The value is in holding the spot, so it would make more sense to auction off the spot, or for the holder of the spot to charge a premium for it. You can buy a spot, or wait for one to come up, or loose out on a spot if none come up or costs too much. Or, you can end up with 2 spots. By spot I mean serial number... not when it gets made...

Why would someone post a review of 1.4 with this comment and not get deleted?:

"Played it once, that was enough. Boring, repetitive, and the music started to give me a headache. If someone offered this game to me for free, I would have to think about it due to the fact I have limited space. Not impressed, and at the price point they are asking, there is no way I would ever buy this game."

If the user played it once, why did he first make a review 30 days ago, and then updated 6 days ago?

I wonder if the design of this game lends itself better to having many versions of code offering up a broader range of games compared to other designs? For example, adding a feature that causes the reactor to start 'leaking' would involve just having leds programmed to flash different color timed sequences etc. I think the lack of ramps and toys, and relying on lights, color, sounds, targets, shots, time make it a better generic platform for custom code forks, but not sure.

Also, having unique call-outs that rarely repeat themselves, like sounds song samples would be cool, as I find call-outs can get repetitive. Having 'organic' callouts with lots of cheap onboar memory to spare, and lots of license free sounds/music can make it more interesting than repeating call-outs... Same with light sequences, having randomness in the light patterns can make it more interesting over time, I would think. Most games have yet to take full advantage of the the ability to program LEDs and change their colors in new ways not possible in the past.

This is awesome. I have the AFMle and am concerned about bad batches of LEDs and their 3-led pod failing at once... like your green LEDs, so nice job making them plugable.

Yes, stuff like that sounds very cool and can get creative. The more customization, the more 'randomness' can be enabled too, like randomly leading the player through all of the known modes, and pulling new modes off the cloud.

Something as simple as incrementally brightening all the LEDs the further along you get is cool.

Yes, I also will be doing this. I also have a spare JL Audio 8" sub which I ended up not using for my truck, and may see about how that can be fit inside a cabinet ( not TNA )

That does not sound normal for a power supply fan I don't think...

I would be willing to do a fanless as an upgrade, or will gladly swap it out too if the part number is made available.

that would be frikin awesome, with 2 red leds that brighten, but unfortunately now not possible as an original idea or part of the game

I like the idea of having leds above the flippers 'heat up' the quicker the flippers are hit, and eventually get red hot, but if they overheat, the flipper power lowers so the ball only makes it up to the middle of the playfield to hit a special target to re-engergize or cool the flippers type of idea

I got the hot-pink sack rack. Am I missing something obvious about this item? I have the 4 coins, and set it on my AFMr for now, but does it serve another purpose or have special use that I am too new to figure out?

I'm wondering how well the butter would wear over time, potentially chipping or cracking if the cabinet shifts slightly and repeatedly over time. I know the cab flexes slightly on sub and shaker... have there been clearcoat cabinets made many years ago that have aged well? If a non-butter gets damaged over time, the sticker can be replaced, but for the butter, not sure how to repair a chipped side if that ever happens.

Is the idea that once we get a TNA, we can continue to built/modify it along with new features added on new versions of it? It would be good to always have upgrade kits so we can maybe get a chance down the road to have 'unique' TNAs just by how they are setup or configured with different upgrades? The list of upgrades is endless i think... but would be good to have official upgrade kits instead of 3rd party, anyways, just a thought.

I guess I need to be 'in' on this one, I don't get it

that is pretty cool! big dolly boobies tna #meetoo

For the upgrades, having everything tested and working well with the existing closed-sourced software would be an advantage over having 3rd party upgrades, even if it means fewer official upgrades available. So much can go wrong and there may be software ideas planned for the future that could make some upgrades make more sense than others. I like the side rail lights but what if there is was an official side rail light kit that integrated correctly with the software...? That would be cooler than the one I'll be getting, since it cannot take advantage of closed-software and future features not yet made public. That's why I was thinking official upgrade kits are better perhaps.

If in 10 years from now, I somehow manage to damage a butter cabinet, would it be more difficult to repair than a non-butter? I plan on keeping mine for some time, and realize it may be difficult to keep dings off of it over the long-run, even with as much care as I would give it. I'm curious to find out how I would fix a ding on a butter? If it's a really bad ding, would I cover it with a decal to repair it?

Thanks for the advice ya'll. Shipping the butter is a bit risky too, so saving money and not worrying about getting a damaged NIB is good too.

Definitely nothing wrong with that butter cabinet for sure, it's AWESOME! I plan on keeping it for many years ( forever ) and I don't know how to handle if any damage occurs to the butter at one point, and would either need to cover over the clearcoat with a new decal. WIth the margarine I could always have it looks 10/10 with new decals... any thoughts?

Does the TNA playfield dimple or chip or is it pretty solid compared to others like AFMr which easily dimples and leaves 'lines'. Just curious how the clearcoat compares and if I should get a full playfield protector if they make one.

Does anyone have any chipping or dimpling on their playfield yet? I'm curious to find out how it's performing compared to others like CGC's. Would be good if there was none!

Ok, good to know!

I had the same thing happen on my AFMrLE. The hole which the spring goes through had a bit of a sharp edge from the drill, and it cut through the spring loop. I ended up smoothing the holes a bit and re-attached the springs a after bending the loop back and it worked ok so far. Maybe they used the same flipper hardware and it was a bad batch.

I'm curious, what hardware platform does TNA use, and where do I get info. on it? Is it some type of open platform that is used for other pins?

kool

Awesome. I'll get around to looking closer at this, I'm curious to find out how the code/rules handle all of the states the machine can be in, and how complex the state rules get... tough to test all the state combinations for sensors/timers/counters etc.

Is the shaker and knocker easy to install, or is there a benefit in having Spooky install them?

If I already have the mirrors and decide to get the side art, will the mirrors damage the side art or will I be able to remove the mirrors if I want to show the artwork?

How is the playfield holding up? Any cliffys needed?

Are cliffys recommended or is there no need for that? Is chipping at the holes normal for any pin or are some pins ( maybe like TNA ) durable enough so the clearcoat won't chip? I'm only on my first pin so not sure what to expect

black electric tape worked perfect for my AFMrLE rattle. ( 1 strip folded over each side )

It must be the type of electrical tape used. Mine has no chance of binding or coming off, and have had the glass removed many times. Some had commented on the AFMr group a couple of months ago that the specialty rattle-proof tape was binding and coming off.

What is involved in removing the head from the cabinet?

Will cliffy's be needed anywhere on TNA?

Ok, good. What about a full playfield protector? I know some would not want that but I would like to keep it minty fresh...

Awesome! I"m glad I'm not alone, I love my full playfield protector for my AFMrLE. I like knowing I can play hard and not do any damage, but realize some say it affect game play, but I don't notice, I'm too new to pinball

Maybe I'll contact the pp in germany and ask them to cut one...

UPDATE: Ok, I just emailed [email protected] to ask him for a TNA playfield protector.

This is not very sound advice. You use extreme terms like 'hot garbage', 'utterly unnecessary', 'cut their price', 'paranoid' etc. You must have had a bad experience with a playfield protector at one point, but the one I have on my AFMrLE is just fabulous and others agree. If it's not for you, I can understand, but for you to accuse someone of having a mental disorder because they want to protect their game is odd.

it is a bit drastic to call someone paranoid over a plastic protector no?

"n. A psychotic disorder characterized by delusions of persecution with or without grandeur, often strenuously defended with apparent logic and reason."

https://www.wordnik.com/words/paranoia

Maybe it is a bit crazy that I am looking to protect Scott's creation so carefully though, you may have a point.

Is it true that TNA gets repetitive? I'm new to pinball and don't have mine yet, but am under the impression that after I get better at pinball, I will appreciate TNA more, and not consider it to be boring or repetitive? My assumption is that the ramps and 'toys' on pinballs can become background noise after a while and loose their fun-factor, and the game really becomes all about making 'the shot' and the code of the game? For example, I'm just realizing now that my AFMrLE's ramps just bring the ball back down to the flipper and may not be adding much 'fun' to the game? Does it do well in arcades or bars? I really want to get something that I can hang on to for years and not get bored with, so any input from old-timers would be appreciated I was planning on getting MMr but the game play/layout is too similar to my AFMrLE.

relative to other pins.

Thanks, great info. so far!

I would imagine a long lasting game would involve rewarding the player for good 'flipper skills', and having a wide range of challenging target shots including orbits, as well as fast ball game play? I would think having toys and ramps are not as rewarding for an advanced player, as let say having to use good aim hitting targets in time or the right sequence?

Funny I was thinking the exact same thing...

I ordered the side mirrors and side rail lights for mine. I only have room for 3 pins and have an AFMrLE now, with the TNA to go with it. I figure they are completely different styles and gameplays and its a better match than MMr since that would be too 'boring' being so similar to AFMr. Not sure what my third pin will be, but I'm fairly certain TNA is a good one I will enjoy for many years. I'm not sure how yet, but I think the lights sound and code will make this a favorite for long lasting fun factor. I also think if it does get repetitive ( and I don't think it will ) than that can be fixed with code.

Very cool pins, specially that Radical! I can totally see how newer electronics and software can revive these types of games too. I do like the ramps though, I kinda wish TNA had one I'll keep an eye out for Pat Lawlor games for my third pin. Is he working on any new games?

awesome thanks!

Yeah, I watched the TNA stream again for a bit and it sure does look fun, can't wait for mine.

I have extra mylar sheets. Will there be spots where I can apply some on TNA? Not sure how long the sheets will store for ( before they will loose their stickiness )

Is it worth the upgrade? How does it look with the 13 led?

I will get one of these for sure.

Is this an official topper or a 3rd party topper? Looks good either way. If its' 3rd party, just curious to find out why you made your own renditions and not match it up perfectly with the playfield/art? Still planning to get one, but more curious than anything... Is spooky coming out with a TNA topper down the road?

Ah, ok that makes sense, and that was the impression I had... I really like the artwork, too bad it does not match the exact theme of TNA somehow, as it takes away from it slightly, and it's a bit obvious the artwork is different... I know how complicated artwork copyright can be too, so I"m still in on the topper

Very good idea! It would be cool if when you pushed the TNA a digital tilt-bob ( cheap digital accelerometer ) would pulse the playfield LEDS somehow or have special affects with lights and sound etc.

Where is the artwork on this?

Do we wax the TNA playfield, and if so, what wax should I use?

Should I plan on waxing TNA's playfield? ( sorry for the newb question, just not sure if it's needed with that type of clearcoat or just wipe it down with a cloth ) I also have a bunch of extra mylar sheets, are there spots I can use those on for TNA?

Awesome, thanks!!

There is this one:

Are you sure you are 245? If you just ordered, I don't think that is possible right? Did you take over someone else's spot?

I'm 234 KT told me late spring or early summer a couple of months ago!

Maybe the first 100 took longer to build than the next 100 will take since they are fine-tuning production. I don't mind waiting, my guess is July 1st

Has anyone gotten that shooter rod mod? I'm wondering if that is a good mod to get, it's not cheap

Where do I get those flipper lights?

Also, I already have mirror blades, but was planning on getting the side art option but having the mirror cover up the art... is that ok or will I damage the art when installing the mirror blades?

A fog mod would be fun with a large blast on each reactor destruction.

Is there a way to attache my mirror blades over the side art without damaging too much or should I just not get side art since I already have my mirror blades? I was hoping to have both, with the option to take off the mirror blades if I ever wanted to, maybe with velcro or something.

Is TNA a good game to have if I plan on playing single-player only, and are code updates focusing on single player-mode? When I read the reviews, I just see the only real negative comments being about repetitive play and single-player mode fun-factor?

Good info. thanks!

Does anyone have a mouser link for the stock power supply? I'm interested to compare the specs.

I don't know enough about pins, but would the power supply in TNA not be similar to the one in my AFMrLE? I have never heard my power supply running... If the TNA is the same, than it is pretty quiet...

Would be interesting to send the old fan back to Spooky so they can check if it's defective...

better now so it does not snow-ball and take up more time, shipping fans some complain are too loud and are replacing right-away on their own. This type of feedback is crucial to ensuring top quality, so I do hope they find the time to investigate this core piece of hardware.

EDIT: I'm not claiming something is wrong with the TNA fan, I have not gotten mine yet, but thought it was important to address this seeing customers are already swapping out the fan as a 'mod' and that part would usually be an issue for a company to address. My AFMrLE has no fan noise at all, but noticed the comparison was made to Stern and JPP which very well may have loud fans relative to others like CGC.

Should I add a couple of coats of Carnauba wax when I first get my TNA? Will that protect the playfield a bit? It's my second pin so bit of a newb and not sure if I should wait to do that.

Has anyone gotten the side art AND install the mirror blades? I wondering if there is a way to mount the mirror blades without damaging the artwork?

I wonder how TNA does at locations compared to others... if it's a frustrating game, maybe some rate lower on pinside but sink more quarters into it...

Or have 2 TNAs side-by-side connected to each other and have some type of battle between them somehow... triggering stuff on the other's machine etc. when you start to play 1, the other one invites people to battle

It is!

I was thinking more as a fun 'brainstorm' idea that may be possible for some pin to do in the future... having more than 1 pin at a location could maybe attract more players than not having them networked and interact as nodes, like the car driving/racing cabinets do. Possible in that regard.

So when I get my TNA, I need to replace the loud power supply, fix the loud light AND replace the display? wtf.

Ok, so why are other replacing them? fun?

There are mods and fixes, and the loud power supply, loud light and now 'washed out' lcd are fixes to me. I see I'll get roasted if I bring up anything negative so I'll keep my comments to myself, but I have a weird gut feeling about this.

I do apologize for offending you.

Thank you

Is anyone affiliated with Spooky in this forum?

I know scott is, but would also be good to get a list so users can 'tune-into' official posts only.

That is why I was looking for the specs on the stock, I'm worried using different cooling may not work as well when it means the most, spinning up etc. I was planning on having TNA on in my living room but will see how the fan is when I get it.

I was planning on having TNA on in my living room, so I'll wait to see how loud the fan actually is when I get it.