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Quoted from pacman11:
Alright recently picked up a TOTAN and tearing it down for a good deep cleaning. What is this part I am missing? I just removed a post in this position but from looking at others it seems to be a newton ball. Correct?[quoted image]

Yes, it should be a newton ball. PBL has the replacements (chrome) for about $8 each. You should probably check the other newton ball as well as the ball usually strips the threads and is just held in place by the plastic and metal parts around it. That makes the strike way different. I recommend you replace them both, since you have it torn down anyway. (You can find the GOLD versions too, but about three times the price.

#1852 3 years ago

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Quoted from Methos:
Thanks. I'll try and wait on ebay for a bit. Does Pinball Center ship to the US?

They don’t, unless something changed. If you can connect with a Pinsider in Canada, or in Germany, maybe they can help you out. That’s what I’ve done when only Pinball Center had the part I needed.

#1853 3 years ago

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What am I missing here? Just a plastic post?

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#1854 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
What am I missing here? Just a plastic post?
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Yes! Right next to the genies arm in this pic

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#1855 3 years ago

AMM

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This is the plastic it attaches to. On the broken edge of this plastic

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#1856 3 years ago

DAD

pacman11

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Okay I just added a post in..

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#1857 3 years ago

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That should do it.

#1858 3 years ago

DAD

pacman11

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Anyone have this plastic that’s not cracked up..

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#1859 3 years ago

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It’s coming along.

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#1860 3 years ago

MJH

Markharris2000

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ebay.com link: Tales Of The Arabian Nights Pinball Harem Plastic New Free shipping

Quoted from pacman11:
Anyone have an this plastic that’s not cracked up..
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$23

#1861 3 years ago

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ebay.com link: Williams Tales Of The Arabian Nights Pinball Cobra Plastic New

Quoted from Methos:
Missing the plastic that attaches to the top of the skill shot tray (3 switches). Does anyone have a spare I can purchase?
Thanks.

$15.50

#1862 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
ebay.com link » Tales Of The Arabian Nights Pinball Harem Plastic New Free Shipping
$23

Nice! Didn’t realize someone sold one plastic thought I would have to buy a whole set. Thanks!

Just ordered it..

#1863 3 years ago

MJH

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Quoted from pacman11:
Nice! Didn’t realize someone sold one plastic thought I would have to buy a whole set. Thanks!
Just ordered it..

Remember you need a red half dome with two tabs, and the rivets to replace it in the new plastic. That half dome is rivetted to the old harem plastic and not very easy to remove. You install the half dome upside-down using two 1/8" tubular rivets and two matching washers. (You'll need the HT174 type rivet setter to do this). Alternatively, you could try some short 4-40 screws, washers and locknuts but that is not nearly as authentic.

#1864 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
Remember you need a red half dome with two tabs, and the rivets to replace it in the new plastic. That half dome is rivetted to the old harem plastic and not very easy to remove. You install the half dome upside-down using two 1/8" tubular rivets and two matching washers. (You'll need the HT174 type rivet setter to do this). Alternatively, you could try some short 4-40 screws, washers and locknuts but that is not nearly as authentic.

Yeah I’ve used screws in the past to reattach the plastics. Thanks for the heads up on that though.

#1865 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Yeah I’ve used screws in the past to reattach the plastics. Thanks for the heads up on that though.

I drilled through the center of the back of the original rivet just deep enough to pop it loose. Then re-assembled it on the new plastic with a dab of superglue. Works like a charm and is original to the look. Have done this on two TZ in the past as well.

1 week later

#1866 3 years ago

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Aright putting this top ramp back on after waiting a week to get parts. Is the left ramp suppose to be lower then the right loop? See picture I am pointing at it.. Thanks!

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#1867 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Aright putting this top ramp back on after waiting a week to get parts. Is the left ramp suppose to be lower then the right loop? See picture I am pointing at it.. Thanks!
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Roll the ball down it and see if it works

#1868 3 years ago

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I think I’ve got it.. ‍♂️

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#1869 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
I think I’ve got it.. ‍♂️
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You got it!

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#1870 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
I think I’ve got it.. ‍♂️
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It’s coming along quite nicely!

#1871 3 years ago

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Quoted from Green-Machine:
It’s coming along quite nicely!

Thanks man! Just waiting for my Genie to get custom painted now and I am done.

#1872 3 years ago

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Does anyone have a custom Genie that they painted they could share with me to give me some ideas. Thanks!

#1873 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Does anyone have a custom Genie that they painted they could share with me to give me some ideas. Thanks!

Here is mine that I painted

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#1874 3 years ago

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Quoted from Green-Machine:
Here is mine that I painted
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#1875 3 years ago

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Those both look nice! I like the clear coat that's on them, really gives it a shine.

#1876 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Those both look nice! I like the clear coat that's on them, really gives it a shine.

I used automotive adhesion spray, then 3 different auto blue tones, including a metallic, then two coats of clearcoats. I hand painted the black and gold details. Took me 45 minutes in total, but had to let it dry a few times in between steps.

#1877 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
I used automotive adhesion spray, then 3 different auto blue tones, including a metallic, then two coats of clearcoats. I hand painted the black and gold details. Took me 45 minutes in total, but had to let it dry a few times in between steps.

Yeah looks good man. I have someone painting for me and I’ve got some spray Max clearcoat I’ll probably put on it..

#1878 3 years ago

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Okay just got my Genie back that’s been painted and I think it looks great!

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#1879 3 years ago

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Where does this piece go?

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#1880 3 years ago

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Next to the fireball magnet. It helps lift the ball into the hole

#1881 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Where does this piece go?
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It was a factory add-on early in production. Good thing you have it and quite easy to install. I am attaching a picture

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#1882 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
It was a factory add-on early in production. Good thing you have it and quite easy to install. I am attaching a picture
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Is that modern day stern glass on your TOTAN

#1883 3 years ago

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Quoted from Green-Machine:
Is that modern day stern glass on your TOTAN

It is! My machine glass had 30 years of scratches on it. Found someone locally that swapped a few of their new machine's glass to HD glass, so gave me a sheet a few months ago. Makes a BIG difference!!!!!

#1884 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
It is! My machine glass had 30 years of scratches on it. Found someone locally that swapped a few of their new machine's glass to HD glass, so gave me a sheet a few months ago. Makes a BIG difference!!!!!

Yes, I ordered new glass as soon as I bought mine...like yours it needed replaced

#1885 3 years ago

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Thanks guys! Added a spot light to light up my Genie..

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#1886 3 years ago

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#1887 3 years ago

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On the left ramp shot when the ball hits that loop I've had it get stuck just after the switch and before the magnet. Is that a pretty common area for the ball to hang up at? It got stuck because the ball didn't have enough energy to make it up that magnet ramp area and rolled back down to the switch and the switch kept it from leaving the ramp.

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#1888 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
On the left ramp shot when the ball hits that loop I've had it get stuck just after the switch and before the magnet. Is that a pretty common area for the ball to hang up at? It got stuck because the ball didn't have enough energy to make it up that magnet ramp area and rolled back down to the switch and the switch kept it from leaving the ramp.[quoted image]

That's a danger of a gentle ramp shot. It's one of the 8 places where balls regularly get stuck on my machine.

#1889 3 years ago

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Quoted from TopMoose:
That's a danger of a gentle ramp shot. It's one of the 8 places where balls regularly get stuck on my machine.

There's got to a fix to that, maybe I could relocate the switch on top or side like some games.

#1890 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
On the left ramp shot when the ball hits that loop I've had it get stuck just after the switch and before the magnet. Is that a pretty common area for the ball to hang up at? It got stuck because the ball didn't have enough energy to make it up that magnet ramp area and rolled back down to the switch and the switch kept it from leaving the ramp.[quoted image]

I can see what you are saying, but I got to say I have had it for 15 years and NEVER had it get stuck there... Perhaps the ramp spacers are too tall? Were they replaced at some point?

#1891 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
I can see what you are saying, but I got to say I have had it for 15 years and NEVER had it get stuck there... Perhaps the ramp spacers are too tall? Were they replaced at some point?

Ramp spacers? What are you talking about? I played it last night and got it stuck twice within an hour.

#1892 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Ramp spacers? What are you talking about? I played it last night and got it stuck twice within an hour.

I think he’s trying to help you. Ramp spacers are the little plastic sleeves that go over the screws that hold your ramp in place if they’re not correctly put into order or size your ramps downhill grade could change causing your ball to get stuck.

#1893 3 years ago

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Quoted from Green-Machine:
I think he’s trying to help you. Ramp spacers are the little plastic sleeves that go over the screws that hold your ramp in place if they’re not correctly put into order or size your ramps downhill grade could change causing your ball to get stuck. He doesn’t see your game so of course it’s a theory so that’s why He asked I’m assuming

My ball has never gotten stuck there either

#1894 3 years ago

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Quoted from Green-Machine:
I think he’s trying to help you. Ramp spacers are the little plastic sleeves that go over the screws that hold your ramp in place if they’re not correctly put into order or size your ramps downhill grade could change causing your ball to get stuck. He doesn’t see your game so of course it’s a theory so that’s why He asked I’m assuming

Yes, I know he's trying to help.. I just didn't know what a ramp spacer was but I think I know what you are talking about. Thanks!

#1895 3 years ago

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I dream of genie.
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Great idea for a pinsound version....

“Oh Master!”
Theme song
“Do-onig” sound effect
And of course the canned laugh track

#1896 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Ramp spacers? What are you talking about? I played it last night and got it stuck twice within an hour.

Over the years, the spacers may have been changed depending on who worked on it and what they had available. What I am suggesting is the ramps may not be at the right angle causing the ball to get stuck. The slope of the ramp should be downward consistently, but over the years changes may have accidentally been made. Spacers are usually plastic, but there are aluminum and steel ones as well. Refer to page 2-42 for the location of the mounting tabs in the upper left of the play field. I suspect one or more are a bit too tall making the ramp sit too high.

#1897 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
Over the years, the spacers may have been changed depending on who worked on it and what they had available. What I am suggesting is the ramps may not be at the right angle causing the ball to get stuck. The slope of the ramp should be downward consistently, but over the years changes may have accidentally been made. Spacers are usually plastic, but there are aluminum and steel ones as well. Refer to page 2-42 for the location of the mounting tabs in the upper left of the play field. I suspect one or more are a bit too tall making the ramp sit too high.

Okay that makes sense, I’ll check, but the ball got stuck on the switch when it went backwards on the ramp. Maybe something is off, but I don’t believe so. The ramp seems to be at the right angle just seems like a poor design.

#1898 3 years ago

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Quoted from pacman11:
Okay that makes sense, I’ll check, but the ball got stuck on the switch when it went backwards on the ramp. Maybe something is off, but I don’t believe so. The ramp seems to be at the right angle just seems like a poor design.

That switch is very tough to work on and the left ramp may need to be removed to do so. Try this, reach up there and see if the switch lever has any resistance when pressed down. You should almost feel nothing as it depresses. Any resistance could mean the lever blade has been bent, or the switch itself many be damaged and the blade is rubbing against the ramp plastic itself.

#1899 3 years ago

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Quoted from Markharris2000:
That switch is very tough to work on and the left ramp may need to be removed to do so. Try this, reach up there and see if the switch lever has any resistance when pressed down. You should almost feel nothing as it depresses. Any resistance could mean the lever blade has been bent, or the switch itself many be damaged and the blade is rubbing against the ramp plastic itself.

Here’s a thought? If you remove your glass and set the ball on your switch does the switch allow the ball to roll out of the ramp area? I’ll check my switch area too. Thanks for the help!

#1900 3 years ago

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