Next time that happens, go into the serive menu and select the Error Report. That will tell you what is going on. You can look at it even before a credit dot is issued and see any potential issues. It could be a jam opto, or shooter lane switch issue.

Hope that helps.
--Scott

Thanks! I'm going to go in there and poke around. I didn't see that option, but I may have been a teeny bit impatient

It's under Statistics>Error Report

Anyone ever get a sudden random weak flip?

Usually a flipper switch. I dug into this issue on a game once and spent hours in the code and looking for overheating issues and it turned out just to be a flipper switch out of adjustment. Note to future self..... check the easy stuff first!
--Scott

This can also occur if a bunch of coils are firing at once. Happened all the time when the reactor core switches were too close together and a single ball hit with make them rapid pulse a bunch of times (before latest beta). The flippers would either not fire at all or be weak sauce.

Our left scoop optos have been acting up lately at random, even firing the coil in attract mode. Nothing is interfering and the solder joints are fine

TNA owners! If you don't mind can you answer my poll in my other post?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/what-size-collection-fits-a-tna#post-5226724

Basically trying to figure out what size collection best fits a TNA. Thanks!

I am having this same problem. I was able to get it to go nuts in switch test jiggling one of the wires daisy chained to the left. When I went back to fix it a day later I could not reproduce the problem and everything was fine. No amount of yanking or jiggling could get the opto to go inactive and all behaved normally. I was hoping for a break in the wire but I think it's some other kind of gremlin.

Anybody have their TNA bricked during update?

Does yours appear bricked? What's it doing? Boot looping?

not that i am aware of. what seems to be the issue?

Won't boot.

Maybe "boot looping."

Have you tried booting it with the update flash drive plugged in, to attempt to re-update? And also, which version are you attempting to update to?

Does your lcd screen show/ say anything while trying to boot? You may have loosened the wire that goes to the lcd , when you removed your thumb drive after update . Game won’t boot with a bad connection to lcd.

The updates do not mess with the operating system of the game, so it is super unlikely an update caused a brick scenario. Which version were you updating to? Also, try and re-download the file and update again. You should be back up and running in no time.

--Scott

Thanks, Scott. Thanks everyone. I'll have Kris (my tech) look at this. Hoping to play more soon!!!

The TNA I have here has suddenly, randomly started putting extra balls into play, should I be looking at trough switches ( wouldn't a dodgy trough switch cause games to end prematurely? ) , jam opto or shooter lane switch?

Wish mine would do that. Maybe I'd get past reactor 5 for once.

Yea random lights started coming on. Im gonna reinstall the previous version

Mine did that before. It was a cracked solder joint on the opto board power socket. Wiggle the connectors to the opto boards to the trough and if it triggers it thats the one

boot looping sounds about right.
Tries to boot, about 3 seconds in it resets, then it tries again about 3-5 more times, only less text each time than the first. Then it stays at a blank screen. GI lights all on white, score displays scrolling.

Tried to reflash it and it says updating and update finished then when rebooting it does the same thing.
Maybe I can try reflashing it again with a different USB. Latest version from the website

Spooky suggesting moving the USB cables to different sockets on the processor board and that didn't do anything.

TNA boot screen (resized).png

When mine was doing what you described, including lights not being right, was due to bottom lock opto transmitter not working. It would start multiball from shooter lane thinking there was a ball in the bottom lock when there was not.... the opto transmitter connector wasn't fully punched. Fixing that solved all the wierd issues. Check all your lock opto transmitters are lit (my mobile phone camera showed up IR light to check this).

Hope that helps somehow

I had that problem also Kevin, Spooky sent me new trough onto boards and that fixed it.

On another topic, I keep getting the odd drop target error message but the drops seem to work ok - any ideas?

Turned out to be the jam opto, connector wiggle fix

kbliznick yeah I'm betting the USB is funny or the update file is corrupted. Try downloading with a different browser and a different USB.

It's the Russian, I say. Will make you play less pinball and drink more Vodka.

For anyone interested in my Nanoleaf/Hue lighting setup wired to the beacon, I made a github repo for the project.
https://github.com/camprevail/pinballESPlighting/

What's the approx. cost of the setup?

I wouldn't have the slightest idea on where to begin after doing a little looking around...

Well shit... That is cool as hell. I guess I need to do that now too.

Thank you for sharing!! This is awesome!

I can't figure out what it is? Pics or vid?

It's a way to sync Phillips HUE lights to the beacon on TNA. I would LOVE to do this with my HUE bulbs. Unfortunately I think the process of building and coding this is over my head. It would be awesome if somebody would put a nice package of this together to sell. **hint hint**

Great, let us know when it's available on PinballLife.

I made it as simple as possible so all you have to do is update a few variables at the top of the arduino code with your Nanoleaf IP, Wifi SSID & Password, Nanoleaf API key, etc. Unfortunately even sold as a kit, you'd still have to add that stuff to the code and upload it yourself. But the entire build process is pretty well explained in the github readme page.

If you wanted to use hue lights though, the code will require just a little bit of tweaking.

FatPanda Appx. cost is $20. Links to parts are the first few lines on the github page.

I'm having an issue lately with the 3rd drop target not going down when hit trying to relight locks. (CPU control works fine.) Is that a common issue? Haven't had time to look under the hood yet.

I saw those costs. Thanks! It looks like the nanoleaf panels are where the bulk of the cost will be. I'll have to keep looking into this as it's a really awesome accent to any game room.

Probably a dirty or hung up drop target. Lift the playfield and see if you can get it to go up and down manually with your finger. Most likely just getting caught or something. This is assuming that you tried it in the Drop Target Test in the service menu and it works fine there.
--Scott

Thanks, Charlie and Scott (and Kris)! TNA's running like a champ again!

Update for everyone about the meters. The first handful have finally been completed and shipped this morning. Tomorrow I will be posting a seperate thread containing installation and adjustment instructions. Finally Monday I will begin to pm the first batch waiting list as kits become available. Be one the lookout tomorrow and can't wait to see these out in the wild.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nh15TjevN89wyNWr6

This looks amazing! Cant wait to get mine installed! Hopefully soon

Fantastic news twhtalm - definitely looking forward to this mod. The video makes the plunger tracking action look super-smooth and very responsive. My inbox is ready!

Just watched the video. Very cool. Does this help with getting plunged shots to fall through the lanes. I have a very tough time with that even after a year or whatever of ownership.

I went from 1 in 5 making it through the lanes to multiples in a row. Once the sweet spot on the display was found it became much easier but not a gimme. Don't forget to give the machine a good nudge while the ball passes through the gates.

Watching my inbox. Cool cool mod

Would doing a playfield swap on this machine require soldering?

I have been thinking just changing the shooter spring to one that is not as strong might help. Anybody try a weaker spring on the shooter rod for plunged shots ?