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Toy Story Pinball - You in or out?

By Vino

1 year ago


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“Toy Story Pinball - In or Out”

  • In 231 votes
    18%
  • Out 970 votes
    77%
  • May-be (please explain) 57 votes
    5%

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#1245 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

And they have 3 killer themes coming out.

I wouldn't call any of those Themes killer.

BTTF? Jaws the Pinball? Modern Bond?

No thanks.

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#1247 1 year ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

BTTF is for sure, massive.

Maybe in 1985-1987. But it is in no way massive today.

They really need to get their heads on straight and start looking forward.

#1255 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

I see that from your collection and history

Fail to see what my collection has to do with it. Unless that's just your way of swinging a dick?
In which case, I am comletely impressed with your ability to purchase every machine that Stern, JJP and others shit out. I spend my monies elsewhere.

I don't see the appeal of Toy Story and I certainly don't see the appeal of another BTTF pin. There's a ton of stuff out there that has way more upside than wasting money on nostalgia Licenses.

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#1261 1 year ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

What ton of stuff do you think would do better?

I think they should stop chasing high dollar licenses and start picking up licenses that would allow more money to go into the pin itself.

There's an almost completely unmined market in Sci Fi Fantasy. Warhammer 40k would sell itself and that is one example of dozens.

Pick a Game company and team up on a release. Imagine a Pin released concurrent with something like Elden Ring...would be huge and bring in a lot of interest from people outside the pin market.

These are obvious and easy examples of Themes where an entire world is pre-created and its adaptation to pinball would be simple and maybe even boost exposure for the Licensee.
Something like Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn or Brian Mclellan's Powder Mage Trilogy are tailor made for the physics of pinball. And Licenses wouldn't kill your BOM.

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#1278 1 year ago
Quoted from Haymaker:

Theres not a theme that is more wanted in the community than back to the future.

I see about 8-10 people on this site repeating this relentlessly but I have yet to meet a pinhead who has once mentioned BTTF as a Theme they want to see. Not one.

#1287 1 year ago
Quoted from Haymaker:Bro I don't know where you're hanging out but its not reality.

You are certainly one of the chorus.

#1332 1 year ago
Quoted from Mattyk:

I’m not an operator and don’t know how many games are played in a weeks time on a popular machine. Full disclosure. But say the machine generates 30 played per week, that’s 120 plays per month or 1,440 plays per year. At $1 per game that’s obviously $1,440 in annual earnings.

You forgot to account for the cut that goes to the venue (30-50%) and the cost of operating/repairs.

In your example that would net an operator $700-1000 (on the high side).

#1336 1 year ago
Quoted from Mattyk:

Yea I forgot about that. So the return is almost cut in half. And further decreased by repairs and whatnot.

Licensing and Taxes, too...

Tough road to be an operator.

#1391 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

A “recession” is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of declining GDP growth.

It lasted 33 days in 2020.

Gotta love it when Lawyers do Economics.

#1396 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

I actually do financial planning and “economics” for a living.

If you do the math on 2 Quarters of Negative Growth and come out with the answer : The Recession only lasted- 33 Days!...

not for me you don't.

#1507 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

And why you don’t see anyone say we are currently in a “recession”. We might have just seen peak inflation and commodity prices are rolling over. It might “feel like it” to some. Others it’s a boom time!

Well. That didn't last long.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/key-fed-gdp-tracker-turns-negative-signaling-recession-here

#1510 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:

The media is going to hate to have to report that data so maybe it will miraculously turn into a +1%.

They dislike it so much they are already out in front, softening the impact.

Again. Recession is a backwards indicating measure. When you reach the metric that indicates an undeniable trigger, you have already been in recession for 6 months.

You aren't informing anyone of anything but your positive outlook for a future that is not in the numbers.

#1557 1 year ago
Quoted from iceman44:That’s how it works, just finished the 2nd quarter. I don’t think it really matters that much if it’s -1% or +1%. Doesn’t really feel any different does it.

And Revised down to 2.1%.

You are like a prophet. Of sorts.

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