Total Nuclear Annihilation
Spooky Pinball, 2017If Spooky Pinball were to build this machine,would you be in on it. After watching the Youtube videos of it being played,I am really hoping we can show the interest needed for Spooky to work it out financially to be built at a price we can all afford. Hoping this poll helps.
-Mike
Quoted from drtone:Can you put some links to the videos you watched? It would be helpful to have it in the post.
www.scottdanesi.com
I think Spooky could get 300 preorders pretty quickly. I'd be in on one fore sure. I've played it and it's a different experience and super fun.
Quoted from TKDalumni:If they can price it at, or under, a Stern pro, then I would seriously consider.
That's where I'm at as well. If Spooky can simply meet the Pro price, I'm in. The deadflip stuff I saw was super impressive. Looks fun and fast.
Quoted from Kneissl:Can anyone do a sub 5k game besides stern??
Nope.
You can get your BOM under 5k. But honestly factoring in programming, design and engineering work, as well credit card processing fees and other small costs that add up, a smaller run game priced under 6k game is a money losing venture.
Then when having your game manufactured by an outside company there is also the cost of having the game assembled and handled. Each game assembled could easily start at $700-$800 each. So add that in also.
Stern can do it because they have the infrastructure in place and can spread these costs across many titles and get it all running optimally. Spooky is doing it too, just doesn't have the economies of scale that Stern does. Yet.
Most importantly, in my opinion, is to make sure the game is priced in a way that makes the entire effort worth doing. The market always wants the lowest price possible, but if it is priced so low that the parties involved "break even" at best in the end, then there is little incentive to do it again.
While cool new game designs are the most exciting part for many, I find a solid business plan and responsible company making the games to be just as, if not more, exciting. But I am small biz guy outside of pinball, so my tastes may be skewed. 
I love TA. Scott did a killer job. Definitely one of my favorite games played at Expo last year. The sound was so impressive. Crunch the numbers and figure out how to get this game into the hands of its biggest fans!
Aaron
FAST Pinball
Quoted from APB_Enterprises:Here are some links
Thank you for posting those,they are indeed the videos I watched.
-Mike
Quoted from Grizlyrig:If Spooky Pinball were to build this machine,would you be in on it. After watching the Youtube videos of it being played,I am really hoping we can show the interest needed for Spooky to work it out financially to be built at a price we can all afford. Hoping this poll helps.
-Mike
With no ramps and toys, where's the $4695 option ? It looks fun for sure but let's be real on the pricing.
Quoted from mnpinball:With no ramps and toys, where's the $4695 option ? It looks fun for sure but let's be real on the pricing.
Charlie brought up a good point on the videos. He really wanted to know if people would buy a single level game. His point was this...if he makes a ramp on a game they cost him 50-100 each, but if he doesn't include a ramp people want to pay $1000 less for the game. He goes on to say that Total Annihilation under the playfield has a lot going on parts wise.
I think it's a great title and could be a winner for a new route operator and as an affordable home collector option. So it needs to be priced right and count on the large number of sales to make profit while it keeps the line busy much longer. This small volume approach seems weird IMO.
Is that Jay really gonna be the model on the flyer?
Looks very addictive.
Needs a great art package and someone cool doing the call outs.
Would be tempted if final version was as good as it potentially could be.
I think they could sell a few hundred pretty easy. Maybe tough to break 1000. The game looks really fun.
It looks fun and tough to me and I would be a buyer most likely. I would definitely pay 6k for this over The Jetsons even though that has a ramp and great artwork.
I'd put preorder money down on TA at Stern Pro pricing if it's released by Spooky. Any other company and I'd hold my cash until they were shipping.
The game looks incredible and there isn't a company on the planet better at getting games out the door than Spooky. Definitely a team I'd support with my wallet.
I love the retro feel of this game! Count me in. Do a run of 500 @ $6000 a piece. The art package will be important in getting people to pay the $6000. This would easily sell out.
Game looks so awesome! Did you get the license or are we gonna Kulek this thing? Will you have art and music from the game?
My favorite strategy was to invest all resources into being the first to have nukes... then bombs away!
What is the grid of lights between the slings for?
I dig the game. I actually would like the artwork, or lack there of, just like it is.
Game looks fantastic! Ramps and toys dont make a pinball good. A good ruleset and layout, good sound package and callouts, thats what makes a pinball fun, enjoyable, and lasting. I love an original theme, so not having to license is a huge cost saver. That upper playfield looks like it can be wild and the light show during multiball look great. I love the "question mark" light show pattern. Nail down a futuristic android art package and theme and you've got a winner.
Quoted from gliebig:What is the grid of lights between the slings for?
Bonus. Oldschool style.
Quoted from Whysnow:limit it to 250 and I bet it sells for 7k easy.
I'm in
Why limit it?
Watching the Dead Flip vid on Youtube gives a clear view of the layout and light show. Looks amazing! One pop bumper that cause such an awesome effect!
Beware the man in green...
Quoted from lordloss:Why limit it?
In case you have not noticed, the game looks expensive to make.
In order to generate sales, a good method is to limit production numbers. This allows you to increase the sales price as games then also have an immediate collectibility factor.
No reason to limit a game like this. Sell as many as people will buy within whatever period works for manufacturing.
Quoted from Leascippi:This should be the backglass
Why? It has nothing to do with the game that happens to share the same name.
Think "1980's Apocalypse".
This is an original game not related in any way shape or form to that computer game.
Quoted from Leascippi:This should be the backglass
Quoted from jwilson:Why? It has nothing to do with the game that happens to share the same name.
Think "1980's Apocalypse".
Oh, so why does it use the name of a popular video game franchise? I guess it's fine if it never goes into production
Quoted from Leascippi:Oh, so why does it use the name of a popular video game franchise?
So popular no one has heard of it but you?
Also it's a common phrase. No trademark.
Quoted from jwilson:So popular no one has heard of it but you?
Also it's a common phrase. No trademark.
Are you sure?
http://www.trademarkia.com/total-annihilation-75132605.html
Quoted from jwilson:So popular no one has heard of it but you?
Also it's a common phrase. No trademark.
Oh yeah, and this...
https://www.google.com/amp/www.4-traders.com/amp/news/Trademark-Application-for-TOTAL-ANNIHILATION-Filed-by-Atari--23935944/
Well it's good that this is an "amusement device" and not a "computer game". I don't think there's any worries here.
Quoted from lordloss:Sell as a Kit?
The cabinet, art and whatnot aren't the most expensive part, so a kit doesn't really save you much. Also it has a custom sized screen.
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I'll need a second job (but that means less time for pinball) 
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