Right before they said bm66 would get updates every 2 weeks and right after they said they're almost ready to release the spike schematics

Please tell us what the BOM is for Tron and compare it to the BOM on other makes and models.

Thanks!

Can we get a coil count here please?

The Stern Matrix says **subject to adjustment** Tron is old. Stern will do what sells. +LCD screen.

Also after 500 Munster LEs turned to 600 overnight..

Simpsons will never happen. The game is around $4500 now used. Assuming they can relicense all the assets / actor callouts, etc and the VE comes out at $6500 minimum. Makes no sense. VE games need to be going for something within a reasonable range of the used prices.

Has there ever been a Tron VE thread where someone tells us how low the BOM of Tron is but can't actually cite even a ballpark on what it is or how much cheaper it is than any other game?

What is it about Tron that gives people BOM fever?

Yep have also heard the same thing.
Not going to happen.

I hope not anyway.

Wow, look at that poll. 52 yeses and 0 noes so far!

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Like clockwork

$3763.27.

I came to that conclusion by trying to remember exactly what a Tron looks like from memory, I saw one in person once years ago, and by typing a random value.

Well, count me in for a Tron. I love the theme and that's what is important to me, it's fun to play with great code. All the rumored themes coming in 2019 from Stern don't interest me.

TRON VE threads amuse me. The run hot and people get excited and hopeful. Then people come to in and try to cool it off by saying people really don’t want it because you can find one now, or people won’t pay 7k for a vault.

When I checked last year TRON is the most requested by search results in thread followed by LOTR.

I would/will by a TRON VE at up to 8k with an lcd.

VEs are reruns of older games to keep the line moving and to satisfy demand of older titles. They can put an older title back on the line because they have the tooling and there's no new development needed. The most we can expect, in terms of new, on a Tron VE is a display panel decal since the later runs of IM and MET and others have added one. The only exception was Spidey since the Toby movies were old and Sony had moved on to Andrew Garfield, at that point. It was premium priced because the amount of "stuff" in the game was over what Pros get these days. If Tron VE happens, it'll be a Pro with LEDs in the new cabinet/backbox.

I thought Tron had like 50 bucks worth of plastic and metal in it, another few hundred bucks for boards and the cabinet.

Come on Stern...it's a No-Brainer!!!

Nope, I was obsessed before and I’m still obsessed now!

Agreed. We're told there are enough of them but are asked to pay 7K or higher for a used Pro? If I'm going to spend 7K I'd rather just put it towards a brand new one.

Fuckin A

In one of the recent videos/interviews with Lyman Tron code came up and if he would make another update. I got the impression that he caught himself from saying something regarding Tron release.

One of the Head to Head Pinball Podcast indicated a he was hearing a Vault but with new art and for this year.

I think you mean
#1 Tron
#2 LOTR
#3 TSPP.

I don't care if it has new art or if they keep the same. But I won't buy it if they change the music, has to be Daft Punk.

I have yet to see a nice one, pristine. Most are kinda beat up and the cabinets are faded. I'm pretty picky about what I buy...

At the prices Tron and LOTR go on the market nowadays it seems vault editions would be a good idea.

Tron is so good I might buy a VE and put it next to my Pro

Not accurate. All Tron 1st runs (LE and Pro) had the 3D translight. Anyone can add chrome trim and only the first couple dozen had signed PF's.

I'm all for a Tron VE and would be happy to see it with ramp lights, drops and moving recognizer.

I'd be lying if them adding Daft Punk MB wouldn't get under my skin a bit.

Didn't the LE's come with a mirrored backglass?

I've owned Tron twice and if they came out with a vault with different art I'd probably buy one, depending on price. Tron is just that good.

All this TRON talk inspired me. Reached Portal (a rare event for me, played Daft Punk MB (aka End-Of-Line MB). What a blast.

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Nope. Same as the pro. I agree though. I waited 3 years for a VE and gave in and bought my LE when a deal came up I couldn't pass up. Best 28 hour round trip road trip of my life.

A TRON Vault - Converted to Spike 2 with full LCD support with licensed movie footage and theme - appropriate art style, upgraded sound system, RGB lighting, lit ramps, etc would sell at 10k all day long. probably more if they limited it.

As a matter of fact, Stern could take Vault to a new level - a "Boutique Vault Edition" or something exclusive thats limited to 250 machines as described above with the full Spike conversion...they would sell all 250 at $15,000 in less than a week.

Yes correct. I forgot about LOTR

I'm sure it was only the first 50 were signed.. Both the LE's i have owned were signed.

Because this is the hobby now. People only buy games new in a box. No one searches them out or works on/shops out their own games anymore.

This will be great in the future for those of us who like to buy cheaper & fix...when the current type of newb collectors finally get bored or don't want to bother fixing their games, they'll all get blown out on the 2nd hand market for way cheaper.

It's just a fact of the era when it came out. You had games with lots of custom mechs and expensive features that didn't sell. Then came the Borg-only era of 2009-2011. NBA = remake of Space Jam with less stuff. Iron Man = Remake of Austin Powers with less stuff. Tron = No unique playfield mechs at all...just a spinning disc. Avatar, BBH, Rolling Stones...all relatively simplistic games that were quick to design, cheap to make.

For the record, I find all of these games a lot of fun to play...so I'm not ripping on them in that respect...but they were much cheaper on R&D and BOM than the games that came before it like BDK, WOF, FGY, POTC, SM.

I dunno, heard they hired a new line supervisor.

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Didn't they already do that with Batman the Dark Knight and Batman 66????

I would like a tron outfit. For Halloween. Need to watch the original. I bet Veronica has never seen it!

Watch me slide us into a tron at home...

I would bet that the next 2 vault machines will be Tron, LOTR , and Pirates OTC since those machines are the ones selling at a price much higher than they were when they were originally released ... They will sell more Tron and LOTR machines now then they did when they were originally released ...

Good point! definately can look at it that way. It gets a little "grey" since BM66 was a partial redesign of the actual playfield whereas i think everyone wants the TRON layout to remain untouched but yes, at least BM66 is precedent to show that they can do something like this.

Tron and LOTR makes sense but i think the world has enough POTC pins....total fatigue at this point. The new JJP has soft sales and reception, the Stern version is pretty dated and selling around 4000-4500....no comparison to the potential as a Vault for Tron or LOTR.

People expect a Tron VE with LE features for Ironman vault prices.

TSPP is an extremely expensive pin to build...built before Stern sharpened the pencil. IMHO, one of the best built Stern's ever made...the quality of all the toys is first rate. TSPP and LOTR were my first 2 pins (back in 2004). Still have LOTR, but sold TSPP a long time ago...

Very highly unlikely to ever be vaulted. If Stern decided to bring it back, they would charge LE prices or cheapen it.

Disney World has started construction on a new Tron ride........ they are going to need some new Pinballs.

No, they want a TRON VE and will pay premium prices. Stern knows if they make a badass TRON vault it will do very very well. People should know by now that Stern isn't going to just run a TRON Pro and charge 5500. Those days are gone.

Also, IF stern does a TRON vault most people won't care about the original LE model...