why the hell would someone make a bunch of money, just to piss it away on something as useless like invisiglass? Might as well wipe your ass with it if that's the case.

The guys who want a lower number and pay extra to do so, make me laugh hardcore. With pinball, you don't want to first ones out of the line. Think about it. What games are going to have all the problems and defects? The first ones. It isn't until way later they realize certain materials and designs are flawed and fix them. So you get number 1. Great, now you have a ton of crap wrong that someone that waited until the end or even a run or 2 later, they fixed. Some of those issues are major and cannot be fixed such as cloudy windows. Many of you are new and come into this hobby trying to collect it like comics or coins. Doesn't work that way in this world. This is the opposite of any other collecting market out there. Older doesn't mean more valuable. Rarer doesn't mean more value, and early means more problems. Fun factor doesn't always come into play as hype overpowers fun many times.

Oh I know. that's why I laugh at the ones that pay extra for a low number. first off the line, means the one with the most problems.

if they pass on the premium because they didn't get the LE, then they didn't buy the LE to play it and have it. The bought it to hang on to it hoping to flip it for mass cash later. It's the tell tale sign. If your buying to hang onto for 3 or 4 years down the road. If the game is good, when they stop making it, all the models will go up in value. all good games do. But you have to be in for the long haul.

It's not the best. It's just a little different but plays the same as the premium. You think the art on the LE is built stronger and holds up better? Nope. Think the siderails powercoat is more durable than the premiums? Nope. It's not built even 1% better than the premium. If you want the game, and you want to play it, and you like the toys the premium has to offer over the pro, it's not going to make a whole lot of difference if you like the game, what art is on the cabinet and translite. Plus you save yourself an extra $1000 or whatever it is. I have AC/DC premium, and plays just like LTBR and BIB, do I give a shit if the cabinet artwork is different? Not at all. Plays the same, actually better because I don't have the early run problems the LE's had with windows and what not.

Now if I bought it with the intention to sell it soon, sure I wish it was BIB, but i'm glad it's not, because it would be worth so damn much, i'd rather not have that much cash sitting around in a game. I'd sell it and rebuy a premium anyway.

unfortunately this is far to true for this forum. They try to outbling each other and have every new title to impress each other. If you added mods before. It was one or two in good taste. Everything wasn't LED'd out and strap every piece of crap you could to a game. Toppers were an afterthought and most through toppers are ugly in the first place. I've never seen so many care about much that doesn't matter. Pinball discussion used to be about bulletproofing your game. Troubleshooting and making the game play better and not break down as easy. Taking a rough game and bringing it back to life.

the problem here I think is camp B is so active. Camp A talk sinks to the bottom so fast, nobody sees it except the poster. and that's 1% of the talk around here.

yes the Tron mod is excellent and tastefully done. One of the better ones out there.