I vote Tommy I feel like there is more to do in the game and it has better and more toys like the blinder, mirror, and the plane.
I like both pins.
FT has a much better flow to it. I like the theme and the layout. It's a good family pin as well. And, it's got that WIlliams build quality.
Tommy has some cool toys, as mentioned above. It has the standard DE modes. As I do love The Who, I don't really like that the actual songs sung by them are not in the pin, although I think there is a way to incorporate them. A bit clunky.
FT for the small win.
Owned both multiple times...
Fish Tales is a much better game. Just better layout, more challenging long term, faster game play. Smoother playing.
I wish Tommy were better as I am a Who fan and love the theme and art on it.
Tommy is way better. Fish Tales is fun and a good game, but The Who music, the modes, the layout are just better. I've have them both and Tommy is here to stay.
Quoted from luvthatapex2:... but The Who music....
... But the NOT Who music is more the issue
Tommy is pretty good but B/W games like FT just have that magic. Everything comes together with the theme, music, art, and gameplay. You even have that awesome fish topper that flaps its tail. FT is kinda simplistic with the rules and can be brutal but keeps you coming back. Fun to play Tommy on location or at shows but I would love to own FT.
Quoted from TheLaw:... But the NOT Who music is more the issue
Agreed but I installed a pinsound board, added this backglass and now I have a great "WHO" pin.
I like FT but the music is tough.
Quoted from gjm:Agreed but I installed a pinsound board, added this backglass and now I have a great "WHO" pin.
I love FT as well.
Not to derail this thread, but what does it cost to upgrade to The Who songs? You mentioned a pinsound board. Can you reference costs? Curious
My buddy had a really nice fish tales for about a year.
Not only did I hate it, so did he.
That double ramp right in the center of the playfield pretty much ruins the view on the entire machine.
He had a lot of trouble getting rid of it too.
If you buy a fish tales, don't pay any more than $2700
I'd file fish tales as one of the most over rated games.
I will PM you so not to "go off the rails" with the OP's thread.
Quoted from Blackbeard:Not to derail this thread, but what does it cost to upgrade to The Who songs? You mentioned a pinsound board. Can you reference costs? Curious
I will PM you so not to "go off the rails" with the OP's thread.
Had both, would buy a tommy again with pinsound board ($350). Have no interest in owning another fishtales.
Quoted from Blackbeard:Not to derail this thread, but what does it cost to upgrade to The Who songs? You mentioned a pinsound board. Can you reference costs? Curious
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pinsound+pinball
This link might help. It can also help you with other questions you have in the future.
Tommy: great lay-out, very good multiball, good modes.
Fishtales: lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts, lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts,lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts,lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts,lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts,lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts,lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts,lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts,lock balls, 3 jackpots, super jackopts...
Tommy is a much harder and deeper game. I owned both, and would probably own both again, but Tommy is just a much better game overall to me. Fish Tales is pretty much a one more time kind of game that is pretty fun for a while but if you had a small collection would get old pretty quick I think. Tommy is a challenging game for a long time, rare to make the wizard mode, and has a lot of the special magic that B/W games have (like being 2 million short of the replay and the game will give you a 2 million Lyman bonus to make it, lol).
Ooooh .....difficult choice as I adore both games. I'm going Tommy purely on sentimental/personal reasons. Though I totally get why some people would prefer FT.
Tommy was my first pin 16 years ago, I loved it on location back in 1994 and had to have one. It's a very different feeling game to FT - it's mode based, think TAF rules. A dialed in one plays so lovely. It has several fantastic multiballs and of course the killer blinders toy. The recent Chad code rewrite is a MUST - the blinders are utilised more in game now, some serious rule changes to some modes, just all round polish on bugs, sounds, lighting etc
I love FT. Absolutely killer fun game. Classic. Saying that I have had 2 and sold 2. So I do get tired of it in a smallish lineup. The good news is there are plenty more Fish (Tales) in the sea so not hard to find another.
Availability could be the factor for you in this .... decent Tommy far harder to come by. So maybe go Tommy, lot easier to pick up a FT down the road.
Quoted from gjm:Agreed but I installed a pinsound board, added this backglass and now I have a great "WHO" pin.
I like FT but the music is tough.
Damn I *love* that backglass I wish someone could make these available as a translite. Someone somehow make it happen !
Quoted from ChadH:For those who enjoy Tommy... make sure you pop this in there if you haven't already...
http://www.pinballcode.com/tommy5
Chad I have been playing the heck out of Tommy again recently. You did a great job on that code man .... a great job. Smash The Mirror mode is now epic !
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