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Tri Zone - Missing roms?

By Phantasize

2 years ago



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    #1 2 years ago

    Hi everyone. I recently got an old Williams Tri-Zone from 1979. It's a System 6 machine.

    I have not yet got it running as it had severe batteri acid damage on the driver board.

    But my question is regarding the required Roms on the CPU board. I actually don't have a chip in the IC14 spot, which as i understand it is the game rom. But the seller told me it was working fine some years ago, and can't tell me anything about why a rom should be missing.

    So i was hoping someone could tell me if it looks like i either have all of the required IC's, or if i am indeed missing one or more?

    I have attached a picture of the lower left corner of the CPU board.

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    #2 2 years ago

    You're missing other things... I would post a pic of the entire MPU. Multiple 40 pin ICs MPU/PIAs are missing in that pic. I'm assuming you didn't pull them or the missing interconnect pins?

    See page 5 here for Tri-Zone IC details:

    https://www.ipdb.org/files/2641/Basic_instruction_manual_Tri_Zone.pdf

    You may be ok with 4,5 6,7 (according to THAT manual page at least).

    #3 2 years ago

    Boards of that era sometimes had a single combo ROM at IC14, and sometimes multiple game ROM chips at the other locations of U26, U22, U21. It's not uncommon to see multiple variations for a single title. All depends on what was available at the time. U21,U22,U26 are earlier style masked ROM chips which were being phased out at the time, the combo EPROM at U14 is the preferred option.

    -Hans

    #4 2 years ago
    Quoted from snyper2099:

    You're missing other things... I would post a pic of the entire MPU. Multiple 40 pin ICs MPU/PIAs are missing in that pic. I'm assuming you didn't pull them or the missing interconnect pins?
    See page 5 here for Tri-Zone IC details:
    https://www.ipdb.org/files/2641/Basic_instruction_manual_Tri_Zone.pdf
    You may be ok with 4,5 6,7 (according to THAT manual page at least).

    Thank you for your feedback. Yes, i did indeed pull the missing PIAs and connectors. As I mentioned the board had severe acid damage.

    I will have a look at the link. Thank you.

    #5 2 years ago
    Quoted from HHaase:

    Boards of that era sometimes had a single combo ROM at IC14, and sometimes multiple game ROM chips at the other locations of U26, U22, U21. It's not uncommon to see multiple variations for a single title. All depends on what was available at the time. U21,U22,U26 are earlier style masked ROM chips which were being phased out at the time, the combo EPROM at U14 is the preferred option.
    -Hans

    So as i understand it, the game could very well have run with the pictured chip combination, but i should burn a new game rom for The IC14 slot?

    #6 2 years ago
    Quoted from Phantasize:

    So as i understand it, the game could very well have run with the pictured chip combination, but i should burn a new game rom for The IC14 slot?

    This is the correct set up for Tri Zone mpu with Bipolar Roms the pads should be filled at IC 26 and IC 14 (install a socket at 14) to allow a secure thru hole connection

    Rom at IC 14 Use:

    Remove J4 and connect J3

    Remove Prom's at IC 22 and IC 21

    Fill in solder pads at IC 26

    Install socket at IC 14

    Suggest replacing socket 17 and 20

    Flipper rom set: if they cannot be tested replace roms 17 and 20 along with IC 14

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