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Quoted from Jaytech10:What do you mean by toy-less?
Obviously it has toys but for $12K-15K people were expecting more or something unique.
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Guns N' Roses (LE)
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Jersey Jack, 2020
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Toy Story 4 (CE)
Jersey Jack, 2022
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Toy Story 4 (LE)
Jersey Jack, 2022
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Quoted from jake35:TS has lots of great shots and flow, that's what surprised me about the value dropping.
Make the theme surrounding the original movie, replace the playfield LCD with a toy/mech and keep the price at what GnR sold for. It's not rocket science on why the game value has plummeted, they tried to gouge owners on a giving less pinball for more money with the weakest film of the series.
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Quoted from daudioguy:So, the JJP programmer has gotten what he wanted and I hope that it is working out for him.
He must love clarinet and slot machine sounds over pinball sound royalty.
giphy (14).gifQuoted from ZooDude:they had TS4 for .25¢ a play
Ouch!!! Sounds like an operator nightmare trying to recoup 12K for a NIB. Just don't get why JJP stopped offering the SE, something to compete with Stern pro/premiums and more operator friendly.
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Quoted from arcyallen:I never understand when people are upset by what's a game -isn't-.
Cause the majority of people buying these games have nostalgia for the other three movies more, combine that with a huge price jump just for the fourth movie theme and here we are. Why Disney doesn't understand that all the movies need to be in the theme is just another bad decision that shows why their company is losing money as of late.
Quoted from fnosm:I love Pat's games, old and new.
TZ has a gumball machine, THE POWER magnetic flippers, a ball drop and a subway.
Wonka has the Glass Elevator, subway, most secret machine
The Addams Family, has the rotating bookshelf and a subway.
TS4 has the popup Gabby, Benson posts, Duke Ramp
In terms of interactive mechs these machines seem similar to me.
Or is the comparison the absolute number of flippers, solenoids, VUK's, spinners, magnets, drop targets, Lawlor scoops, diverters etc...?
Addams had The Thing mech and you're forgetting No Good Gophers and all its mechs. He's pretty revolutionary coming up with Banzai Run backbox playfield, Rudy, The Power playfield and more. I don't know what you expect honestly.
Quoted from TechnicalSteam:Recently tried to sell / trade a pin. OMG everyone with a Toy Story came out of woodworks. Many had very fair offers. Let's just say one of the offers was tempting a CE at 7500. I Sh!t you not and I passed with no regrets.
Honestly you could have made a couple grand on that deal, this game gets it's fair share of knocks but it's not Thunderbirds.
3 months later
Quoted from ASAC_Schrader:Stern has some secret sauce going on.
Best flippers, best coders/rule makers, best pricing options excluding the LE, best sound design and insider connected. People will happily change out there coil stops and plastic shrinky dinks for those reasons.
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