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TOM Trunk Error - Leon's Fix. NOW AVAILABLE, SEE POST #225

By EvanDickson

8 years ago


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Post #128 Schematics Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #131 Prototype Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #133 Animated installation guide for prototype Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #145 Prototype photos & video Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #146 Trunk opto board prototype Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #210 PCB layouts Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #225 Opto board replacements, pricing, and shipping info Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #242 Opto Board PCBs Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #359 Photos of populated boards Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)

Post #372 Photo of installed board Posted by german-pinball (8 years ago)


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#33 8 years ago

Hold on a sec.
Am I correct that this PCB is connected to the exit of the BI-DIRECTIONAL motor control PCB A-16120 ?
If so, then I would suggest not to install D1, the L6203 would not like that.

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#42 8 years ago

If Leon's modification worked without a diode, then the L6203 is likely protected against voltage spike.
In the L6203 datasheet there are 2 diodes per channel so it looks like it won't need external diodes.
Maybe someone with knowledge about electronic components can give a more decisive answer.

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#50 8 years ago

I think you have to experiment with this motor-control board.
This ic has the (used) ability to stop the motor instantly like a brake when both inputs are 'high'.
I don't know if this still works when external diodes are implemented but if it does, it indeed doesn't hurt.

#59 8 years ago

If this only happens when trunk is rotating clockwise, then this would be a solution for the diodes as well.
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Does this happen in all software versions ?

#88 8 years ago
Quoted from zaza:

BI-DIRECTIONAL motor control

#92 8 years ago

I made a quick test setup to see if the diodes have any negative effect on the motor "brake" and they didn't.
So it is safe to use the flyback diodes.

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The only thing I would change is the white text on the PCB at J2(-N) saying "20 Volt" and "GND" because:
1st - it is 12Volt and
2nd - the polarity changes when when motor is driven CCW or CW
so to avoid confusion call it something like motor a' and b'
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#103 8 years ago
Quoted from german-pinball:

The manual is very misleading here:

Yes, the wire colors assume it is 20V + GND but it is motor drive as we know

Quoted from german-pinball:

I would prefer, to connect them as shown in post #90, but there are many ways, to connect the LEDs:

I have an unfounded preference for the "DUO LED 2 Pin" choice, maybe because the LEDs are directly on the motordrive and share one resistor.
duo led.jpgduo led.jpg

Quoted from Thor-NL:

Respect gentlemen

thanks !

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#558 7 years ago

1st you want to know if the bi-dir-motor-board is controlled by the CPU/Powerdriverboard or the the bi-board has failed.

Unplug J126 from PDBoard and check if the LED goes OFF on the LEON-board.
If the motor-activity LED stays ON, the problem is on the bi-dir-motor-board

#561 7 years ago

There is a piece of GI-wire under the motor control board. Can you verify if that doesn't make contact to the PCB

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#793 9 months ago
Quoted from gizmo33:

bulbs that light up strangely

Can you unplug the lamp from the trunk, That is the connector under playfield with Yellow and Red wire.
Does that solve it ?

#796 9 months ago

yea,

It does happen when the interruptor or opto fail, the trunk keeps rotating, damaging the harness and eventually get shorted.
That will give funny results in the lamp matrix.

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#799 9 months ago
Quoted from gizmo33:

I still have to find the origin of the problem, any idea?

It could be that the insulation of the wires is damaged in the axis of the trunk, or diode is shorted at the lamp holder.
Something like that

#802 9 months ago

That picture is correct.

inspect insulation of the wires and be sure the lamp holder doesn't touch any metal parts in the trunk.

#804 9 months ago

true.

Check that as well. The mounting to the trunk shouldn't have electrical connection to the lugs of the lamp.

#806 9 months ago

In other words, the screw that is used to mount the lampholder, should not touch the wires/lugs of the lamp

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