on it for the display content.

So yeah, and LCD Tron VE would be awesome. Though I doubt that they’d bother unless there were some compelling BoM savings to be had vs DMD/SAM at this point.

If they did vault edition with lighted ramps, drop targets and draft punk multiball, no moving recognizes, no chrome, no special translight, no plaque....I don’t care how many pro editions they made back in the day..... they would sell 500-600 more games. Just my 2 cents

They can'r run SAM code on SPIKE. The two systems work completely differently. The code would have to be ported.

They run the SAM menus on Spike... Maybe they could emulate SAM game code on Spike too? I don't see it happening but it might be possible.

Code can be ported to other systems, even different languages. If you have the source code you are in very good shape to port it - and you don't need emulation (unless you want to go that route). I am in software development - happens all the time. They aren't 'stuck' on past platforms for VEs unless they want to be.

The menus have the same appearance as SAM, but that doesn’t mean they are running SAM code. Whitestar looked the same too.

Agreed. There is an effort, but it can be done.

Anything can be done. (And I hope WILL be done). IMO.

If I could have my way, it would be a tron 82 retheme vault.

It won't be as easy to take my money after I get a tron in the living room... I can stop obsessing.

It’s not a ve, but I have a heavily modded Tron pro in the marketplace for trade!

please don't compare that turd of a vault with one of sterns best. what a joke that game turned out to be.

My one owner huo is available
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shit ton of trons for sale right now. something in the air?

the price is high so people are selling.

I had offer for $7K for mine but decided to keep because I am not sure if will be made again.

I think will be made some time but can not be certain. Anyways (IMO) if they make a vault might be like the prior pro editions so will need $1-2K in mods to get up to a lot of the for sale pins. Same price net-net. I mean the Tron Vault will cost $5600 then $1-2K in mods ($7K either way nicely loaded).

I am an original owner of a Tron Pro and I’d still be tempted on a VE if they managed to spin it like the original Tron somehow. Not sure how they’d pull that off though.

I'm a Tron owner and would DEFINITELY go for a Tron 82....unless they left Bit out of the game....then I would call bullsh*t.

There will always be some with insider info on what is coming. It happened with IMVE and also with ACDC Luci. In both cases you saw games suddenly for sale, some still NIB, just a few weeks before the VE were officially announced.

And it could be fueled by mere speculation and others suddenly for sale.

Rob

I still don't understand the Tron pricing game. The vault comes out, it's going to be priced higher than a pro otherwise Stern has decided to sell a bare bone release of Tron and guys will spend 1-2k modding them.

With that pricing, aren't we back at where a nice Tron pro is now? Where does the plummet really happen?

Even better question on the LE - Stern would never vault a game that incorporates code from LE - they confirmed this when vaults became a reality. I'm not sure if they would take features like the El wires from it either. Therefore I really don't see any impact at all on the LE.

Maybe I'm missing something?

Yeah but if they did a bare bones remake of the pro can they justify the current pro price? The new pros have so much more going on with RGB inserts, color display, etc. If it’s SAM or Whitestar with original dots it should be under $5K. I think a lot of people would be in at this price range.