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TOTAN 2.0 soft. rewrite and add-on P-ROC: Twilight Melody


By noitbe1

1 year ago



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#301 24 days ago

Regarding WM2 part 2: this mode will include the kingpin feature. I need to make the final testing to make sure everything’s ok.
If the fireball hit the players, then its power decrease (flippers pulse power).
How to know: special lightning effect for the fireball will go through all the playfield. Obviously, with no power left after too many fireballs hit, that’s the end of the ball.
More to come.

#302 23 days ago

So I was referring to your extended code portion. Are you still going to utilize the sound effect that occurs when you hit the lamp, certain targets, lock a ball, when playing the other new modes? Currently it sounds like the new modes just have music in the background and no other sounds. That’s what I was referring too waiter way this is still awesome! Hopefully that makes sense now.

Quoted from noitbe1:

Thanks for your message. For the music and sounds, everything is there: check post #5.
The original code has been 100% rewritten and is 100% the same as original. (That’s when I started this thread) I’ve edited the 1st post removed the history and intent on this.
This code is the base code AND the extension but i didn’t shared much on original code since all the owners knows it. I will share video of it once done with the extension so all the videos here are part this new extension.
For this project: difficult to say but basic answer is when it’s ready. Almost all the planned modes are there.

#303 23 days ago
Quoted from Vpv1rgin:

So I was referring to your extended code portion. Are you still going to utilize the sound effect that occurs when you hit the lamp, certain targets, lock a ball, when playing the other new modes? Currently it sounds like the new modes just have music in the background and no other sounds. That’s what I was referring too waiter way this is still awesome! Hopefully that makes sense now.

Yes, i’ll add more sounds. Everything is still in work in progress. Some modes were more « finished » than others. I’ve also made some changes since some videos.

#304 23 days ago

Also... Adding sounds is not too hard so I wanted to focus on gameplay on videos.
I’ve planned to also add new light effects.

#305 23 days ago

You amaze me with your skill sets! Thanks so much for making a great game even better! Can’t wait to try this out myself. Keep up the good work.

Quoted from noitbe1:

Also... Adding sounds is not too hard so I wanted to focus on gameplay on videos.
I’ve planned to also add new light effects.

#306 23 days ago
Quoted from Vpv1rgin:

You amaze me with your skill sets! Thanks so much for making a great game even better! Can’t wait to try this out myself. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for your message. I’ll try to share more things soon and also longplay. Totan is a great pin for sure and a piece of art...

#307 21 days ago

reminds you anything...?
Working on WM2 part 3: the last challenge, time to save the princess... more infos to come

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#308 19 days ago

Wizard mode 3 is almost done. Gameplay and interactions is coded same as a new ending.
Still misses some sounds effects same as other modes.

We can call TOTAN twilight melody a Beta now.
Soon the big testing part will begin, at last!

#309 19 days ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

Wizard mode 3 is almost done. Gameplay and interactions is coded same as a new ending.
Still misses some sounds effects same as other modes.
We can call TOTAN twilight melody a Beta now.
Soon the big testing part will begin, at last!

Congrats. I can’t imagine the time spent. That’s great news.

#310 18 days ago

Attract mode has been updated with a new animation and a new tracking on the «Sultan’s Palace »

#311 18 days ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

Attract mode has been updated with a new animation and a new tracking on the «Sultan’s Palace »

May I suggest changing the fonts ? They appear hard to read . At least to me.

#312 18 days ago

I agree with mollyspub, great work, but the fonts are a little hard to read.

#313 18 days ago
Quoted from mollyspub:

May I suggest changing the fonts ? They appear hard to read . At least to me.

Font is like Arabic writing which is a beautifull and that’s its purpose and it’s part of this extension.
This has been here since my first post a year ago . It s a bit hard to read but readable. I personnaly don’t have issue with that maybe because I’m used to it. This is a personnal add to a B/W game and I’ve used it sereral times in the game. It gives an oriental taste to it.
This is not something I will change at this point (all mods are coded) and would not be an easy change if I wanted to.

#314 18 days ago

To follow a video showing how the flipper killing feature works (same as Capcom Kingpin) with the decrease of power.
It's not a sudden death but more likely a slow one...

In the video, I test the flipper pulse each time the player is hit by the genie (power decrease)
At the end there is almost no more pulse which make the drain really likely like a lifebar.

I've planned to implement this in the WM2 mode to add some challenge for the real finale.

#316 17 days ago

Here is the Wizard Mode 2, with all the steps: 1, 2 and 3: again this is the real final mode of this game.

Some corrections has been made since my last 2 videos and I add the step 3. The video is a bit dark (sorry) but as always it give an idea of atmosphere and gameplay. I still need to adjust the difficulty a bit and fix minor things.

I have to say that autolauncher is great for the 4 balls mutliball .
The Kingpin softly flipper's killing (Kingpin) is implemented and if too many fireballs hit the players... it kills the flipper power.

All the originaly planned modes are now coded. I'll now focus and debugging and making it buggless.
I don't say I'll not add new modes someday, we never know...
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#318 17 days ago

here is another video of gameplay (a bit brighter)

Removed: I’ll redo a new one with code update soon

#319 17 days ago

After thought, I've modified the GI lightning on WM2 because I though it was too dark and add more effects on the GI.
My TOTAN is using mainly regular bulbs which doesn't help either.

For info, I'm using a small (great) board sold by applejuice: "WPC-95 GI Blackout Board"
This board add the possibility to control the backbox GI which is normally impossible to do (even with a P-ROC system)
that's why the backbox GI is turned off during gameplay here.
If one want to make it's own P-ROC project, it's a great (and cheap) tool to add effects on backbox.

here is a link to his site:
https://www.mypinballs.com/electronics/store.jsp

However, it's no use to get this board with a regular TOTAN. There is no GI effect to be turned off during gameplay (or really small one being darker) so the effect on the backbox light woun't be noticable.

#320 15 days ago

Wizard Mode 2 with code update:

#321 15 days ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

Wizard Mode 2 with code update:

Amazing, I need a TOTAN now...

#322 14 days ago

Color? Too much blood sweat pain and time not to color this fantastic work!
Talented man you are!

#323 14 days ago
Quoted from bladerunner:

Color? Too much blood sweat pain and time not to color this fantastic work!
Talented man you are!

Let’s never say never but... choice to be made from either regular LCD or color DMD first I think (both are possible though) and with 800 dmd and around 20000 frames I might need some help... Really tedious boring harrassing work to do with some frames to be done pixel by pixels.
Just remember that the dot aspect was for the DMD and when you switch to LCD you have an emulating screen. CGC it’s even beyond that because even the ROM is emulated. I’m sure I’m part of a minority who things that when you have your old mustang, you like to keep your old engine even with its issues and constraints. Sure that we could go even beyond that and even show HD graphics with no more Dots at all... but it was not CGC choice either.

Everything is possible, the time is limited and this has been already several hundreds hours maybe 4 digits already. I don’t count.
Having a 2.0 was my dream for this great pin. Really, I thought that it deserved it.

I didn’t realize that when I started this but anyone who wants to start his own P-ROC project needs to realize that there are a lot of road blocks on your way and it needs some time on your own to deal with it and need some passion about the project.

I want to take this opportunity to congratulate with a hat down all the homebrew projects. This one is far behind.

Again, this is a personal TOTAN 2.0 and I think any TOTAN lovers would have his own idea on how to create an extension. Before even working on it, I already though of around everything I’ve added. It was not, at first, thought to be shared but more to show what’s possible with the board.
Sharing this will need for me a minimum of quality but I thought afterwards it could be great if it was shared if there was enough interest and I think there is.

I still have some work to do on quality, rules and else and I ll continue sharing on that and also when I ll be ready to share it for any interest persons.

Last thing: P-ROC board is pretty expensive (around 400 dol) and this needs a computer to run too. This will be not a cheap extension. That’s also why I don’t focus on color. I don’t even own a LCD or a color DMD.

...and again we can call TOTAN TM a beta now.

#324 14 days ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

Let’s never say never but... choice to be made from either regular LCD or color DMD first I think (both are possible though) and with 800 dmd and around 20000 frames I might need some help... Really tedious boring harrassing work to do with some frames to be done pixel by pixels.
Just remember that the dot aspect was for the DMD and when you switch to LCD you have an emulating screen. CGC it’s even beyond that because even the ROM is emulated. I’m sure I’m part of a minority who things that when you have your old mustang, you like to keep your old engine even with its issues and constraints. Sure that we could go even beyond that and even show HD graphics with no more Dots at all... but it was not CGC choice either.
Everything is possible, the time is limited and this has been already several hundreds hours maybe 4 digits already. I don’t count.
Having a 2.0 was my dream for this great pin. Really, I thought that it deserved it.
I didn’t realize that when I started this but anyone who wants to start his own P-ROC project needs to realize that there are a lot of road blocks on your way and it needs some time on your own to deal with it and need some passion about the project.
I want to take this opportunity to congratulate with a hat down all the homebrew projects. This one is far behind.
Again, this is a personal TOTAN 2.0 and I think any TOTAN lovers would have his own idea on how to create an extension. Before even working on it, I already though of around everything I’ve added. It was not, at first, thought to be shared but more to show what’s possible with the board.
Sharing this will need for me a minimum of quality but I thought afterwards it could be great if it was shared if there was enough interest and I think there is.
I still have some work to do on quality, rules and else and I ll continue sharing on that and also when I ll be ready to share it for any interest persons.
Last thing: P-ROC board is pretty expensive (around 400 dol) and this needs a computer to run too. This will be not a cheap extension. That’s also why I don’t focus on color. I don’t even own a LCD or a color DMD.
...and again we can call TOTAN TM a beta now.

How do we get to test the beta?

#325 14 days ago
Quoted from pintechev:

How do we get to test the beta?

Before sharing anything, I have my own tests to do. This has ‘only’ one year old and short comparing to other projets. I was happy to share my progress but there are still works to do on code and rules and I want to fix that first. The testing for me would be more on the long run and some stuff I didn’t predict could occur.

#327 11 days ago

You rock!!

#328 11 days ago

&don’t stop yet. You will never start again and I think you really want to polish it even further.
Thanks for your creativity! Looking forward playing it!
Cheers Peter

#329 5 days ago

WIP
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#330 5 days ago

alternate day and night during gameplay:

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#331 5 days ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

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Oh Boy! I thought you weren't going to color this. If you've changed your mind -- MIND BLOWN!

I've been thinking of selling my TOTAN since I don't play it that often, and I'd prefer to cash out before it possibly gets re-made. I love the work you're doing, but I just don't think I could go back to an orange display since all my games have ColorDMD or newer LCD. If you colorize this game, I am 100% keeping it.

#332 5 days ago
Quoted from Cheeks:

Oh Boy! I thought you weren't going to color this. If you've changed your mind -- MIND BLOWN!
I've been thinking of selling my TOTAN since I don't play it that often, and I'd prefer to cash out before it possibly gets re-made. I love the work you're doing, but I just don't think I could go back to an orange display since all my games have ColorDMD or newer LCD. If you colorize this game, I am 100% keeping it.

Thanks and yes you should keep it. Color display is on his way. It’s gonna need some more time. Long work ahead...

#333 5 days ago

Please do show this machine on DPO EXPO 2019 in the netherlands! I will arrange free entrace for you and a friend!

#334 5 days ago

Here’s an idea!? I know you said you have to beat the original game in order to get to the next tales/modes. What if...

Like on stern Star Trek you have Nero 1, Nero 2, Nero 3. You could have each tale be 2 layers deep. Because you can select with the left flipper before hitting genie. So the great camel race would be round 1 and then if you are on top of the great camel race again and hit genie it will start the second mode you created. That way people can still experience all of your new work that you’ve done and give much more depth to the game up front instead of in the backend.

#335 5 days ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

Let’s never say never but... choice to be made from either regular LCD or color DMD first I think (both are possible though) and with 800 dmd and around 20000 frames I might need some help... Really tedious boring harrassing work to do with some frames to be done pixel by pixels.
Just remember that the dot aspect was for the DMD and when you switch to LCD you have an emulating screen. CGC it’s even beyond that because even the ROM is emulated. I’m sure I’m part of a minority who things that when you have your old mustang, you like to keep your old engine even with its issues and constraints. Sure that we could go even beyond that and even show HD graphics with no more Dots at all... but it was not CGC choice either.
Everything is possible, the time is limited and this has been already several hundreds hours maybe 4 digits already. I don’t count.

Awesome work. Totan is a beautiful pin, artwise certainly one of the best. I think many totan enthusiast would be very happy with new code, which would vitalize this piece of art.

I dont know what code-set programming there is for an old pin and the display. I know for pixel-systems and dmx, there are programs that can reconfigure images to suit presentation on dmx-controlled displays.

#336 5 days ago
Quoted from Vpv1rgin:

Here’s an idea!? I know you said you have to beat the original game in order to get to the next tales/modes. What if...
Like on stern Star Trek you have Nero 1, Nero 2, Nero 3. You could have each tale be 2 layers deep. Because you can select with the left flipper before hitting genie. So the great camel race would be round 1 and then if you are on top of the great camel race again and hit genie it will start the second mode you created. That way people can still experience all of your new work that you’ve done and give much more depth to the game up front instead of in the backend.

I love this idea! For someone like my wife (who loves TOTAN and is the real reason I still own the game) she will never get to see any of the new modes because she doesn't come close to beating the current game. I really wish there was some way to introduce the new content without needing to complete all the old content. Maybe there could be a system setting that lets the user toggle whether to keep the modes locked until originals are beaten vs. being able to access them in the early game. This would be a way to keep the original vision for the code, but also make the cool new stuff accessible to everyone if desired.

#337 5 days ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

Awesome work. Totan is a beautiful pin, artwise certainly one of the best. I think many totan enthusiast would be very happy with new code, which would vitalize this piece of art.
I dont know what code-set programming there is for an old pin and the display. I know for pixel-systems and dmx, there are programs that can reconfigure images to suit presentation on dmx-controlled displays.

I’m using pygame. However this is different than ccc or indy (other P-ROC project). I used a specific encryption inside the pic to be able to make it easier the use of the color for a large amount of dmd files. I wanted also more colors to deal with.

#338 5 days ago
Quoted from PeterG:

Please do show this machine on DPO EXPO 2019 in the netherlands! I will arrange free entrace for you and a friend!

It would be great it could be shown at an expo and thanks for the offer, I appreciate it.
My schedule with family, work or else make it hard to travel europe. However maybe someone with a totan could share but I m not ready yet and don’t have a end time, moreover now since I ll need a lot of time to do the colors.

#339 5 days ago
Quoted from Cheeks:

I love this idea! For someone like my wife (who loves TOTAN and is the real reason I still own the game) she will never get to see any of the new modes because she doesn't come close to beating the current game. I really wish there was some way to introduce the new content without needing to complete all the old content. Maybe there could be a system setting that lets the user toggle whether to keep the modes locked until originals are beaten vs. being able to access them in the early game. This would be a way to keep the original vision for the code, but also make the cool new stuff accessible to everyone if desired.

I’ ve thought about that and i’ll create a tip (check post 132 if you don’t know what it is)
You will be able to launch directly quest 2 (forget about saving the princess though).
You’ll need the code too. Again it means typing flippers in specific order in attract mode.

It’s a good idea (like others) and choice has to be made. You could check previous post and sorry to be short but I don’t want to explain myself forever with my own reasons, let’s sum up:
- I wanted it to be a real extension and not a reworked totan since I m attached to the original software.
- All the new modes but the new tales can be launched in the first quest (check post 1) so you’ll feel like to play the extension a lot. I ve added animations as well.
- this is planned to be hard (i mean harder than before).
THIS will need some challenge to see the end.

#340 4 days ago

Thank you for clarifying!! So excited for the beta!

Quoted from noitbe1:

I’ ve thought about that and i’ll create a tip (check post 132 if you don’t know what it is)
You will be able to launch directly quest 2 (forget about saving the princess though).
You’ll need the code too. Again it means typing flippers in specific order in attract mode.
It’s a good idea (like others) and choice has to be made. You could check previous post and sorry to be short but I don’t want to explain myself forever with my own reasons, let’s sum up:
- I wanted it to be a real extension and not a reworked totan since I m attached to the original software.
- All the new modes but the new tales can be launched in the first quest (check post 1) so you’ll feel like to play the extension a lot. I ve added animations as well.
- this is planned to be hard (i mean harder than before).
THIS will need some challenge to see the end.

#341 14 hours ago

Your work is incredible! Will that P-ROC Version work with the brand new 4k TOTAN VPX release, Cactus Canyon Continued did in the past?

Just in case you don't know what i am talking about, i made a little video

#342 13 hours ago
Quoted from calium:

Your work is incredible! Will that P-ROC Version work with the brand new 4k TOTAN VPX release, Cactus Canyon Continued did in the past?
Just in case you don't know what i am talking about, i made a little video

No idea for ccc with VPx. I know that totan TM and ccc work with VP9 with a bridge. The Totan has an issue with 2 magnets handlers. No idea why and I didn’t spent too much time on it. Great tool to test the lightning effects.

I’ve made some tests with VPx but it didn’t make it.
All I can say if it’s work with ccc it could work with totan TM.

#343 11 hours ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

Attract mode has been updated with a new animation and a new tracking on the «Sultan’s Palace »

Is the music a Pinsound Mod?

#344 5 hours ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Is the music a Pinsound Mod?

PS works with the original soft. No connection.

#345 3 hours ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

PS works with the original soft. No connection.

Oh, then what was the track you were playing? It fits the TOTAN theme well

#346 2 hours ago
Quoted from noitbe1:

No idea for ccc with VPx. I know that totan TM and ccc work with VP9 with a bridge. The Totan has an issue with 2 magnets handlers. No idea why and I didn’t spent too much time on it. Great tool to test the lightning effects.
I’ve made some tests with VPx but it didn’t make it.
All I can say if it’s work with ccc it could work with totan TM.

Oh i meant „Like“ CCC, sorry.
The Proc CCC Version runs perfect with vpx. Hopefully Your TOTAN in anytime too. Your work is amazing. Thx a lot!

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