I'm in for one - Thank you

I'm in for one - thank you

Great idea! Count me in as well.

Here is the list:

njgsx96
DavidPinballWizz
Magicchiz
canea
lyzanxia
CraigC
MMP
bstyles
Rum-Z
EvanDickson
Kiwipinhead
DB62
Out-West
PinBallMagician
jsa (2)
rotordave
EternalLife
Bskinner46
Q-Dog

I'm in for one.

Me too. And happy pay for the Effort!

While we wait for Ingo's proto I made a quick video of the error as it appears in my game during Spirit Cards. Not sure if this error appears during other illusions, but I've never seen it on video before, so here you go. Action is at 1:25 if you don't want to listen to me babble and sorry for the crap quality video, ack.

Thanks for the video. That's exactly what mine does, constantly.

I never knew it was a known error. Hopefully this board will fix it!

rd

If this only happens when trunk is rotating clockwise, then this would be a solution for the diodes as well.
leon mod.JPG

Does this happen in all software versions ?

I'm just talking out my ass. Not sure if it's considered an error or just too much rigidity in the programming? Either way, man, is it annoying. The better you are at the game, the more automatically you lob the ball right back at the trunk, and the more likely you'll be getting the trunk disabled. Can't tell you how many great games this has ruined for me.

I suppose it's best to check everything before worrying about this, but I've been through new opto, new interruptor, and new gearbox/motor and still have this problem. So, this should be the fix we've all dreamed of...

Pff that video finally made me understand. I own a TOM as well, but I thought it was like an added bonus if you were quick enough to hit the trunk while it was rotating to start the illusion instead of hitting the hole while it was stationary. It much easier to hit the trunk sensor than the hole. I never even had that trunk error.

Wel, should I ever encounter it and if it annoys me, at least I know how to counter it. I'll slap my own board on it when the time comes.

It is kind of a good thing - a way to shortcut having to hit the ball into the trunk to start the illusion. With the new board, that option will be gone the way I understand it. But ah well, everyone complains that Theatre is too easy anyway...

I'm in for one as well.

Updated list:

njgsx96
DavidPinballWizz
Magicchiz
canea
lyzanxia

CraigC
MMP
bstyles (2x)
Rum-Z
EvanDickson

Kiwipinhead
DB62
Out-West
PinBallMagician
jsa (2x)

rotordave
EternalLife
Bskinner46
Q-Dog
kungfucop

MT45
Atomicboy

You can count me in for 4 for sure and waiting to hear back from one more local collector who has a TOM as well. Thanks again for doing this and can't wait to address this trunk error once and for all.

*edited*

count me in for 5 total please

I watched the video and realized what was happening with my TOM. Sign my up (+1) for a board.
Reynolds 531

Please add me to the list. Thanks!

It's pretty cool seeing that there's game-specific mods/fixes that can draw a lot of attention like this even on the older games... when there's a large enough issue that needs to be solved *OR* it adds to the game in some way. Nice job!

Put me down for one (1) board please.

Nice looking board etch and layout BTW.

Updated list:
njgsx96
DavidPinballWizz
Magicchiz
canea
lyzanxia
CraigC
MMP
bstyles (2x)
Rum-Z
EvanDickson
Kiwipinhead
DB62
Out-West
PinBallMagician
jsa (2x)
rotordave
EternalLife
Bskinner46
Q-Dog
kungfucop
MT458
Atomicboy
mwong168 (4x)
reynolds531
xfassa
cal50

I will show you the etched prototype board tomorrow morning.

I want one also please

Please add me to the list. Thanks!

Guess I'll take one too. Haven't noticed the problem but maybe one time but looks like I should jump on board.

I'm in for one.

Thanks.

Im in for 2 boards!

I'll take one too.

I would like one, too!

Count me in. Thanks for the heads up Cal50

german-pinball can you please update me for 6 pieces please

I'd love to be added to this list as well.
Put me down for one.
Brilliant fix guys!

Please change my order from 1 to 2 of these!!! THANKS!
DB62

Please put me down for 1 complete board too thank you.

This is the always UP-TO-DATE List:

njgsx96 (*)
Magicchiz (*)
canea (*)
lyzanxia (*)
CraigC (*)
MMP
bstyles (2x) (*)
Rum-Z (*)
EvanDickson (*)
Kiwipinhead
DB62 (*)
Out-West (*)
PinBallMagician (*)
jsa (2x) (*)
rotordave (*)
EternalLife (*)
Bskinner46 (*)
Q-Dog (*)
kungfucop (*)
MT458
Atomicboy (*)
mwong168 (6x) (*)
reynolds531
xfassa
cal50 (*)
markmon
TowMater
gliebig (*)
Mank (*)
Eddie (2x) (*)
lyonsden (*)
schonb25 (*)
Skypilot (*)
Ranhorton (*)
mjfisher (*)
RVH
mamemaster
kmoore88
Methos
Gotpins (*)
chriskd (*)
Latinfantom
wimpinball (5x)
MSN22
RobertWinter (*)
Mhulsebu (*)
not4tilts (*)
rcarlson (4x) (*)
2manypins
DallasPinball (*)
Trooper11040
Spencer
angus
blueman01 (2x) (*)
Radius118 (*)
PittPin (*)
flugs (*)
pinballinreno (*)
MnHotRod (*)
larrys1 (*)
Starwriter (*) (*)
Sijcolo (*)
macci (*)
dgarrett (*)
jeppepupu (*)
tonycip (*)
Pinballflare (*)
JoeGrenuk (*)
epthegeek (*)
msj2222 (*)
FreeBee (*)
littlecammi (*)
Trifle (*)
ikaruga007 (*)
GreenMachine19 (*)
winslow (*)
gordonbowar (*)(*)
nightsearcher (*)
Chemixtry (*)
johnbtcb (*)
Jvspin (*)
jk (*)
hedghog (*)
oscarspa (*)
RandomKG (*)
orbian (*) (*)
dMode (*)
Wisconsinpinball
kse001 (*)
Beeble (*)
CHighfill (*)
Malibu-SS (*)
tomterlec (*)
dudah (*)
bhwolf (*)
MikeHogue (*)
pinfrank76 (*)
flashman (*)
okletsgo (*)
burtcam (*)
JosiahCox
PinballHelp (*)
mtdouble (*)
marcelmagic (*)
Bantam (*)
ibuypinballs (*)
nickbuol (*)
Bramvk (*)
Skarv (*)
....
krunch (*)
meSz (*)
ski1game2 (*)
aruaKcalb (*)
roc-noc (*)
...
Genetic2000 (*)
tomtest (*)
volkdrive (*)
Mtg381 (*)
mdclips (*)
...
grs57f (*)
SFEastBayDave (*)
caylegeorge (*)
nd4spd (*)
sirlonzelot (*)
...
Tensikka (*)
NoMonkey (*)
nibre (*)
JOETECH (*)
indypinhead (*)
...
pinjunky (*)
Goalie (*)

ALL SHIPPED

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jyeakley (*)

You know, you can just add the list to the first post and update it there instead on a new post each time

I got a feeling you are going to at least double the current amount soon.

Once you get the proto made, Ingo, probably should start a new thread and reserve a couple spaces on it. The title on this one might be a little confusing and no doubt more people would be interested if they knew they could be signing up to buy a board.

Add me on the list please, don't wanna be left out.

Here is the etched prototype-pcb.

Tomorrow I will cut the outlines and drill the holes, in 2 days, the parts should arrive and the the proto goes to canea.

Here we go:

Proto PCB 1-min.JPG

Proto PCB 2-min.JPG

proto xxx.JPG

As you can see, on this proto I have forseen a few jumpers, so canea can do his tests with the layout of Leon and additionally switch the LEDs individually and switch the flyback diodes.

Tom is my only keeper....i want one too please!

@zaza:

I have routed the prototype like this.

leon TOM diodes.JPG

Any reservations? If yes, please tell me why.

@all:

Here is HOW IT WORKS - pretty simple, isn´t it?

Motor off.JPG

Motor on.JPG

I made a quick test setup to see if the diodes have any negative effect on the motor "brake" and they didn't.
So it is safe to use the flyback diodes.

test 123.jpg

The only thing I would change is the white text on the PCB at J2(-N) saying "20 Volt" and "GND" because:
1st - it is 12Volt and
2nd - the polarity changes when when motor is driven CCW or CW
so to avoid confusion call it something like motor a' and b'
motor a + b.JPG
label1.jpg

Thanks for all this initiative and work guys, this is a great, well needed fix.

Who do we contact to nominate German-Pinball for the Nobel Prize in electrical engineering?

Me too: kmoore88

Thanks!

Please add me to the list. Great idea!

Here is the man, who alone has to get all honor - LEON from belgium (RIP) - the best pinball-expert ever and one of the nicest persons I ever knew.

http://www.flippers.be/leon_borre.html

I salute you German-Pinball as so few ever give credit to anyone anymore.

@zaza:
Many thanks for the hints and your really really nice grafics.

Indeed, there is no 20V, but 12VDC (exact 12,38VDC - measured by canea). The manual is very misleading here:

TOM no 20VDC.JPG

I will change the silkscreen on the final board to "cw" and "ccw".

I think, Leon himself was als misleaded here a bit, because he uses a 24V relay, imho a 12V relay would be sufficient in this application.

By the way - the status LEDs are a bit playing and a gimmick to the board. I would prefer, to connect them as shown in post #90, but there are many ways, to connect the LEDs:

TOM LEDs.JPG

Any suggestion from your side??

I'll take one! Add me to the list please!