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Tron VE in 2020


By fattdirk

1 year ago



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“Tron VE in 2019?”

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#651 66 days ago
Quoted from northvibe:

All talk of the transcript was making it sound like tron but not a “sequel” of legacy. Just a movie about something in the universe.

It's Tron!! Close enough!

#652 65 days ago
Quoted from Saltimbanco:

It's Tron!! Close enough!

Hahah, how could you do tron without gem and quorra

#653 65 days ago
Quoted from northvibe:

Hahah, how could you do tron without gem and quorra

I don't think you have to do Gem and Quorra - but I sure would! (giggity)

#654 65 days ago

Personally I hope they never do TRON VE or LOTR VE, it just keeps the myth alive. Seeing a Tron in the wild is just magical. Same with Big Bang Bar and even Aliens.

If they do a complete new TRON 3, now that would be something!

1 week later
#655 57 days ago

Still hoping Stern will vault Tron, agree they could do a full new Tron 3, or based it on Tron Uprising, with cartoonish approach like the new Avengers..

#656 57 days ago
Quoted from Saltimbanco:

Still hoping Stern will vault Tron, agree they could do a full new Tron 3, or based it on Tron Uprising, with cartoonish approach like the new Avengers..

I'd be happy with the original Tron layout, foil cabinet decals, new cabinet and LCD display. That's my wish!

#657 56 days ago
Quoted from ahdelarge:

I'd be happy with the original Tron layout, foil cabinet decals, new cabinet and LCD display. That's my wish!

I agree. IF they vault it I would like an updated TRON Legacy pin.

And I doubt 2020 is the year...

#658 56 days ago
Quoted from Goronic:

I agree. IF they vault it I would like an updated TRON Legacy pin.
And I doubt 2020 is the year...

That's exactly what I would like, however I have learned to temper my expectations and aim for whatever we could get from Stern at this point! So, anything Tron really, would suit me fine!

#659 56 days ago
Quoted from PeterG:

Personally I hope they never do TRON VE or LOTR VE, it just keeps the myth alive. Seeing a Tron in the wild is just magical. Same with Big Bang Bar and even Aliens.
If they do a complete new TRON 3, now that would be something!

Tron is more for collectors and home players. We have one in the wild and it doesn't get much attention. At least not like you think it would.

#660 56 days ago
Quoted from RustyLizard:

Tron is more for collectors and home players. We have one in the wild and it doesn't get much attention. At least not like you think it would.

I fit the home player category! We rarely see Tron up here in Canuck country. Mostly, I love the theme and big sci-fi fan..

#661 56 days ago

Let them vault the pro all they want. Vaulting the premium will piss off some folks.

#662 56 days ago

I keep seeing wish lists. If they vault it, that means no new features like LCD or lighted ramps. Vault is a rerun of a game, not a newly updated game. You might get metallic decals like Ironman, but you won't get LCD.

#663 56 days ago
Quoted from RC_like_the_cola:

I keep seeing wish lists. If they vault it, that means no new features like LCD or lighted ramps. Vault is a rerun of a game, not a newly updated game. You might get metallic decals like Ironman, but you won't get LCD.

Perhaps no LCD, they can upgrade the dmd to blue though & what about when they vaulted AC/DC and added the "swinging bell" to the Pro. So that was originally an exclusive feature of the Premium / LE. It would be the same thing if they added the moving recognizer.

Also Stern can simply introduce it as a premium vault and slap on a 7,699 price tag on them with lighted ramps and a few minor tweaks and they would likely fly off the line. The TRON VE won't happen until likely 2021.

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#664 56 days ago
Quoted from mrclean:

Perhaps no LCD, they can upgrade the dmd to blue though & what about when they vaulted AC/DC and added the "swinging bell" to the Pro. So that was originally an exclusive feature of the Premium / LE. It would be the same thing if they added the moving recognizer.
Also Stern can simply introduce it as a premium vault and slap on a 7,699 price tag on them with lighted ramps and a few minor tweaks and they would likely fly off the line. The TRON VE won't happen until likely 2021.

They added that swinging bell to pros before Vault was ever a thing. Once they moved to LEDs and the new cabinet, the next run of ACDC pro had the bell, but was not a Vault.

You won't see lighted ramps and they won't create a premium when there never was one (even though the LE was technically labled premium). Tron pro is all they will Vault, IF they do. It will be all LED and may have new decals, possibly a new translight, but no ramp lights or extras.

#665 56 days ago
Quoted from RC_like_the_cola:

They added that swinging bell to pros before Vault was ever a thing. Once they moved to LEDs and the new cabinet, the next run of ACDC pro had the bell, but was not a Vault.
You won't see lighted ramps and they won't create a premium when there never was one (even though the LE was technically labled premium). Tron pro is all they will Vault, IF they do. It will be all LED and may have new decals, possibly a new translight, but no ramp lights or extras.

Have you not seen the Spiderman Vault?

#666 55 days ago

It needs to be an updated Tron Legacy for sure.

#667 55 days ago
Quoted from ahdelarge:

Have you not seen the Spiderman Vault?

Sure have. That was done based on necessity. Couldn't use the Toby movies any longer, as Andrew Garfield was Sidey at that time and they figured, comic art was the way to go.

#668 55 days ago

So, how do we go about getting a new Tron made, with all of what we want already installed, with added capacity so we can mod later? (E.g. extra harnesses, brackets ready installed, etc.)

Do we come up with a list of names of people that want one? We could give this to Stern's product & development/sales team. Stern could get a deposit process going. With a solid list of buyers with deposits, it could be enough for them to start get this going..

#669 55 days ago
Quoted from Saltimbanco:

So, how do we go about getting a new Tron made, with all of what we want already installed, with added capacity so we can mod later? (E.g. extra harnesses, brackets ready installed, etc.)
Do we come up with a list of names of people that want one? We could give this to Stern's product & development/sales team. Stern could get a deposit process going. With a solid list of buyers with deposits, it could be enough for them to start get this going..

Stern knows we want a Tron vault.

#670 55 days ago
Quoted from Trekkie1978:

Stern knows we want a Tron vault.

Yes, they know. But they also want us to have a bunch of Avengers, TMNT, etc. We must compel them to go ahead with a Tron reboot. Having hundreds/thousand? of pre-pre-orders with money commitments attached to it conveys that. I'd be willing to sponsor 200-300$ towards making it happen.

#671 55 days ago
Quoted from RC_like_the_cola:

Sure have. That was done based on necessity. Couldn't use the Toby movies any longer, as Andrew Garfield was Sidey at that time and they figured, comic art was the way to go.

Actually, I doubt it was quite that exactly. The Screen Actor Guild (SAG) is quite powerful, and contracts over things like the use of actor depictions is tightly controlled by contract. Using actor images depends on the specific contract the actor has with the movie company. The rights to use an actors image beyond marketing of a film sometimes requires a separate contract, possible residual payments, or minimally the permission of the actor. This is one of the reasons #BTTF doesn't feature MJF's image. It is likely that even to use Toby McGuire's image may have required paying him a residual or even a new contract if the old one had lapsed. Using Andrew Garfield et al. would likely have required new contracts depending on their deals with Sony.

Additionally, Spider-man itself has an added wrinkle, Sony owns the picture rights and Marvel/Disney owns the rest. This led to some drama last year over renewing the agreement that allowed Spidey to show up in MCU (and vice-versa). Using comic depictions of Spidey (and many associated friends/foes) only requires Marvel licensing, using movie depictions might require *both* Sony and Marvel licensing (partly controlled by which characters are included, etc).

These are some of the reasons we are unlikely to see a remake of something like #TAF. Even if Williams licensing for the property were still intact *and* that licensing spanned the post-sale Williams dramas, The underlying contracts with the actors probably expired or would require permission/residuals/renegotiation. Now using the images from the 2019 CGI version would be less problematic, but voices would likely need to be re-recorded (again depending on actor contracts).

#672 55 days ago
Quoted from Saltimbanco:

So, how do we go about getting a new Tron made, with all of what we want already installed, with added capacity so we can mod later? (E.g. extra harnesses, brackets ready installed, etc.)
Do we come up with a list of names of people that want one? We could give this to Stern's product & development/sales team. Stern could get a deposit process going. With a solid list of buyers with deposits, it could be enough for them to start get this going..

They are not going to change their business model to sell 500 remakes. Tsking deposits would be a major hassle for them. If it makes business sense to them there will maybe be a remake.

#673 55 days ago
Quoted from gecko157:

It needs to be an updated Tron Legacy for sure.

I agree

#674 55 days ago

It’s not Stern’s business model but I would put a $1000 towards a deposit on a Tron VE. Hell I would just pay for it in full ahead of time if it meant they were going to vault it.

They know we want it, we have been begging for years for it to be vaulted.

Sadly as more time goes on the less likely I think it is to happen.

#675 55 days ago

I bet they have all of the parts to vault several games. They will pull the trigger if there are delays on new launches or if they need to, until that time Tron sits in a bunch of boxes unassembled

#676 55 days ago

With the way Avengers is selling, they don’t need to vault anything. If anything, they should push back their next release a little if sales on Avengers stay healthy.

#677 55 days ago
Quoted from RustyLizard:

They are not going to change their business model to sell 500 remakes. Tsking deposits would be a major hassle for them. If it makes business sense to them there will maybe be a remake.

I'm putting out feelers, obviously having hundreds of people willing to fork out money would not be the only thing Stern may consider. If you're here on this post, it's because you want a Tron to be vaulted, right? I'm just saying we can have a thousand post talking about it, it won't make any difference. Write to Stern with a thousand names and $ commitments, they will start to do more than just know we want one. People do online start ups for less than that. Or let's all wait for Avengers' 13th Edition..

#678 55 days ago
Quoted from Saltimbanco:

I'm putting out feelers, obviously having hundreds of people willing to fork out money would not be the only thing Stern may consider. If you're here on this post, it's because you want a Tron to be vaulted, right? I'm just saying we can have a thousand post talking about it, it won't make any difference. Write to Stern with a thousand names and $ commitments, they will start to do more than just know we want one. People do online start ups for less than that. Or let's all wait for Avengers' 13th Edition..

I just disagree with tha being how it works. I own a nice Tron and can't see them building one that was any better.

I want it vaulted so more people can play a great game. They have read everything on here. Names and deposits won't be the deciding factor.

#679 55 days ago
Quoted from RustyLizard:

I just disagree with tha being how it works. I own a nice Tron and can't see them building one that was any better.
I want it vaulted so more people can play a great game. They have read everything on here. Names and deposits won't be the deciding factor.

We agree on that part: it's a great, beautifully themed game! Wish I had one and waiting for it..

#680 55 days ago
Quoted from Saltimbanco:

I'm putting out feelers, obviously having hundreds of people willing to fork out money would not be the only thing Stern may consider. If you're here on this post, it's because you want a Tron to be vaulted, right? I'm just saying we can have a thousand post talking about it, it won't make any difference. Write to Stern with a thousand names and $ commitments, they will start to do more than just know we want one. People do online start ups for less than that. Or let's all wait for Avengers' 13th Edition..

Dude stern knows we want it. TRON and LOTR are the most demanded vaults. There have be dozens and dozens of on going TRON Vault threads for years. You’re new so google tron vault pinside and you will see all the threads over the years. They know the demand is there and sending a list of names and money is stupid that isn’t how stern works. They know there is demand. They will either re-up the license and make it or they won’t. All we can do is keep talking about it and wait.

#681 55 days ago
Quoted from gecko157:

Dude stern knows we want it. TRON and LOTR are the most demanded vaults. There have be dozens and dozens of on going TRON Vault threads for years. You’re new so google tron vault pinside and you will see all the threads over the years. They know the demand is there and sending a list of names and money is stupid that isn’t how stern works. They know there is demand. They will either re-up the license and make it or they won’t. All we can do is keep talking about it and wait.

Yes, I'm new to Pinside, I'll look up those posts, tks.

#682 55 days ago

I don’t think stern would need money down to vault TRON, or I would pay in full right now. So I’ll just wait...

#683 54 days ago
Quoted from gecko157:

Dude stern knows we want it. TRON and LOTR are the most demanded vaults. There have be dozens and dozens of on going TRON Vault threads for years. You’re new so google tron vault pinside and you will see all the threads over the years. They know the demand is there and sending a list of names and money is stupid that isn’t how stern works. They know there is demand. They will either re-up the license and make it or they won’t. All we can do is keep talking about it and wait.

Good point. We just keep talking about it and it will come.

#684 53 days ago

I would think Stern won't build these as it would mean to the community they will re run everything! This is something they probably don't want as it would ruin the collector aspect in pinball and they too rely on this to a certain extent.

#685 53 days ago
Quoted from wcbrandes:

I would think Stern won't build these as it would mean to the community they will re run everything! This is something they probably don't want as it would ruin the collector aspect in pinball and they too rely on this to a certain extent.

I also think the time has past. If they were gonna do it, it would have been done already. Just look at their track record. Have they ever vaulted a title this long after it’s last run? How many years has it been? Tron isn’t relevant (yet) amongst the common person (non pinheads). It also doesn’t do well on location from what I’ve read here. Best bet is an all new Tron after the 3rd movie comes out.

#686 51 days ago

I don't get it ... people have been wishing for a 5th rerun or VE for many years now ...... and Stern has not done it. All that time wasted wishing for a game when a simple WTB Tron ad in the marketplace could have put a nice used one in their lineup years ago.

#687 50 days ago
Quoted from Max_Badazz:

I don't get it ... people have been wishing for a 5th rerun or VE for many years now ...... and Stern has not done it. All that time wasted wishing for a game when a simple WTB Tron ad in the marketplace could have put a nice used one in their lineup years ago.

Maybe those people want a brand new in box game? Maybe they are hoping for updated cabinet art or other features.

I'd love to own Tron again, but I'm not in a rush to seek out a used game. I'm happy to wait and see if there's some kind of Vault Edition of the game. So right now, it's fun to speculate and discuss an awesome pinball machine. There's more of a chance of Stern doing another run of a simple game like Tron, than it is Lord of the Rings. They've re-made Iron Man recently and the two are very similar and both Disney licenses.

#688 50 days ago

I’d love new hand drawn PF art.

#689 50 days ago
Quoted from rai:

I’d love new hand drawn PF art.

Imagine if Tron got the Zombie Yeti treatment..... IMAGINE IT!!!!

#690 50 days ago

How about if one of the other manufacturers license TRON instead ? If stern does not want to revisit I would be happy to see someone else give it a shot. Just keep it flowy and get me that soundtrack again. JJP got pirates.... tron is family friendly theme....maybe a good fit. American pinball, could be a good theme to grab. Probably not as big as avengers, but still a pretty hardcore base.

By the way, all for a vault, but not sure if we are ever going to see it.

#691 50 days ago

Stern is probably building as many pins as they can at the moment but nothing to say they won’t drop something out of the blue, like SW comic (wasn’t expecting that) and that was enough for me to drop money on a nib from Stern first time since STLE.

#692 50 days ago
Quoted from Max_Badazz:

I don't get it ... people have been wishing for a 5th rerun or VE for many years now ...... and Stern has not done it. All that time wasted wishing for a game when a simple WTB Tron ad in the marketplace could have put a nice used one in their lineup years ago.

I'm sure there are a lot of people that would love to see Tron get remade but would not buy one. It would be on their wish list but probably buy some other new game first.

#693 46 days ago
Quoted from jawjaw:

I'm sure there are a lot of people that would love to see Tron get remade but would not buy one. It would be on their wish list but probably buy some other new game first.

Not me...I'll get one for sure - unless they completely F it up

#694 40 days ago
Quoted from ahdelarge:

Maybe those people want a brand new in box game? Maybe they are hoping for updated cabinet art or other features.
I'd love to own Tron again, but I'm not in a rush to seek out a used game. I'm happy to wait and see if there's some kind of Vault Edition of the game. So right now, it's fun to speculate and discuss an awesome pinball machine. There's more of a chance of Stern doing another run of a simple game like Tron, than it is Lord of the Rings. They've re-made Iron Man recently and the two are very similar and both Disney licenses.

Real Talk.
But know, no one can ever own a TRON.
TRON is programmed to own the User.
Opening a NIB TRON is the ultimate libation from the Grid.

#695 40 days ago
Quoted from PaulCoff:

Real Talk.
But know, no one can ever own a TRON.
TRON is programmed to own the User.
Opening a NIB TRON is the ultimate libation from the Grid.

I’m experiencing what you’re coding user

#696 39 days ago

GAME !

#697 34 days ago

I did like the Tron Legacy movie, but not enough to buy the pin (too expensive nowadays).
A "Tron '82" remake with all-new assets would get my $. Game rules and playfield can stay the same, but the art and assets need an upgrade.
My only concern is the new game might feel as spiritless, sterile, and stoic as the movie. Like the new Avengers...

#698 32 days ago

For those saying that there's an abundance of Tron Pro pinball machines in the world, spare a thought for us Aussies.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/condell-park/collectables/tron-pinball-machine/1257841177

$19,900 for a routed Tron Pro with mods. That's roughly $14,000 USD.

#699 32 days ago

There is a new Tron movie already greenlit so why not wait and create an all-new Tron game with clips. I wouldn't want to see a Tron VE game without a full color screen with movie clips. JJP made Hobbit after Stern had dont LOTR. JJP made Pirates after Stern had already done a Pirates. If you believe the rumors that JJP got Avatar that would be yet another game getting a second lease on life within pinball.

Why not a new Tron game that incorporates all three films wrapped around new technology. If Stern or JJP gets their games with wifi Tron is the perfect game to kick it off with!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6604188/reference

#700 32 days ago
Quoted from ahdelarge:

For those saying that there's an abundance of Tron Pro pinball machines in the world, spare a thought for us Aussies.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/condell-park/collectables/tron-pinball-machine/1257841177
$19,900 for a routed Tron Pro with mods. That's roughly $14,000 USD.

You could air freight one from the US and even with the conversion rate and all costs included it will still work out thousands cheaper than the gumtree listing.

Wait until Scomo turns off the free money tap and the market will drop back to the norm.

Most people down here currently have more cash at bank than they have ever had in their entire working lives - but it isn't going to last forever.

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