(Topic ID: 150779)

Tron: the "movie-faithful" music remix


By nosro

3 years ago



Topic Stats

  • 160 posts
  • 51 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 7 months ago by insx
  • Topic is favorited by 50 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic Gallery

There have been 5 images uploaded to this topic. (View topic image gallery).

daft_punk_(resized).jpg
Screen_Shot_2016-04-25_at_3.02.37_PM_(resized).png
Tron_right_DP_(resized).png
Tron_right_DP_(resized).png
Tron_left_(resized).png

There are 160 posts in this topic. You are on page 1 of 4.
16
#1 3 years ago

INTRODUCTION
This is a work in progress and I am documenting this here in case there are those who can help or have suggestions, particularly with the "???" in the song list below. Many thanks to oga83 for the excellent Pinball Browser that makes all this possible: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/acdc-display-and-modify-dot-matrix-images

Downloads
See here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-music-replacement-work-in-progress/page/3#post-3091321
For those who want to customize: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-music-replacement-work-in-progress/page/4#post-3317935

CHANGE LOG
Version 20: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-music-replacement-work-in-progress#post-2943625
Version 36: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-music-replacement-work-in-progress#post-2986569
Version 41: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-music-replacement-work-in-progress/page/2#post-3030211
Version 3A and 44 described here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-music-replacement-work-in-progress/page/2#post-3075713
"Final" version is here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tron-music-replacement-work-in-progress/page/3#post-3091321

OBJECTIVES
My objective is to replace all music in the game with Daft Punk music from the Tron Legacy soundtrack or the Tron Legacy Reconfigured album while being faithful to the film. For example, I wish to use music during the Light Cycle scene in the movie during the pinball machine's Light Cycle mode. Remixes will be used to fit within the allocated time. As is well known, only three Daft Punk tracks could be afforded by the budget.

PROPOSALS AND ALTERNATIVES
The following are the music tracks in the game and the proposed replacement:

- 448 Quorra: keep current OST / Derezzed ; or Derezzed (nhato Remix)
- 44A Quorra ???: keep current OST / Derezzed ; or Derezzed (nhato Remix)
- 44B Sea of Simulation: OST / Sea of Simulation (Amazon Exclusive)
- 44C Match: Reconfigured / The Son of Flynn (Moby Remix) ; or The Son Of Flynn (Goose Remix) R3J3CT3D ; or Reconfigured / Arena (Japanese Popstars Remix)
- 44D waiting for Disc War restart, starts at 15.069 of 44C: Reconfigured / The Son of Flynn (Moby Remix) ; or OST / Arena ; or Reconfigured / Arena (Japanese Popstars Remix)
- 44E Disc War: OST / Arena ; or Reconfigured / Arena (Japanese Popstars Remix)
- 44F Waiting for Rinzler, loops back at 0.3 seconds: Tron Legacy OST / Rinzler ; or Reconfigured / Rinzler (Kaskade Remix)
- 450 ZUSE: OST / Castor
- 451 GEM: Reconfigured / End of Line (Boyz Noize Remix)
- 452 ???: Reconfigured / Solar Sailer (Pretty Lights Remix)
- 453 ???: Reconfigured / Solar Sailer (Pretty Lights Remix)
- 454 Light Cycle: OST / The Game Has Changed ; or Reconfigured / The Grid (Crystal Method Remix) ; or TRON Legacy Mindless Faith Mix
- 456 Quorra: keep current OST / Derezzed ; or Derezzed (nhato Remix)
- 457 CLU2 ???: Reconfigured / CLU (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
- 458 CLU: Reconfigured / CLU (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
- 459 Game Over music, Portal: Reconfigured / The Grid (Crystal Method Remix) ; or The Grid (Alcala Remix)
- 45A Game play default short: keep current OST / End title song ; or Tron Legacy End Titles (Cyberslave remix)
- 45B Game play default: keep current OST / End title song ; or Tron Legacy End Titles (Cyberslave remix)

#2 3 years ago

I got ahead of myself and already made some apron cards during a break from music editing. These are sized to print on 4x6 photo paper. Be sure to turn off "edge bleed". Or turn on "fit to page".

Perhaps someone with more artistic skill can design something with better Daft Punk graphics.

Tron_left_(resized).png
Tron_right_DP_(resized).png
Tron_right_DP_(resized).png

#3 3 years ago

Ill be your beta tester!

#5 3 years ago

Please redo!!! Keep moving forward!!!! Just spend the time cutting the tracks right.... I believe you can make it really awesome with your track selection.

Please be sure to release pro and LE code.

I'll help test too if you need, if not no prob. Sometimes it's good to produce with your own ear

#6 3 years ago

My opinion:

45a
45b

Feel free to experiment changing these

I'm not sure to what, I'll throw out a few ideas soon, if you'd like

#7 3 years ago

Yes, I have seen that. It was the inspiration for this.

I hope to have more seemless edit points and use songs thematically consistent with the movie. For example, I don't want to use the song in the ZUSE nightclub movie scene for the Light Cycle multiball

I also want to normalize and compress the volume levels to avoid having to adjust the music volume in the menu, which tends to mess up some of the music fades during game play.

#8 3 years ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

My opinion:
45a
45b
Feel free to experiment changing these
I'm not sure to what, I'll throw out a few ideas soon, if you'd like

I am struggling with 45A and 45B which is the end title song. For one, it is already Daft Punk and is one of the few recognizable hits of the soundtrack. For two, I am having trouble identifying a thematically appropriate song that kicks ass. Any ideas?

#9 3 years ago

I could really use help on:
452- where is this used?
453- where is this used?
44C- where is this used besides match sequence?

#10 3 years ago
Quoted from nosro:

- 451 GEM: Reconfigured / End of Line (Boyz Noize Remix)

The music in the current remix is PERFECT for the mode. Just wish it was possible for it to last longer so it doesn't loop the way it does.
I'm happy to try anything out but not sure if I could let that one go!

#11 3 years ago

Interested in seeing how this turns out!

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

The music in the current remix is PERFECT for the mode. Just wish it was possible for it to last longer so it doesn't loop the way it does.
I'm happy to try anything out but not sure if I could let that one go!

I rather like it, too. But I can't change the length. And as great as David Thiel is, my objective here is to go with as much Daft Punk as possible.

#13 3 years ago

VERSION 20

Some notes:
1) Sorry for the poor quality. I have no professional video equipment or skills.
2) I normally play with a subwoofer, but this was messing up the camera's automatic audio recording level, so I disconnected it. That said, I did all my work with a subwoofer and Daft Punk deserves a subwoofer.
3) My objective was more Daft Punk, not necessarily more disco, so not all of the music is thumpin' bass, but the songs chosen are consistent with the movie.

I think I reflashed my machine more than 20 times. Time to go play and see how this is working...

#14 3 years ago

Awesome! The reconfigured songs need to be in the game! The crystal method, boyz noise, glitch mob, oakenfold need to be put in IMO. Seems like you have most of them. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

#15 3 years ago

Video was great and the songs seemed to be pretty seamless. I wonder if there is a better more intense song for LC multiball or SOS? Other than that, great job!

#16 3 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Video was great and the songs seemed to be pretty seamless. I wonder if there is a better more intense song for LC multiball or SOS? Other than that, great job!

I struggled with that as well.

For Sea of Simulation, this tranquil song is the only one that is remotely related - it is a tranquil scene in the movie as well. Certainly another song could be used, but then it begins to be unfaithful to the source material. Do you think it would make a difference if I added a simple bass drum thump to it?

For Light Cycle, I used the same song as the movie ("The Rules Have Changed"), which was an incredibly low key song in contrast with the on-screen action. The "Reconfigured" album has a remix of "Arena", but the portion of the song that has the main theme overlayed with a rising/falling siren that is very difficult to loop (jump to 2:42):

I am open to suggestions.

#17 3 years ago

How much of a section timing wise do we have for LC MB, SOS, and disc MB? I assume there is like a minute or so then the track will just loop if you have a long enough MB

I think the grid sounds awesome for game over music but I wondered how they would do for Disc MB too.

#18 3 years ago

Light cycle is 38.942 seconds
Sea of Simulation is 23.140 seconds
Disc Wars is 26.976 seconds

There's not much time. What's frustrating is that these are so short, yet the game over music is allotted 55.209 seconds, but only about 10 seconds is played before it fades out. Huh?

And yes, it must be exactly that length. Any longer and there will be an abrupt transition when it loops back. Any shorter and there will be silence. (This is the part that takes 99% of the effort.)

#19 3 years ago

Cool. Thanks for the info. Gonna play around with those songs.

#20 3 years ago

What about Portal? I think the Grid crystal method song is the best on that reconfigured album so it would be cool to have it rocking at an epic part in the game.

#21 3 years ago

follow

#22 3 years ago

Me too.

#23 3 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

What about Portal? I think the Grid crystal method song is the best on that reconfigured album so it would be cool to have it rocking at an epic part in the game.

Do you know which one is Portal? I must admit that I am avoiding it because I don't want to spoil it for myself. I'm guessing it is 452 or 453 because I haven't heard those two songs in my other glass-off testing. Maybe even 44C (game over music)?

Dang, it's tough working around those voice-overs in Grid Crystal Method.

#24 3 years ago

Yeah I don't know which one is portal. Just curious.

#25 3 years ago

I added some potentially punchier songs in the first post as alternate songs.

#26 3 years ago

Let me know when this is done please? I'm a huge fan of Daft Punk and would love to try this on my LE.

#27 3 years ago

Hiccup: 44F Rinzler seems to have some software trick that prevents it from looping smoothly. It seems to skip over a quarter second of the music. This is going to take a while to reverse-engineer.

EDIT: fixed. 44F restarts the sound loop at approximately 0.3 seconds.

#28 3 years ago

I need a volunteer who can be a beta tester and knows how to use Pinball Browser.

#29 3 years ago

This would be an amazing upgrade to an already amazing game! +1 for LE!

#30 3 years ago
Quoted from nosro:

I need a volunteer who can be a beta tester and knows how to use Pinball Browser.

I have no experience with pinball browser unfortunately

But I can help out in about a week when I have some free time

#31 3 years ago

This is what I've been looking for! Looking forward to future updates on this one

#32 3 years ago

Very interested in this, I've only just got my tron but have tried the mix most people seem to be using. Trouble is I find the first track that plays very repetetive, way too short a loop with a horrible transition between loops. If you are looking for any testers I would love to give it a try.

#33 3 years ago
Quoted from Kevlar:

transition between loops

99% of the work is this. I'm somewhere around 30 revisions and machine reflashes.

#34 3 years ago
Quoted from nosro:

99% of the work is this. I'm somewhere around 30 revisions and machine reflashes.

I rooting for you! thank you for your hard work, it will be worth it!

I have some time tomorrow evening to help, if you still need anything

2 weeks later
#35 3 years ago

VERSION 36

I have settled on the following tracks for this mix:

- 448 Quorra: keep current OST / Derezzed
- 44A Quorra ???: keep current OST / Derezzed
- 44B Sea of Simulation: OST / Sea of Simulation (Amazon Exclusive)
- 44C Match: Reconfigured / The Son of Flynn (Moby Remix)
- 44D waiting for Disc War restart, starts at 15.069 of 44C: Reconfigured / The Son of Flynn (Moby Remix)
- 44E Disc War: Reconfigured / Arena (Japanese Popstars Remix)
- 44F Waiting for Rinzler, loops back at 0.3 seconds: Reconfigured / Rinzler (Kaskade Remix)
- 450 ZUSE: OST / Castor
- 451 GEM: Reconfigured / End of Line (Boyz Noize Remix)
- 452 ???: Reconfigured / Solar Sailer (Pretty Lights Remix)
- 453 ???: Reconfigured / Solar Sailer (Pretty Lights Remix)
- 454 Light Cycle: TRON Legacy Mindless Faith Mix
- 456 Quorra: keep current OST / Derezzed
- 457 CLU2 ???: Reconfigured / CLU (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
- 458 CLU: Reconfigured / CLU (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
- 459 Game Over music, Portal: Reconfigured / The Grid (Crystal Method Remix)
- 45A Game play default short: keep current OST / End title song
- 45B Game play default: keep current OST / End title song

The songs were chosen to target the following goals:
1) Even thought David Thiel's music is excellent in every way, this mix consists solely of Daft Punk tracks although most of them have been remixed by other artists.
2) The songs chosen are faithful to the movie. For example, the Light Cycle Multiball mode uses a remix of the song used in the movie's light cycle scene and the song for Portal mode is consistent with the movie's scene where Sam and Quorra exit through the portal.

The video has the subwoofer unplugged due to the way the low frequencies were affecting the auto-level adjustment, but the audio was selected and mixed based on evaluations on the machine with a subwoofer. As usual, I have no dedicated video equipment or any relevant videography skills:

A special big thanks to oga83 for tracking down the cause of sound distortion on certain songs. Pinball Browser has never been better!

#36 3 years ago
Quoted from nosro:

I have settled on the following tracks for this mix:
- 448 Quorra: keep current OST / Derezzed
- 44A Quorra ???: keep current OST / Derezzed
- 44B Sea of Simulation: OST / Sea of Simulation (Amazon Exclusive)
- 44C Match: Reconfigured / The Son of Flynn (Moby Remix)
- 44D waiting for Disc War restart, starts at 15.069 of 44C: Reconfigured / The Son of Flynn (Moby Remix)
- 44E Disc War: Reconfigured / Arena (Japanese Popstars Remix)
- 44F Waiting for Rinzler, loops back at 0.3 seconds: Reconfigured / Rinzler (Kaskade Remix)
- 450 ZUSE: OST / Castor
- 451 GEM: Reconfigured / End of Line (Boyz Noize Remix)
- 452 ???: Reconfigured / Solar Sailer (Pretty Lights Remix)
- 453 ???: Reconfigured / Solar Sailer (Pretty Lights Remix)
- 454 Light Cycle: OST / TRON Legacy Mindless Faith Mix
- 456 Quorra: keep current OST / Derezzed
- 457 CLU2 ???: Reconfigured / CLU (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
- 458 CLU: Reconfigured / CLU (Paul Oakenfold Remix)
- 459 Game Over music, Portal: Reconfigured / The Grid (Crystal Method Remix)
- 45A Game play default short: keep current OST / End title song
- 45B Game play default: keep current OST / End title song
The songs were chosen to target the following goals:
1) Even thought David Thiel's music is excellent in every way, this mix consists solely of Daft Punk tracks although most of them have been remixed by other artists.
2) The songs chosen are faithful to the movie. For example, the Light Cycle Multiball mode uses a remix of the song used in the movie's light cycle scene and the song for Portal mode is consistent with the movie's scene where Sam and Quorra exit through the portal.
The video has the subwoofer unplugged due to the way the low frequencies were affecting the auto-level adjustment, but the audio was selected and mixed based on evaluations on the machine with a subwoofer. As usual, I have no dedicated video equipment or any relevant videography skills (YouTube may still be processing at the time of this post):
» YouTube video

Private video

#37 3 years ago

Can you pm me the link to download this please for my Tron LE?

#38 3 years ago

Still processing. Give it a few minutes.

#39 3 years ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

What about Portal? I think the Grid crystal method song is the best on that reconfigured album so it would be cool to have it rocking at an epic part in the game.

The end of game song turns out to also be the Portal song, so that is what this remix does.

#40 3 years ago

Sweet! You did a great job. Now I just need to get the money for a Tron! Haha

#41 3 years ago

Nice work! I like the choices you made. Just curious, since I have an LE, what would happen if I upload this code? Would daft punk MB just remain the same?

I'd be happy to test it out if you can PM a link to the download.

#42 3 years ago
Quoted from Rockytop:

Nice work! I like the choices you made. Just curious, since I have an LE, what would happen if I upload this code? Would daft punk MB just remain the same?
I'd be happy to test it out if you can PM a link to the download.

The code is built by taking the base code and substituting music. For an LE, one would have to start with the LE code and substitute the music. The music seems to exist in both Pro and LE codes, but the Pro may not trigger all of them. I still haven't been able to trigger sounds 452, 453, and 457. If you have an LE, play those sounds through Pinball Browser and post here if any of them sound like the music you get in Daft Punk mode.

#43 3 years ago

Ill do daft punk multiball very soon and report back on the LE

Ive been playing a lot lately, and I love the music, much more so than when I first loaded it, I look forward to the music now, rather than just play through the modes

#44 3 years ago
Quoted from nosro:

The code is built by taking the base code and substituting music. For an LE, one would have to start with the LE code and substitute the music. The music seems to exist in both Pro and LE codes, but the Pro may not trigger all of them. I still haven't been able to trigger sounds 452, 453, and 457. If you have an LE, play those sounds through Pinball Browser and post here if any of them sound like the music you get in Daft Punk mode.

Gotcha...I've never been able to use the pinball browser. I don't own a PC, (only MACs) I think I can get the software to run a windows OS, but I've never really looked into that too much.

#45 3 years ago

I'd love to give this a shot. I really like the
motivation behind this remix!

If I can test it out, please let me know!

#46 3 years ago
Quoted from Rockytop:

Gotcha...I've never been able to use the pinball browser. I don't own a PC, (only MACs) I think I can get the software to run a windows OS, but I've never really looked into that too much.

I have run it on Parallels. It's been awhile since I opened the app, but as I recall it worked fine in an emulated Windows environment.

#47 3 years ago

I'd be interested in trying out the ROM if you have any inclination to share

#48 3 years ago

I would be interested in trying it too. We have a Tron Pro.

#49 3 years ago

Cool remix, I´ll be interest in a version for a Tron LE.

#50 3 years ago

count me in

Promoted items from the Pinside Marketplace
9,500 (OBO)
Machine - For Sale
Boynton Beach, FL
$ 26.50
From: $ 40.00
Lighting - Interactive
Professor Pinball
From: $ 40.00
Lighting - Interactive
Professor Pinball
$ 279.95
Lighting - Led
Pin Stadium Pinball LEDs
There are 160 posts in this topic. You are on page 1 of 4.

Hey there! Got a moment?

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run thanks to donations from our visitors? Please donate to Pinside, support the site and get anext to your username to show for it! Donate to Pinside