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TOTEM won't start a game

By JethroP

3 years ago

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Totem Gottlieb, 1979

#1 3 years ago

???

Powers on but doesn't start a game. Everything looks good except for a disconnected knocker coil and corresponding bad knocker driver transistor on the driver board. Not worried about the knocker not working. Just trying to get the game to boot. Has a Ni-Wumpf MPU board.

Here's what I have:
Power on get one LED flicker on MPU (Ni-Wumpf)
Pause then several seconds of sound/tune
Kick out hole fires once
Shows “GAME OVER”
All displays working alternating zeros then high score
Display shows 4 credits
Start Button does nothing.
Any specific testing guidance appreciated.

#2 3 years ago

ROB

transprtr4u

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Start button switch issue?

#3 3 years ago

AXE

YeOldPinPlayer

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Can you add credits? Are there ball(s) in the trough?

#4 3 years ago

???

JethroP

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Quoted from transprtr4u:
Start button switch issue?

I don't see anything unusual at the start button.

Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:
Can you add credits? Are there ball(s) in the trough?

I cannot add credits. There is one ball in the trough.

#5 3 years ago

ROB

transprtr4u

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You should have all balls in the game.
Go to switch test ... T1 and push the start button and see if it works.

#6 3 years ago

COW

smiley

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Quoted from transprtr4u:
You should have all balls in the game.
Go to switch test ... T1 and push the start button and see if it works.

I think he has a Totem, not TOTAN

#7 3 years ago

???

JethroP

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6y 101K 3,128 9 14 1

I have one ball in the trough. How many should I have? The test switch doesn’t do anything. Is there some testing I can do on the no-wumpf to see if it’s working?

#8 3 years ago

DJR

Gorgar666

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I’ll take it.

#9 3 years ago

ROB

transprtr4u

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Quoted from smiley:
I think he has a Totem, not TOTAN

Oooooooops

#10 3 years ago

LUC

luch

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OP
Quoted from JethroP:
I have one ball in the trough. How many should I have? The test switch doesn’t do anything. Is there some testing I can do on the no-wumpf to see if it’s working?

one ball in the game

#11 3 years ago

???

JethroP

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I reseated all the connections. All the connectors look fairly new. The traces on the boards are excellent. When I rebooted the high score now shows "0" and the credits now shows 35. The ball in play display has changed several times each time I reboot. But pressing the start button does nothing.

#12 3 years ago

???

JethroP

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Can anyone recommend a tech that works on the ni-wumpf?

#13 3 years ago

LUC

luch

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check connector A1-j6 ,

#14 3 years ago

???

JethroP

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Quoted from luch:
check connector A1-j6 ,

A1-J6 is good. Also rang out the wires from the credit button to A1-J6. I think something is fried on the MPU board from the voltage feedback to the MPU during the locked on solenoid event.

#15 3 years ago

CHD

Cheddar

GoldenStatePin

Lodi, CA

11y 117K 5,180 17 10

Do you have access to another system 1? A locked on coil rarely affects the mpu. It usually just blows out the transistor on the driver board.

In this case a switch tester would be handy. I am not sure if you can test the switch matrix on a system 1 with a jumper wire like a Williams.

How is the diode on the credit button line?

#16 3 years ago

GIR

girloveswaffles

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Quoted from JethroP:
Can anyone recommend a tech that works on the ni-wumpf?

Check and make sure if one if the coin switches might be stuck closed.

#17 3 years ago

FPG

luvthatapex2

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North Wales, PA

11y 129K 5,768 7 100

The NiWumpf has a setup from the coin door. Check the troubleshooting/setup in this guide.

http://www.ni-wumpf.com/Gottlieb/System%201/NiSystem1Manual.pdf

#18 3 years ago

BEN

edward472

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5y 69,300 1,529

Sounds like a goner. I'll take it off your hands and dispose of it properly.

#19 3 years ago

FPG

luvthatapex2

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North Wales, PA

11y 129K 5,768 7 100

You can contact support by email and maybe they will give you some advise.
[email protected]

#20 3 years ago

???

JethroP

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Quoted from Cheddar:
Do you have access to another system 1? A locked on coil rarely affects the mpu. It usually just blows out the transistor on the driver board.

No, I don't have another System 1 board. According to the Ni-Wumpf website, a locked on solenoid can/likely will damage MPU board.

Quoted from Cheddar:
How is the diode on the credit button line?

Checks the same as the other diodes (these are the ones located on the cabinet base, correct? I don't see any other diodes on this line).

Quoted from girloveswaffles:
Check and make sure if one if the coin switches might be stuck closed.

They are both open.

Quoted from luvthatapex2:
The NiWumpf has a setup from the coin door. Check the troubleshooting/setup in this guide.

I cannot get into the setup program. I think the system needs to boot complete first. Also, you provided the system guide for the MkII. I have the original Ni-Wumpf board.

Quoted from edward472:
Sounds like a goner. I'll take it off your hands and dispose of it properly.

Thanks. I'll set it out by the curb tonight. Come get it

Quoted from luvthatapex2:
You can contact support by email and maybe they will give you some advise.

I sent the email this morning to them hoping for support. Meanwhile, keep the suggestions/troubleshooting tips coming.

#21 3 years ago

RIF

BorgDog

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Spokane, WA

8y 88,800 1,741 25 9

check your slam tilt switches as well, especially the one on the coin door. it is normally closed, make sure it has good contact, one my home use I actually just solder the two wires together. if it is in slam tilt it can't start a game, although I don't know if ni-wumpf has a setting to ignore the slam tilt switches.

#22 3 years ago

???

JethroP

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Quoted from BorgDog:
check your slam tilt switches as well, especially the one on the coin door.

They are both closed.

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