OMG Tunnels of Doom! My brother and i played that all the time when we were younger. In fact, i got him a TI99 and Tunnels of Doom for his b-day a few years ago. Since i didn't have a cassette deck for it, i rigged up an mp3 player to 'play' the data to make the game work!

Anyways, back to the TNA excitement-fest! Please keep sending pics and reviews and everything! I can't wait to get one for my collection!

Damn, sorry to hear that man. Hope everything works out ok for you. Hopefully you can join the club once the dust settles.

I believe the original TNA was made using some parts/cab of a Dolly Parton machine...

I was just thinking the other day about the use of the 1's digit as a counter for the # of reactors destroyed...such a cool idea! Then i was thinking, it's inevitable that one day that single point will make someone the winner in a ridiculously close game. Then i noticed the scores you happened to catch in that pic :

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Ahhh, well that makes sense! So even though it is cooperative there can still be a 'winner' in the end. Co-op is a super cool feature in it's own right! Can't wait to finally play some TNA at Pinfest!

It would look really cool with the beacon light going, there would be red beams of light visible in the fog! That could be a cool light show in it's own right. It could also provide an added level of difficulty--playing through the smoke of destruction from the recently destroyed reactor!

Under one of the slingshots? Not sure where else it could be!

Have you tugged on the wires to be sure they're on tight? Also, not sure if the coils have diodes on them, but if they do, make sure it's connected tight on that coil also. Beyond that, check the coil for resistance with a dmm. I don't have a tna (yet) but that's the stuff I'd start checking first. Are there schematics available?

Also, if the coil's power is daisy-chained from another coil, check any other coils in it's circuit and look for a loose or broken-off wire.

Looking at the chart Kingpin posted, I'd track down the J11 connector on the solenoid boards re-seat it. It looks like there's 2 boards that handle the coils (shown on the chart at least), so there may be 2 J11's. I'd reseat both to be sure. For reference, here's the board(s) you'll be looking for: https://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=4754

I think a lot of people saying that prefer 'deep' games--games that can have pretty long ball times (compared to TNA and many late 70's/early 80's SS games). The street-level layout and lack of many modes and toys leads people to assume it has little replay value outside competitive play. My collection is primarily early SS games. I play them myself quite often, and i sometimes prefer to bc i can start another game right away after getting my ass handed to me.

As always, it's really gonna boil down to what kind of pinball you enjoy playing solo. Deeper games are great for solo play because they have goals that may take 15-20+ minutes to reach. Consequently, those games can be poor choices for multiplayer since a good player may have a 5+ minute long ball, which i often find results in less engaged opponents (they might just start a game on another machine or start playing with their phone etc)...

Quicker SS games typically have much shorter ball times (many have no ball save either, contributing to those short ball times), which i think tends to keep people more active in multiplayer games. Short ball times = everybody plays more frequently. That, coupled with rule sets that are easy to grasp, makes competition (and even spectatorship) more enjoyable for everyone, including non pinheads.

Does that mean TNA is only a good multiplayer and LOTR (as an extreme example of a deep game) is only good solo? Of course not. It's all a matter of taste. I love my SS games and TNA is the first NIB i plan on buying bc i love that style of gameplay. I wound up with primarily SS games in my collection because i could never afford the higher-priced deeper games. In result i wound up finding a greater appreciation for older, easy to learn/hard to master type games. Now that i can afford a deeper game, I'm going with TNA bc it's deep for a SS-style game. I expect it'll be great for solo play bc i can challenge myself to blow up all 9 reactors. It'll be great for competitive & cooperative multiplayer too (based on feedback I've read so far).

So ultimately, it's a lifestyle choice.

Finally got to play my first game of TNA at Pinfest today! Must have been a bit of beginners luck, cuz i had quite a bit of multiball. My first impression is that I *need* to join this club asap! Really tempted to put down a deposit...

(I was so excited to get my pic next to it after the game was over, i almost forgot to enter my initials for #3 high score! )

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My friends and I played them both at Pinfest and visibility was not an issue in the least. I really don't get why they insist on making such a fuss over this. Nobody else has an issue with the visibility on the playfield. Maybe their vision's going on them and they're in denial about it? Really seems like a weird thing to rag on about when nobody else has mentioned even a small problem with it.

If the switch is riveted to the mounting bracket: I'd take the switch out of the game, drill out the rivets, and then install screws and nuts where the rivets were. You should be able to get them very tight so the target won't move.

I'd check the spring on the drop target assembly, maybe it came off somehow? Also check for any binding when the target moves up and down.

First thing i would suggest doing would be to unplug and re-plug the various connectors to the power supply and circuit boards. (With the power off, of course)

Did this problem just start happening recently?

There's plenty of good choices out there, but these work fine for me. I have a pair in my home tools and my work tools.

https://m.harborfreight.com/7-inch-wire-stripper-with-cutter-98410.html?utm_referrer=direct%2Fnot%20provided

Wow! Has the game officially sold out of spots on the reserve list? I thought they were doing 550 games for now, though i could be mistaken.

i knew this day would come! That ones digit was gonna decide a game sooner or later!

Agreed on the shaker. It's *so* well implemented on this game! I've always had a lukewarm kind of attitude toward shakers generally, but it's a must on this game. You'll see why once you get it!

Have you tried adjusting the scoop as recommended in this thread? Sounds like a common problem for this game.

Which production number is your TNA?

That was one of those moments i always *wish* i was recording. Awesome save!

$6650 w/ butter cab

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Seems to be looking to trade, though priced at $5900

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Are they tightened down enough? I think another poster here at the club was having the same problem even with the washers. After cranking the new replacement posts down a bit tighter (he admitted he was trying to avoid over-tightening after first installing the washers), i believe the problem went away.

Hard to say! I think the other guy was theorizing that it was allowing the post to move too much, causing chipping around the bottom of the posts... Though i think you may be onto something with your theory.

I honestly think it's the coolest package to receive music on, whether the music itself it was originally recorded digital or analog. Sound quality is obviously not taking center-stage, but most new vinyl that can be purchased these days includes an mp3 download as well, so you often get the best of both worlds, imo. I love hanging my favorite record sleeves on the walls (there's square frames specifically for just that), so there's that reason too.

I think in this case it also has that retro appeal i think the game is going for. So it may not make sense from a sound-quality perspective, but it does have a coolness factor that i can't deny though. I guarantee I'd be buying a copy on vinyl if Scott made it happen. If for no other reason than to support him while getting something very cool in return.

Maybe that could be a mystery award - "add beep"?!

That's great! You guys ever play co-op? I find it makes for even more spirited 'shared celebration'

I don't even own a TNA (yet), but I'm consistently excited by all the features and polish this game continues to get. This is a perfect example--a simple tweak that can make a drastic difference for the player. Great stuff, man! I'm even *more* excited to own a TNA someday.

As someone who's been watching the market for TNA since it was released, i think the games eventually wound up in the hands of folks that realize what an awesome game it is. Just like any new release, some people will give it a try and put it back on the market after a couple months (where it was fairly regular to see them changing hands at first). As evidenced by some of the discussions I've seen on pinside--the game is definitely not for everyone. At this point, TNA has been around for a couple years and many of those types of transactions already took place.

It's also worth noting that the game still continues to get attention from it's designer, who has found ways to make the game even better. RGB lit drop targets, RGB LCDs, regular code updates, even more lighting tweaks and options. It's become a cult classic for good reason, and it wouldn't surprise me if it's value has gone up because more people are finding out how awesome a game it is. With a run of 550, it seems possible that many are in the hands of folks who have no intention of selling anytime soon. I know when i get mine someday it'll be a keeper in my collection.

Good luck on the hunt! It'll be worth it.

Fwiw, a pinsider and pf restoration expert Ron Kruzman sells a "playfield prep" kit with various drill bits and other useful tools for making pf swaps easier/less risky. I don't think there's any site to order them from, as far as i know you just have to contact him directly for the kit. I've been following a couple pf swap threads and folks there were talking about it, said it works well. I have a couple pf swaps coming up and I'm planning on ordering a kit in preparation for them.

Good luck, TNA def looks a bit more involved than a lot of pfs out there.

TNA is one of those games that really needs to be experienced in person to fully appreciate. The light show, the music, the action--for me it's a game that consistently gets the adrenaline pumping. Congrats on the pickup, it's the last game I need to "complete" my collection...

The simultaneous sting of being priced out of a new one and a used one at the same time

I was in for a new one at $7500, doesn't even look like that will cover a used original now, lol!

Love the game though, and I'll still be trying to find a way to get one in my collection...though it's likely to involve a 3-for-1 trade or something crazy like that.

Glad to see more in circulation, at very least! To those who are stepping up to own one of these: congrats!

Edit: I'll admit, I was probably being too optimistic they'd release it that cheap. Just hard watching the values on all these games shoot up so quickly though

Congrats on your Rush, but zebpin61 has a very good suggestion: make absolutely certain to follow the Node 10 fiasco thread. Pinsider Peak-Pin did some terrific detective work and sorted out an issue many Prem/LE owners were running into. It's doesn't even look like that difficult a fix to perform...

Especially after all the QC issues you've been having with this game, it would really suck to dive right into another series of headaches with your new acquisition.

Sorry TNA didn't work out for you in the end, but glad you were able to get it fixed!

Damn, good catch!

For real!

Jesder do you play in tourneys? Sounds like you’ve got some serious chops, lol!

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