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Tron LE**Who sets the Value? **

By stretch2

9 years ago


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#25 9 years ago
Quoted from usandthem:

In essence, you're correct. The price cheerleaders and the price knockers are part of that "market" though, no?

No, they are observers. A market is strictly and only made up of a series of transactions. When the value of something is "marked to market", it's book or assumed value is recorded as the same value as the last recorded transaction that took place. It is NEVER set to the "cheerleader" price or to the "knocker" price. The difference between your traded price and the current mark to market is your current profit or loss. Doesn't mean you now have to trade at that price and it certainly doesn't mean that the next trade can't be different. What it does mean however is that you DO have a mark to market profit or loss, whether you like it or not. All these people that say if you don't sell you don't lose money are dreaming. You have a mark to market loss..you just haven't crystallised it.

#26 9 years ago

and the LE has no hole either.

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Unless you mean those tiny pinholes, but they're on pretty much everything.

#37 9 years ago

And the term "seller" is a bit misleading anyway. Both parties are sellers..one is selling a machine, the other is selling cash. The guy with the machine is using his machine as currency to buy dollars. All purchases are really just asset swaps. Finance is fun isn't it? Isn't it??

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#64 9 years ago
Quoted from gamestencils:

So, if a buyer says I'll pay 10.00 and the seller says best I can do is 11, how does the buyer set the price? The seller is who ultimately decides at what price they are willing to sell whatever it is they own otherwise, it's not sold. The buyer can say whatever price they want, but until the seller agrees it's not a deal and the seller happens to be the one with the item. Setting a price is of course different than negotiating one, but the price set is the one that is negotiated and agreed to as being acceptable by the seller otherwise again, no sale. So, logic would indicate that the seller sets the price What the buyer is willing to pay means nothing if as a seller it's not a big enough number. There's no store on earth that you can walk in, state what you want to pay and that's that deal's done.

And if there is "no sale" then it never becomes part of the market. So all is moot. There has been no price set at all.

#70 9 years ago
Quoted from MK6PIN:

Umm....maybe a bit of a stretch there......think the op asked " who sets the " value" of a Tronle?"
Another old saying comes to mind - "value ( insert beauty if you like) is in the eye of the beholder."
Some value the item more than the cash they are willing to part with to get it and the reverse applies
However...if I'm trying to "sell" my cash for an item, I'm actually a buyer....cash = definitive, item...not so much....

Transactions are simply like voltage polarity. +/- and you have to have both. The two parties are swapping what they have. They are a seller of what they have, they are a buyer of what they are swapping into. Cash, pinball machines, goats, doesn't matter.. if it's going you're selling it, if it's coming in you're buying it. And the "value" is set when they match.

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