PP FF same design so take yuor pic. Sterns speaker quality varies. They order a 1000 of this and a 1000 of that. Its usually not the same. Normally I would say screw the backbox upgrade and just get the sub. Tron is very music orientated. Get the whole kit.

I put the full kit in my LE, clarity of the speech and the backbox speakers in general is very good.

someone knows if the 3rd run have the led on playfield or it's just the normal bulb ??
do you recommand to order the cointaker full led kit ??

I believe since AC/DC stern has switched to the new speaker set up with the capacitor attached basically making most of the sound come from the cabinet speaker. My last TF LE was like that too. Along with X-men, Avengers. I personally do not like it. You can take the cap off or swap the whole set out to get regular sound from the back box. I prefer that.

Sorry to Hijack a bit - but I do it anyway. I purchased a Pinball Pro and went to install it (X-men) and it simply did not plug and play like every other game I had. I looked at your thread, and made my wiring just like Tron. Still using the capacitor and stock back box speakers, I was having a little fun with the sound and turned it all the way up, to adjust the levels to my preference. Next thing, I know I have smoke coming from the left side of the speakers, not sure if the capacitor fried or part of the volume nob. Turned it off, and reduced sound. Nothing seems wrong but worried about what the cause was. Also when removing the cap do you have to rewire the speakers, or simply cut off the cap? Thanks

Uh Oh you let the smoke out.. thats never good

I added the smoke recapture kit from Pinball life and my games plays much better now.

Pinball Pro are superior in my eyes as I have had both, both are good tho. I know PP had the speakers made specifically to work in pinball machines, my two games that were upgraded with PP sound pretty damn awesome..

I might have talked the wife into letting me buy a Tron finally. We're going to go play one this weekend to get the final say (she's into this hobby too) but loves our RCT (and I know how you all feel about that pin) wondering where you guys ordered from and price...if you don't mind sending me a PM etc.

Mine as well get the field work rollin' in case she loves it... got to work out a few kinks on funding as well.

I have a full Flipper Fidelity kit in my Tron LE. Love it! It thumps so hard that I actually had to run tape along the sides of my PF Glass because it was rattling so bad

Yeah, def needs anti-rattle tape. The Flynn lane makes the bassiest bass in all of pinball!!!

Too much bass is not enough bass

you better hurry the hell up if they arnt all gone they will be in 5 min
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It's simple to bypass the cap. Simply desolder wires from one side and resolder them to the other side.

Thanks - did this and was able to finally control the sound levels. Looks like the cap on x-men could not take the max and was responsible for the smoke, as it no longer is reading good.

Got the FF full kit on my Tron pro. Gave the machine an instant heartbeat. Long singular bass lines like the start of LCMB and the new disc battle restart are very cool with new speakers.

I did notice however that because of the crappy audio sampling rate that comes from the machine, the FF kit will enhance some of the crackly background noise if you turn it right up.The volume control helps you to drown this out somewhat, but dont be expecting amazing audio quality from just a change of speakers.

I really like the FF kit, and after some tweaking will certainly put a smile on your face.

Agreed. I have the FF kit in my pro and it freakin rocks!! Big difference in my opinion, I could not imagine the game w/out it now. I took my tron to a new year pinball party and I had to turn the sound way down as you could not even hear the other pins.

The shaker and the FF kit (or PP kit, I have heard great things about these also) upgrade are a must for tron.

I concur. I tried a pinball pro kit once and hated it; sounded worst then my factory system. Granted that was awhile ago, but man FLIPPER FIDELITY sounds killer and everyone that comes over notices and are always leaving wanting kits for their games

I just added my FF speakers to my Tron Pro tonight...great move. I was a little bit skeptical of the hype, but the performance is a huge upgrade. 100% satisfied, no regrets.

I concur Flipper Fidelity speakers rock
my wifey is helping me set up my game tonight

I just ordered the FF kit and shaker for my TRON. Can't wait to install them both!

Ha I got a shaker from FF too
sound systems =FF
leds=cointaker

Good Move you will love the shaker in this game.

I just ordered the upgraded speakers with blue led lights pre-installed to make the speaker grills light up blue and a shaker motor. Tron is gonna rock !!

my NIB should arrive tomorrow sometime. got full set of cliffys on the way as well as the pinbits dress kit for plastics + bumpers. will probably do the sound system next once things settle down a bit!

aargh. I take day off work to get delivery.

dispatcher: "will be around lunchtime".
me: sweeet.
trucker at 12pm: "I'll be there at 7pm"
me: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

someone needs to hurry up and develop transporter technology dammit

Your patients will be rewarded shortly.....congrats on the NIB....enjoy!

dunno.. I cant do much but look until the cliffy's arrive and the pinbits! wife will have a coniption fit if I say I damaged something on the kids inheritance!! lol