This is good to know! Thank You! I would buy NIB with no changes to the current machine. I’m not interested in paying the prices on the secondary market right now, and I’d rather see a new sale go to Spooky and Mr. Danesi. If it’s 1.0 or 2.0 for the next run, makes no difference to me. I’m just ready for my very own TNA (so to speak).

Perhaps not by the numbers (yet), but I feel confident saying that TNA is the most successful original-themed pinball machine in the ‘modern era’. It is a perfect blend of futuristic nostalgia.

I’ll take a rerun of the original and I’ll pay $7-$8K if they announced it tomorrow.
I am not going to pay 8K for a used one, which seems to be where the market is now.

I would think that any announcement on 2.0 would coincide with the end of the Halloween/Ultraman run…that is, if they plan to do 2.0 as the next title. Here’s hoping!!!

Bought a Fang Club membership a couple weeks ago after seeing the activity in this thread, in hopes that I can snag one of the re-runs when the order bank opens. I fully expect a price increase, but at anything over 7K-7.5K it’s going to be tough to justify the purchase price. A game made with off-the-shelf parts, no toys or ramps should not be in the same price range as a premium game. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a modern classic for sure, and it most definitely deserves every accolade. I just don’t see how a game with a (presumably) low bill of materials could be priced around the same amount as a premium model game such as Godzilla or Rush.

As I understand it from interviews/podcasts, all of the mechanicals are parts that anyone can buy from parts vendors such as Pinball Life. That’s what I mean by ‘off-the-shelf’…nothing specifically designed or manufactured for this game in particular. So they should be lower cost (relatively speaking) The scoop is a standard scoop that everyone uses, pop bumpers, spinners, et cetera. At least that’s the way I remember Mr. Danesi describing it in one podcast or another…I’ve had many beers since then.
This game is a cash cow for Spooky. Unlicensed theme, original music, original artwork and so on. I would guess they still pay a fee for these things (as well they should, and I hope they are paying well) BUT it’s not like paying for a license to the scale of a Led Zeppelin or Beatles. Depending on when the re-run happens (hopefully sooner rather than later) pricing is going to become a selling point as recession lurks in the corner. The manufacturers and distributors who are ignorant will reap what they’ve sown. No one needs a pinball machine.
Don’t get me wrong, costs on everything are through the roof, but the days of making more profit margin just because there is no pushback from the customer are drawing to an end. I sell mid to high-end office furniture (MillerKnoll) and I’m already seeing RFQ’s from entrenched MK customers asking for lower-priced import stuff in lieu of what they usually buy. The days of belt-tightening are nigh.

All good points! Here’s hoping that Spooky’s growth has given them some additional leverage with their vendors in regard to the cost of parts.

I bought a Fang Club membership a couple months back, in anticipation of this release. I was pretty stoked at the prospect of having a chance at buying this game NIB. Fast forward to today…I’m bummed! I refuse to pay $9K for this game AND still no word on when my Fang Club loot box is shipping! grrrrr.
I’ve had Led Zep pro model as a rental for the past month and I’ve enjoyed the heck out of it. The show with the expression lighting and color changes with the GI set a fantastic mood (I think there was inspiration drawn from Mr. Danesi’s light shows). Layout in the pro is extremely similar to Terminator 2, the rules from RayDay are user-friendly and the sound effects from Bob Baffy are ear candy. It’s no TNA, but it’s a very fun machine with a retro feel. It can be had for $7.5K. That seems like a reasonable price to me.
$9K seems like big boy money, and I’m just not feeling it with TNA. I said this in one of the other threads, but give me the basic cabinet with no add-ons. I could care less about plastics, powder coat or a real knocker. I don’t even need the subwoofer…give me RCA output and I’ll buy a big powered sub at a pawn shop for $100.
If Spooky is truly still a small boutique company in a very small production run, couldn’t they offer the stripped-down model to hit a lower price point? They used to, but now they don’t need to. There are easily 250 people who buy one of everything new that is introduced. PLUS they are driving up the market price for origin used ones. grrrrr.
Sorry for the grumbling!

GAH!! I had no idea the CE’s were still available. I ordered Scooby because 1) it was less money (in SE trim) and 2) I thought that TNA CE was sold out. I would just about swear that when I put money down for SD that TNA wasn’t shown in the store, but then again I was laser focused on making sure I got an SD so it is very possible that I just overlooked it. This is a problem! A good problem, but a problem nonetheless. One of my current machines would have to be voted off of the island if I want to add TNA to the collection.

They’re pretty specific in their T’s & C’s that one cannot transfer a deposit from one game to another. That being said I suppose it’s worth the ask, if I decide that I want to make the switch. It’s very tempting, but I have played SD and it is quite good. The main sticking point is that I love games that are mean and fast, while the rest of my family prefers games that are deeper with fewer dangerous shots. They have played SD and they LOVE it. My SD number is very late in the run. Maybe I get TNA now and by the time SD is on the line I’ll be ready to part ways with something else in the collection. Hmmm….

I’m SD# 1908 (Standard model) so we’re probably in the same time frame…Oct/Nov.

TNA is pretty much the #1 on my want list all the time. I took issue with the price, which is really the only reason I hadn’t ordered one already. I’m a no-frills guy so I just want the dang game…I don’t need powder coat or extra plastics or any of that jazz.
I really wish they would have offered a standard model.
I’m the guy who special ordered his 2015 Mustang 5.0 with cloth interior and a manual transmission. I don’t need heated seats or a big screen in the dash. I just want the big motor and that’s all I need to make me happy.
Same with my pinball…give me the base model and I can add little bits or mod it to tart it up as my budget allows in the future.
I understand why Spooky did the re-run the way they did, and the machine is beautiful…no argument there.
Rant over.

Okay I totally misread your number. This is good!! Plenty of time to save my pennies for Scoob! A new TNA is getting more tempting by the minute.
How is the wiring on the CE’s? Did they clean it up a bit? On the originals it just seemed like a bit of a mess under there, and maybe there wasn’t a good way to loom things together like other games. Lots of wires crossing over other wires and whatnot.

Thank you for the pics and explanation, this is helpful! I’m dangerously close to pulling the trigger on a new CE. Seems like there might be a few deals to be had in the used market, but I’m not in an area with a plethora of options within reasonable driving distance so then I’m paying more for transit. Not that it equals out by any means…a used one is still saving money no matter how you slice it, but if the gap is relatively small then I’m gonna lean towards NIB.

Peer pressure is a terrible, terrible thing.

BTW your video is amazing! If I end up buying one, Spooky should send you some swag or something.

How are those hinge cover lights to install? Is is a pain to take out the backbox bolts? I suppose it’s not a big deal if you flip down the head.
Here I am, asking questions and shopping for mods when I haven’t even bought a machine yet…

HA!

No game yet, but I just ordered some TNA mods…

TNA CE on the way to me soon.
Tell Spooky to send you some free stuff.
Your video was the last push I needed to make the decision.

Thanks!!
I first played TNA at a bar, back in 2018 before I really got serious into the hobby. I was in love after ball 1.
It’s always been in my top five must-haves. I had deemed the current run to be too expensive for my blood, but the want is strong. So strong in fact that I will be selling my Deadpool to help fund the purchase. Some people will call me crazy for doing that, but that is how strong my desire is for this game. It truly is a modern classic.

The main complaint I get from my family is “We don’t like to play pinball with you, because we don’t like to just sit around and watch you play for 10 minutes on every ball.” My response is always “Play Better!” To be fair, I play way more than they do…so I get it. I think this game will help, because the ball times are short and there is co-op. My family never passes up an opportunity to gang up against me. I can’t wait…the first time I power it up and hit that start button and it says WELCOME TO THE FUTURE I’m gonna get goosebumps.

Thank you!! It’s gonna be a blast.

Congratulations! Any regrets? I’ll miss Deadpool for sure, and I’ll definitely have another Gomez game in the future…but I feel like I had my fun and it’s time to move on.

I’ll let you know. I got it from a distributor who had it in stock, so should be shipping later this week I think. I told them no rush…I also have a Seawitch on the way, and I really wasn’t planning on buying two machines in the same week. Hopefully DP sells quickly so I will only have one excess pin for a short while.

I’ve been searching for information on the game story. I remember listening to a podcast interview with Scott and he talked about the plot. I know he said it was a loose storyline, but I really liked the ideas behind the story. Is there anything written in this thread about it, I’ve searched every way I can think of and can’t seem to put my finger on it. I’m pretty sure Scott talked about it in his interview with Jeff Parsons on Pinball Players Podcast episode 26, but something is broken and it won’t play on podcatchers or Spotify. Thanks in advance for your assistance! I think the story is great, and when people come to play the game I’d like to be able to say more than “well, she was sent to the future to destroy these reactors…and, um…”

Call off the bloodhounds! I finally got Spotify to work (had to logout and login again) and it was in fact Pinball Players Podcast episode 26. It was done shortly after the original release, and if you’ve not listened to it then I highly recommend it…great interview and conversation with lots of fun nuggets of trivia about the game.

GAH!!! This is fantastic news!

At launch I refused to buy one at 9K. Now I have one one the way…NIB, at $9K. That’s how great the game is. It will make you lose all sense of rationale and reason.
If you like old Williams system 11 games then you will love it.
I first played TNA when I was just starting to play pinball again (played Pinbot, High Speed & Comet every Saturday at the bowling alley when I was a kid).
Five years ago I played TNA, and I haven’t been able to get it out of my head since. I bought the soundtrack via iTunes, and I play it at least once a month.
As others have said, go play this game. Give the music a few seconds, then plunge and let that bass line hit…and let it pull you in. Cheers!

Hahahaha although it sounds like not for long…Complete backstory in progress, from the real brains behind the Danesi Dynasty.

I’m still waiting on TNA to arrive but I already have the side lights. New kits definitely have the smaller power supply now.

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I’ll report back when I get them installed. I think delivery on my machine is still about a week out. They were just finishing it up this week.

CE is boxed and leaving Spooky today! Yippy Skippy!!
Will I want to do the mod to seal the sub box, or is that something they do at the factory now?

That could be an option, I’ve got an older sub from my home system that I could repurpose. I might end up doing the seal on the internal sub anyway, since I will have to get the machine set up. Better to do it all at once at the beginnig…I have a feeling that once it’s playable I’m not going to want to take it out of commission for a while!

Thanks for the info! Oh yikes… liquid nails is no joke. I’ve built a few sub boxes in my day, and I usually use whatever exterior caulking is available at the local hardware store. Exterior caulk can be difficult to remove after it’s fully cured…I can’t imagine trying to get liquid nails to release!

The eagle has landed. CE#213 in da hizzy!

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Haven’t set it up yet, I have a couple of obligations this weekend so it might be next week by the time I get it set up. Agh! Ordered sometime around the end of March. Not exactly sure because the distributor had advertised the machine as being “in stock” when in fact they had to order it. Apparently I’d just missed the one that they had in stock but they hadn’t taken down the ad yet.

So it sounds like maybe that basic power supply was a dud, if they’ve already switched to something else. I haven’t set up my machine yet but I’m wondering if I should just go ahead and make contact with them and get it swapped out before I install. Did you email them to initiate that process?

Thank you for pioneering this idea and sharing! I didn’t realize that I could get domestically and the original link didn’t take me directly to the item, just to the UP site. So I ended up ordering directly from them…paid more in VAT and freight than the cost of the items. Ha! Oh well, still a pretty inexpensive way to ensure our beloved game runs like a sewing machine. Since these are coming from overseas I went ahead and ordered two, so I’ll have one as a backup or in case one doesn’t work. Forgive me, I’m not familiar with the original TNA design…did it use this same unit? I’m guessing no, as I would think that Sp00ky would have made a change if there were reliability issues due to heat buildup (or added a $10 cooling fan).

If you have an aversion to screws in your cabinet then you could try 3M VHB tape. If applied properly then you shouldn’t have any further issues, although if you ever decide to remove it will be much more difficult than removing screws.

Seems like both have their issues to be sorted out. Once it’s solved, the machine is right as rain for quite some time (OG or CE). I have a CE but if I’d been able to find a solid original for a decent price I would have bought it. I like the polished trim on the original better than the powder coat on the CE.

50 plays isn’t even enough time to figure out how to make your shots. This has to be someone who had never played the game prior to buying it. “This thing doesn’t even have RAMPS?!? It’s gone!!”

Already sold out. Womp Womp

After nearly a month of sitting in the box, we finally got to set up CE #213 this past weekend! It was my b-day so we had an impromptu launch party. Much fun was had. Many beers were consumed. I remember most of the evening.

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I was on the Spooky Shop a couple weeks ago and it still showing available to order. It’s taking awhile to get them through the line though. Only a handful (or less) per month, as near as I can tell. Pretty crazy to think that they’re still available because it’s a very low-volume title…meanwhile Stern is selling ‘LE’s by the thousands and sell out almost immediately. Don’t get me wrong, this is my first Spooky and there certainly are differences in the way it is made…but they’re not all that far off. Well-built machines. Yes there are some issues to work through in regards to connectors and troubleshooting but they are minimal and easy to fix.

Hahaha thanks everyone! I think we’d just finished a 4-player co-op round and everyone needed a breather and new beverage out of the fridge. LZ is probably my favorite Stern in the current collection. Very simple and fast.

It’s got to be a loose connection on a board somewhere. Unfortunately I’ve not had mine long enough to tell you where to start. Maybe there’s something in the error report in the menu that could help?

Thank You! We made that ST wall for my sons b-day party a few years back, and it’s done on a sheet of Masonite so it’s YUGE…really nowhere to store it so it’s become a permanent fixture. It made a little more sense to people who’ve not seen the show when we had the ST machine underneath it. Now ST is in the basement and theres definitely not enough room to hang the board down there!

I’m getting a slight buzz from the speakers when I hold the left flipper. Hold the right side, no buzz.
I swapped out the speakers and sub this past weekend, but I haven’t noticed any noise until today. I made sure to attach the ground cable to the sub in the exact same spot as the original, using the same hardware. Any ideas where to start troubleshooting?

Ok thanks for the info Scott! That makes sense, I had a sort of buzz on my Stern Spider-Man (probably for a different reason) and it never bothered me once I got used to it.
I probably just now noticed the buzz because I’ve had to turn down the volume once we put in the new speakers and sealed the sub box. Man, this thing will rattle the dishes in the kitchen when we have it cranked up. So much fun!!
And thank you for adding all the tracks in jukebox mode. I really enjoy listening when I’m tinkering with the machines. Scarlett and Roc are my favorites.

Auto launch is inconsistent, I think I might need to adjust the forks but I’ve never had to do this on any of my machines and I don’t want to hose it up…any pointers from the well-seasoned TNA gurus here? Some games the launch goes all the way around the orbit slick as a whistle most of the time. Other games the launch won’t even make it over the ramp in the shooter lane. It will try several times and finally I just have to plunge it myself to get the ball into play. I thought about just adjusting the power but the inconsistency leads me to believe that there’s something mechanical that I need to correct first.

Ok I might try that, once I’ve taken a slo mo of the ball launch as Scott suggested. When I was looking at it, there did seem to be a lot of play (side to side) with that assembly…particularly compared to my other games with auto launch feature (stern & data east).
Thank you for the info!

Per Scott’s suggestion I tried to add a washer and the ones I have are just a bit too thick. I needed something like half the thickness of a washer, so I added an e-clip next to the existing e-clip instead of a washer. PERFECTO! Auto launch now fires a consistently smooth loop, 100% of the time. There was just enough slop in that mech to cause the fork to hit the ball slightly off sometimes and spot-on other times. Thank you Scott!!! You are a gem to this community!

I can’t decide if I want the housing to match or if I like the old school look of the chrome housing. Knowing the price might help my decision…what do they have it priced at?

This would make a great t-shirt…add a silhouette of a knocker mech below the quote.

Perfect thanks for the info!

Wow that’s great! Kudos to the entire TNA team for another successful run. Now, if they’d just do another run of Rick & Morty…lolololol

OMG so glad to see this. You’ve been very patiently waiting MUCH longer than I hoped you’d have to. The good news is, it’s WELL worth the wait! Congratulations!!

I’ve seen a couple in the Pinside marketplace lately that I would consider to be a decent price.
The thing about TNA is, even now that there has been a second run (recently sold out, congrats Scott) there are STILL only 800 production copies in existence. That’s fewer than Stern produces for a “Limited Edition” these days. The way the game is built and the level of tech support that Scott has given to owners is unmatched. Because of the above, I think TNA is Sp00ky Pinball’s best game to date. Like Rick & Morty, it’s a uniquely modern classic (and like Rick & Morty) it’s going to hold its value a little stronger compared to titles with larger production numbers. I could be all wet, or full of hot air, or however you want to say it…just my two cents.