(Topic ID: 183527)

Total Nuclear Annihilation production by Spooky Pinball

By Grizlyrig

2 years ago

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“Would you buy this if Spooky Pinball built it? How much would you be willing to pay?”

  • Yes 156 votes
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  • $5500-5750 324 votes
  • $5751-6000 98 votes
  • $6001-6250 63 votes
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Post #11 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by APB_Enterprises (2 years ago)

Post #301 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by stevevt (2 years ago)

Post #360 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by trilogybeer (2 years ago)

Post #376 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by FalconPunch (2 years ago)

Post #1501 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by johnnyutah (2 years ago)

Post #1502 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by oohlou (2 years ago)

Post #1768 Comments from the artist about the game's art Posted by mandraws (2 years ago)

Post #2179 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by SpookyCharlie (2 years ago)

Post #2378 webcast info on TNA and Jetsons. Posted by SpookyCharlie (2 years ago)

Post #2515 YouTube vid. Great quality. Posted by DeadFlip (2 years ago)

Post #2530 Game not yet complete and more code and updates and graphics will be coming. Posted by TheNoTrashCougar (2 years ago)

Post #2942 Link to buy your very own sac rack! Posted by TheNoTrashCougar (2 years ago)

Post #3056 Interview from the corn field drive. Part one and part two. Posted by toyotaboy (2 years ago)

Post #3193 Video of first production game. Thanks Deadflip. Posted by toyotaboy (2 years ago)

Post #3284 Place to order a knocker and shaker. Posted by PDFVT (2 years ago)

Post #3335 Good pictures! Posted by johnnyutah (2 years ago)

Post #3431 List of boards in the final game Posted by TheNoTrashCougar (2 years ago)

Post #3623 Link to buy the custom pingulp. Posted by iEatHands (2 years ago)

Post #3842 launch of interior side mirrors for TNA Posted by TheNoTrashCougar (2 years ago)

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#402 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinfactory2000:

Whats total annihilation? (the theme)

It's a real time strategy game where you unleash robot armies against your enemy while simultaneously protecting your own base. Gather resources and build better and better units. First to destroy the opposition's commander wins the game.

#514 2 years ago

What percentage of people who "love" TA are going to disappointed because the game doesn't turn out how they imagined it.

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#666 2 years ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

This pinball is now officially called
"Total Nuclear Annihilation"

Smart move.

#688 2 years ago

Good job leascippi in getting this changed. You were right all along.


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#692 2 years ago
Quoted from jwilson:

They're doing it pre-emptively, just to avoid any possible issue.

Which is pretty much exactly the suggestion that was made.

#698 2 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

"Total Nuclear Annihilation" is too much, sounds odd. Just make it "Nuclear Annihilation" and be done with it.

Nuclear Obliteration? Because it's slightly easier to spell.

#753 2 years ago

What will cost less - TNA or Star Wars Pro? That's the deciding factor for me.

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#855 2 years ago

So any speculation to the ending of the game Scott spoke about on the Spooky podcast? He said something you wouldn't expect.

My prediction is an epic light show, and then the game locks up and drains your ball... game over. Because isn't the story that in order to save the world you have to sacrifice yourself? Sad ending... empire strike back style.

#1114 2 years ago

I didn't understand the part of the interview where Scott said there would be one version of the backglass with the scores and one without (in case they needed to cost out the score displays). He later said the scores would be lined up below the backglass. So you wouldn't really need another version, right?

#1145 2 years ago

I've seen a number of posts with people wanting Scott's name on the pin. Am I missing something? I love Trudeau and Oursler but I don't need their names plastered on the backglass. Next level fanboy stuff going on here.

#1148 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinballlew:

It was said under the context of getting around not changing the original name of Total Annihilation to Total Nuclear Annihilation. It was suggested to call it Scott Danesi's Total Annihilation.

Ah, that one makes sense.

2 months later
#1718 2 years ago

Alright, someone buy my GB so I can buy this. I'm sold.

#1750 2 years ago

Not to get too into the minutiae - but I have to say my favorite part of the whole art package are these mysterious bad asses.

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#1769 2 years ago
Quoted from mandraws:

Funny, there was a flood of comments early on praising the art, then a few folks saying how much they hate it. Either way, I'll try to explain my point of view on creating the visuals.
Some artists really want the masses to love their art, some artists really only care about expressing themselves and if people like it, great. Illustrators like myself care about those things, but mostly it's how the client feels about the work. In this case, Scott was the client, and he saw every step of the process. So for those who hate the art, it really doesn't matter because you can go make your own pinball machine and choose your artist and try to be happy. Scott came to me after seeing a poster I did years ago for Zidware on Ben Heck's Zombie Adventureland. He liked the glowing nuclear style and my illustrative skill. We didn't meet in person until SFGE in June, but we talked on Skype all the time about how the project was going, which I started conceptualizing in March.
This game is a brand new original theme from a new designer and a new artist. The entire purpose of the game is to make a game LIKE games from the 80s, but as they would imagine it would be in the future. The downside to this amount of creative freedom is that everyone has an idea in their head about what it should be, and if it doesn't come out close to that, they get upset.
My philosophy on this game was to visualize the story Scott told me in the backglass, and depict mostly the machine you're battling on the playfield. The backglass is a cool illustration in my preferred style, and it is what I did first to set the tone and color scheme. It has a bunch of fun Easter eggs, and I'm very pleased with the final product. Some people compare it to Overwatch, which is purely coincidental and unintentional, but I consider it a compliment because those character designs are awesome, and people love them. Thanks for putting me in good company.
On the playfield:
I believe the worst thing you can do as an artist is spend so much time creating detail and visual flourish that it ends up making it harder to see the ball. When I play a pinball machine in a dark room and there's tons of detail and black lines on the playfield, I come away feeling like it wasn't a good game because I couldn't see the ball. I feel like it's the machine's fault I lost, not mine. You may like this art style and think it's more valuable because it's more detailed, but sometimes less is more. This game kicks your butt as a white wood with only the lights as a visual distraction so I chose to leave a lot of areas "empty." Nothing is emptier than a whitewood, and yet only a handful of people have made it to the end of the game. In addition, my task was to work within my take on the "outrun" style. Outrun is mostly black with neon lines, sunsets, grids, and things like that, which makes it extremely not user-friendly when trying to track a ball flying around at 174538 mph. From the outset, I championed the idea that the flipper areas should be bright and visually basic so that you don't lose track of the ball. Sure, maybe I could have had more detail everywhere else, but I don't put in detail unless it has a purpose. Unlike the games I've worked on in the past, there was a lot of pressure not to screw this up because people already loved the existing gameplay. If you're one of the people who don't agree with my decisions or think I could have done more, that's fine, but Scott doesn't seem to think that, and it's his game.

3 months later
#3936 2 years ago

So this crazy bitch is tying to blow us all up, am I right? Something needs to be done.

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#3952 2 years ago

NIB newb here. Anyone know of a distributor in New England? Or should I just give my 1K to Spooky?

#3954 2 years ago
Quoted from FatPanda:

Yes lol. you'll pay the same price no matter who you go with. If it's local, you'll pay state sales tax.

Ok thanks.

#3958 2 years ago
Quoted from KingPinGames:

Technically pinballstar is your closest distributor (he is in pa). Like others have said, it's the same price not matter where you get it. You will get the same great game and the same great service no matter what.

Thanks. I went straight to spooky. Can’t wait to see what number I get!

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#3961 2 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

What number are we up to now?? 275??????

I think they were just shy of 300.

1 week later
#4015 2 years ago

Decals or blades... decals or blades

#4023 2 years ago

Can I pay in full now? I don’t trust myself with this 5k laying around lol.

#4029 2 years ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

Gosh, I’m ready for my TNA. Number 174 seems so far away.

Trade ya

#4050 2 years ago

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“This one passes the smell test.”

Thanks for the pictures!

#4056 2 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

Do we need a Cliffy for the scoop or are they pre-installed?

Mantis style cliffy preinstalled from what I know.

#4079 2 years ago

Thought this bit of documentation was humorous. Are people still doing this? They better not!

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#4083 2 years ago
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:

HAHA I just wanted to see if anyone was actually reading my docs.

I’m obsessing over all things TNA while I wait for my game. Thought it was interesting that even in your first TNA blog post from 2015 you had a pretty good idea of what you wanted to achieve.

#4125 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinzzz:

So extras only require a week lead time?

I feel kinda bad about sending my shaker months early I was excited

#4156 2 years ago
Quoted from Flake:

Yay!!!! It has been so hard to actually focus at work this afternoon.

Aww, 6 days old. So cute at that age!

#4162 2 years ago
Quoted from adamross:

The newest member of the family, #32. Butter cabinet makes me want to eat the damn thing. Hi Congrats to Spooky, you’ve got a hit on your hands.

Fitting next to the popcorn machine. Extra butter please!

1 week later
#4215 2 years ago
Quoted from bangerjay:

I’d still like to see a co-op mode where a team builds up reactors and another tries to destroy them
More a gremlin type thing not cooperative

Neat idea! Like choosing Team Empire or Team Rebellion.

#4224 2 years ago

Need more factory or on location porn!

#4233 2 years ago
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:

How about code porn? I am working on 1.0.7 right now on my vacation day from work.

Quoted from Whysnow:

Everytime i come in tomthe bar, it is thumping along.

Quoted from adamross:

Mmmmm... butter.

Thanks! Those are day brighteners.

#4237 2 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

How can we get some games to the North East ASAP??? You are missing out on orders because no one can play it out here! Let’s move Rascal up in production, he promised to throw an official TNA North East launch party when he gets his game! He has memory loss so he might have forgotten that he signed up to.

#225 engraved in my brain. I can’t wait for some 4 player games! If I had a location to put it in near my work I would put it in route.

1 week later
#4311 2 years ago

Interested in what people’s experiences have been like with the shipping companies.

Newb questions: Do they call to figure out what might be a good time for you or is it your responsibility to be home on their schedule? Do they come right inside with it or just get it to the driveway?

1 week later
#4435 2 years ago
Quoted from SpookyCharlie:

And they will be as much as possible.
We aren't selling games out the back door to vendors, we aren't letting game #100 go before game #50 because we like somebody better, we aren't doing ANYTHING shady.
If we fill all the home orders first, operators get pissed. If we don't get games to operators, those who want to play on location (many of which are potential buyers) get pissed. If we don't get games to shows that are counting on them for attendees to play... EVERYONE AT THAT SHOW gets pissed. If we send a dozen games to Australia... doesn't make it even possible to ship them 1 at a time in order. They MUST go in a container all at once or the shipping costs go through the roof.
And this is just scratching the surface of what we deal with on a daily basis.
Doing our best. Never going to be a perfect system for any of this.

Someone key this so poor Charlie doesn’t have to repeat it every couple of pages lol.

#4500 2 years ago
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:

Hey Everyone,
By popular demand, I just posted the digital FLAC files for the full TNA album on my site. The album will be released for free on all the streaming platforms on Friday January 26th. More info here:

Scott, kinda off topic but what are some of your musical influences and people you follow?

#4582 2 years ago
Quoted from Mr68:

The impatient inner child took control today and I drove the 35 miles to Mutiny Information Cafe in Denver. Small pinball lineup but what a great, eclectic place with a comfortable vibe.
No need for me to repeat what has already been said about TNA but I will add this. The artwork looks much better in person than I suspected and the old style legs fit so I won't be replacing them with chrome after all.
Ton's of random and fast action and there is a lot more to do than a superficial glance of the layout would suggest. It's probably already been mentioned but some very clever code of what I saw. Playability and re-playability are words of the day as I kept digging for quarters. (go for it grammar freaks)
Many thanks to Mutiny Information Cafe for making the game available. I beat you guys out of 50 cents when I matched for a free game.

Wow, what a great place! TNA and
A MB! The owners have great tastes!

#4591 2 years ago

Spent the night working on one of my games and watching Owlnonymous and crew play TNA. Have a better feel for the rules now and I’m more excited then ever to get my game! It’s cool how Scott always pops into streams to get real world feedback and potential bug reports.

1 week later
#4736 1 year ago

Anyone hear all of the nice comments Heighway’s Dave Sanders made about Scott? Sounded like he was recruiting. Guess they would need the help.

2 weeks later
#4955 1 year ago
Quoted from Owlnonymous:

Do you have a link for this?

Are you gonna do a stream?

2 weeks later
#5130 1 year ago

Butter cabinet would make me too nervous. I need to be able to bang my game into my other games and get some lovely battle scars.

#5135 1 year ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Kewl story bro!

Aww, you’re sweet!

Metallica! Devil horns! Camel unfiltered!

#5160 1 year ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

Just played TNA for the first time. Ab-so-lute-ly loved it! Got 2 reactors down on my first game (thanks to the hours of whitewood and production video viewing) and felt like a super hero.
Then Bowen walks in and gets 7 reactors in 2 balls, and then drains with one shot on the 9th reactor on ball 3.
Really grounds me when I thinking I’m ‘that good’ at pinball.

Is it on location in New England? I’ll play you next time you go

#5203 1 year ago

Good luck this weekend Spooky! Don’t forget about us when Alice blows up.

#5205 1 year ago
Quoted from riggy469:

New phone, who dis?

?? It’s me

#5216 1 year ago
Quoted from riggy469:

At this rate hopefully I’ll see #150 around the end of April

Trade you for my spot if you need more time to think about it lol

Do TNA owners get special treatment for Alice purchase?

#5218 1 year ago
Quoted from riggy469:

I believe they said that past Spooky customers will get preference.

Nice... it’s either Alice or Maiden.

#5230 1 year ago
Quoted from davijc02:

My account for my next pin purchase is growing at a nice clip and I keep fighting back the urges to call KT and throw down the deposit on this.

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#5256 1 year ago
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:

OK OK, here is how it works...
There are 2 co op modes. "Co Op Mode" and "Team Vs. Mode".
The first thing you do to activate these modes is press and hold the start button when adding player 1. This will start the standard co op mode and will flash it up on the LCD. This mode is everyone vs the machine. If you want to do team vs mode, you press and hold the start button again until the screen says Team Vs. Mode. Then you must add all 4 players. This mode links players 1 and 3 together and 2 and 4 together. If you launch the ball without 4 players added to the game, it will default back to standard co op mode. You can also toggle between the 2 modes before starting the game by pressing and holding the start button before you launch the first ball.
Hope that makes sense.

Makes perfect sense and is awesome. Great work!

Not that I think it needs more modes but if you did add more you could probably switch to the secret game select menu screen brought up by holding the start button. Use the flippers to move selection up and down, press start to select.

“Game Selection: Choose a mode”
1. CoOp Mode
2. Team Versus Mode
3. Lionman Mode
4. Be the bad guys
5. Cancel... Start a Normal Game

Not really much different from how you’re doing it... but just had them all on one screen.

(And again, it’s fine the way it is)

#5371 1 year ago
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:

Every machine is for sale if you throw enough money at it. Heck, if you threw enough money at me, I would sell my prototype and whitewood. If you want to the game quickly, you can put out a WTB ad and see if anyone wants to sell.

Owning the prototype would be awesome! Do you update it to run new code? Is there still code for star rollovers?

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#5383 1 year ago
Quoted from cooked71:

Spooky should release a Queue Jumper Edition. Plus $1000 and you’re on the next run.

Andrew? You’re back?

#5448 1 year ago

Anyone have inside backbox pics? Just curious.

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#5495 1 year ago

Any waiters sent more than the 1000 deposit? I’m getting nervous sitting on all this money. Don’t trust myself to not buy a Maiden lol. Or maybe I’ll buy a Maiden and save hard til my TNA is ready.

#5498 1 year ago
Quoted from OnTheSnap:

Lol... I will hold it for you.
I’m watching my TNA tracking as it departs Chicago. On its long journey to the west coast.


KT is gonna send me an invoice to hold some more money for me.

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#5631 1 year ago

Only a hundred more to go!

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#5706 1 year ago

Who’s gonna get 420 on 4/20?

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#5916 1 year ago

Hypothetically... what’s the protocol if you to discover the cabinet has a huge hole from a forklift or something? Attempt to refuse shipment? Accept the shipment and document all the damage to alert Spooky?

#6011 1 year ago

Nice place! I could get so much more house if I didn’t live in the northeast.

#6013 1 year ago
Quoted from frankmac:

rascal_h I think I bought your Foxy Lady a few years back?

Yep! Want to sell it back? Haha.

Think I’m going to ask for another invoice to finish paying for my TNA... just do it feels closer.

#6082 1 year ago
Quoted from FatPanda:

got my final invoice for 163 today!!

Final invoice paid for 225 paid!

Don’t get too excited... I requested it lol. Just have to pay off some upgrades and shipping now.

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#6211 1 year ago

Sorta related question... are TNA playfields hinged like a Williams or flopsie wopsie (I think that’s the official term).

#6215 1 year ago
Quoted from frankmac:

Slides on rails. Feel like a newer Stern . Not bad.

Ok thanks

#6228 1 year ago

Congrats! Are we supposed to tip these guys?

2 weeks later
#6306 1 year ago

Broken plastic out of the box... that’s a bummer. Congrats on getting your game...hope it all gets fixed up easily enough.

2 weeks later
#6396 1 year ago

Was told an estimate of 3-4 weeks for #225 to be on the line. Excited! Summertime TNA... time to stock up on beers!

#6429 1 year ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

As far I know it is just the number of pop hits, mine now has my initials (don't know the number at the moment I'm on vacation.. miss TNA

I love that there’s a pop champ record. I think pinball has barely scratched the surface as far as implementing achievements like you would see on an XBox game... or like here on Pinside.

#6431 1 year ago
Quoted from jwilson:

Get a GC on an Iron Maiden and sit and watch it list off achievements for five minutes!

Guess we have scratched the surface. Haven’t seen that yet! I’ll have to check it out.

1 week later
#6474 1 year ago

Trying to send some Meltdown mirrors to Benton but I can’t get into Pinball Life. Reset password never sends me an email. I’ve checked bulk and junk folders. Any ideas?

#6478 1 year ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

Did you check your spam folder? Otherwise just call or email Terry. Phone number and email address are on the contact us page.

Emailed pinball life and they had my password reset in minutes. Thanks. Mirrors ordered!

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#6549 1 year ago
Quoted from DJNOEL30:

I went straight through Spooky..

I’m 225 and haven’t heard. But 223 was on the line this week. So I’m guessing within days?

Trying to not bug them as much haha.

#6553 1 year ago

Got the email! #225 is on the line and done in the next week or so!

#6573 1 year ago

Anyone know how wide it is in the box?

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#6612 1 year ago
Quoted from DJNOEL30:

I feel like a 6 year old losing his mind waiting to tear open those gifts!!! #230 on the way!
[quoted image]

How long from paying final invoice until hearing from R+L? Still waiting for the call.

#6614 1 year ago
Quoted from DJNOEL30:

Got my email on 8/3 that it was on the line. I got an appointment email from R&L this morning for a delivery between 12 and 4 tomorrow. So from notification to delivery looks like 12 days for me.

Ok thanks. Got my email on 8/2. Should be soon I guess.

#6649 1 year ago

Getting closer!

Wonder if they’d just let me pick it up at the destination terminal.

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#6658 1 year ago

sold my nib... should I get back in line? Lol

#6684 1 year ago
Quoted from ryan1234:

Really none of my business... but...
You have made many, many, many post stating how excited you are to be getting this pin and how great it is...
Then to sell it the very second you got it...
Were all those posts made just to pump up your sale?

I drove 30 mins to pick it up at the destination hub, drove it 45 mins to his house, helped him unload it, moved it down a flight of stairs, set it up... for less than $150.

You’re right though... really none of your business.

1 month later
#7016 1 year ago
Quoted from estrader:

You should see if the 16 buck red led lights on Amazon fit high speed too. Looks much better in tna. There is a link in one of the tna threads for them. If you can’t find it pm me. You get a pair for the 16 bucks.

I put one of those in but it didn’t work. Couldn’t figure out why

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#7056 1 year ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Play the game and all these noises curiously disappear ...

Maybe unrelated but I got to reactor 5 tonight and that song is awesome.

5 months later
#7230 8 months ago

I could be on drugs but I could swear I was just awarded “50,000 Points” from the Mystery award and my score went from 500k to 515k.

I got gypped 35k!

#7232 8 months ago
Quoted from Grizlyrig:

Lol, don't expect that machine to help you. Mine hates me. Been stuck trying to get past 6th reactor for a while now. Absolutely getting my monies worth tho.

Me too! Best game ever!

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