TheNoTrashCougar on this thread designed the game and is doing the code..lol He is a great guy but I am sure he is keeping that a secret for now..

I know who TNTC is, I love his work I have a R&M from new, but only recently picked up a TNA, so not familiar with all the TNA ins and outs as yet. Just thought there may be some details out there.

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You seem to have a beautiful example too.. I bet it's hard to come by down there.

Excellent taste. I should probably put mine side by side as well. Can’t wait to see 2.0 and Scott’s next design.

I’ve only seen one other in Oz, but a number of people have them in private collections.

Thanks!! It is beautiful, the previous owner installed every worthwhile mod, looks and plays great!!

So here is more TNA merch everyone needs. https://shop.northstarpinball.com/

TheNoTrashCougar any news being this?
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Just ordered my Total Nuclear Annihilation vinyl. Great idea.

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Stock TNA speaker lights: do they compare to SpeakerLights.com kits?

I don't have a TNA in front of me, but I have a deal for one in motion and I'm already poking around on this thread to learn more about the owners' experience and to get ideas for upgrades/enhancements/mods.

I'm told the speaker lights in this game are installed at the factory. Do they have any variability? Can they be set to one of several "patterns"? Can they be set to respond to the music like an EQ?

I have some experience with the Deluxe 5.25" speaker light kit from SpeakerLights.com and wonder if the stock lights are basically the same thing or if they are noticeably inferior. What do you owners think of your stock lights?

Thanks.

What kind of bulbs are in the stock TNA general-illumination?

Are they all 2SMD frosted cool-white? Are they rebranded Cointaker or Comet bulbs, or are they something Spooky brings in from China as a "house brand"? Could they be clear-lensed and *not* frosted?

Thanks.

Please steer me to the post number in this thread that tackles making custom sound code for TNA.

(If this kind of customization is actually *not* something P-ROC games actually support, I would like to know that, too, obviously.)

I would like to know how involved this process is. I would like to know if it's similar to how I have used Pinball Browser to change sound/music on SAM and SPIKE II games from Stern.

** Update: **

Found this post on the Pinball Browser thread, so it looks like the process *is* similar to that used for Stern games. Sweet!

Thanks.

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Every LED on TNA is RGB.
This is the a GI
https://www.pinballlife.com/p3-roc-single-rgb-gi-pcb-assembly.html
The inserts
https://www.pinballlife.com/p3-roc-single-rgb-insert-led-pcb-assembly.html
And the pop bumper

https://www.pinballlife.com/p-roc-rgb-pop-bumper-board-assembly.html

Also do NOT try to make custom sound for TNA. It is perfect as is.

speaker lights are all tied into the light shows in the game, they are also RGB.

Thanks, Trilogy. Very helpful! It looks like there really is no way to customize the GI or inserts in this game. They use these trick little assemblies throughout and *not* bulbs/sockets! Got it.

Also helpful. Thanks, BorgDog!

Beacon bulb: what is it and can it be replaced?

I'm sure you're thinking at this point that I'm bent on customizing everything in this game, but that's not really my plan. I just put a lot of stock in the GI/insert lighting on games and strive to maximize it however I can - usually by upgrading to superior bulbs. Does the beacon use an "RGB assembly" just like the GI/inserts, or does it have a fairly standard white LED?

Thanks.

The info you found on pinball browser for customizing Spooky games is for games with the Pinheck boards. It won’t work, TNA uses P-ROC. There is no need to ever customize the sound on TNA it is perfect as is.

PinMonk's Quiet-Fan mod: is it recommended for TNA?

I put one of these quiet fans in a Stern SPIKE II game and was glad I did.

Is the power supply on Spooky games similarly noisy and thus would benefit from this mod?

Thanks.

Also very helpful. Thanks!

The speaker grills were an option that some installed at factory.
Mine did not have the speaker grills and lighting when i bought it, but i contacted Spooky and was able to order it and install myself.
Also before PinMonk made it easy, I swapped the power supply fan on mine and it mad a considerable difference.

Good to know. Thanks, Morinack.

May I ask which fan you purchased? It may not be available any longer if it was a while ago. Do you recall its specs?

Thanks!

I would say the sound of the fan on SPIKE II and Spooky games is similar. If you are happy with the mod on your SpikeII game you will be happy with the mod on a Spooky game

This is the fan I used https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000234W04/

I would wait until you get it, I'm assuming it's used so it may have already been swapped.

DIY quiet fans:

Searching this thread for "quiet fan" turns up a few DIY installations. One, from BorgDog, references a fan still available on Amazon. Did this fan work out well for you, BorgDog? Would you recommend I install one, too?

Thanks.

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Anyone willing to part with their tna butter ?

Cool! Seller told me his game does *not* have the quiet fan as far as he is aware.
I'm down to try this Amazon fan, but the three-wire/two-wire gives me pause. Is using the three-wire harness as simple as cutting off the additional wire and then soldering the connector from the stock fan to the replacement fan's harness? I don't mind supporting PinMonk, but I also like saving money and would tackle this project if it's not too demanding. My soldering skills aren't bad.

I haven't one to part with, no, but I'm curious: why do you need the Butter cabinet? By stipulating Butter, you lower your odds of scoring a TNA considerably, no? Or am I mistaken and the majority of TNA's were ordered with the Butter cabinet?

Not a whole lot of butter cabinets out there. I would think you could request a butter cabinet if you buy a TNA when Spooky does the next run.

I had a butter one. I sold it now want one again. I have owned it and am ok waiting for the right one.

Before I installed their quiet fan my TNA sounded like a jet about to take off. Couldn't hear it once you were playing, but while it was booting it was quite loud. Now it's basically silent. Huge upgrade for me.

Here’s a butter that just popped up for sale!
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-total-nuclear-annihilation-76#post-6572491

Lifetime plays count on P3-ROC games?

Please tell me if the lifetime plays count in the audits on TNA is reset when a code update is done or if - like Stern's SPIKE II - the tally is absolute and is *not* reset with an update.

Thanks!

Not a p3-roc thing, but counts do reset on TNA on code updates.

Based on post count, I thought that 2.0 code had dropped or something equally awesome.

Anyone have experience using a white power ball with this game? Wondering if it is going to mark the table up any differently than a steel ball?

Luv my power ball!
The ball it self picks up crud but zero impact to PF.
It adds so much to the play of this game.
I have never gotten past reactor #3 and i like to blame it on the PB.

For the love of all that is holy and sacred, don’t mess with the sound. Just play it and enjoy it, its great. It doesn’t need any mods really. If you think you need to add something, do the quiet fan mod and stickers from FlashInstinct.

The amount of plays is not the important metric. Condition is. Judge the value on condition.

I made my fan for tna because pin monk didn’t sell them at the time. I haven’t made one since because its not worth the time and extra couple bucks you save. Pinball Life sells the monk’s fans. You can support Scott and Vic at the same time by ordering one in your next parts order. Stuff is onsale for expo! Deals to be had!

This is the beacon bulb I have. I believe Scott linked to it back in 2018. Its a tight fit, but very bright, lights up the whole room.Recommend.

iBrightstar Newest 9-30V Super Bright Low Power 1157 2357 2057 7528 BAY15D LED Bulbs with Projector Replacement for Stop Tail Brake Lights, Brilliant Red https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MY4T4BU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VKC5TT9CET2V6E1RTM2S

the one mod I do really like, but not for the faint of heart, is the frosted lit drop targets. details in this thread somewhere.

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Still want to do this. Its on the list.

I've got one with a butter cab that I've been considering selling.

The cabinet is perfect, but the playfield does have some chipping.

Thanks, Eric! Super helpful!

Ooh! That looks dope! Love it!

I seem to be drawing the ire of this group by daring to even propose a customization of the sound on this game. I do like it well enough. I just happen to really enjoy using Pinball Browser to customize my games if I can. It's fun.

I hear ya, I do. To some degree many might feel like its painting overtop the mona lisa. Scott’s audio is a key piece of the game that makes tna a masterpiece. I’d encourage you to play it as is for at least a month before you go full ham. Perhaps consider focusing on destroying at least 5 reactors in a game instead of tinkering with it right away.

I’d hate to see you focus on mods, potentially create some issues, and then declare tna a lemon. You’d miss out on a great pinball experience.

Please tell us how you lit these frosted/clear drop targets. I'm assuming you light them from below. Did you mount three sockets nearby on the underside of the PF or did you perhaps use on long 6V strip light? And how did you power these sockets/strip? Can you tie into the GI using Comet's Matrix system to power additional bulbs? Oh, and are TNA's drop targets the Williams type and what is a source for replacement target decals?

Thanks!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/total-nuclear-annihilation-cluball-welcome/page/136#post-5660175

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/total-nuclear-annihilation-cluball-welcome/page/136#post-5659852

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1054-flashinstinct/01381-total-nuclear-annihilation-target-decals