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To Save a Sorcerer or How to spend $3,000 on a $1,200 machine COMPLETE

By uncivil_engineer

5 years ago


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#101 4 years ago
Quoted from mark532011:

That’s very cool. So you are using the vinyl as-is rather than using it as a paint mask?

That is correct. I’m using oracal 651 vinyl.

#102 4 years ago

So I cleaned up and repainted the light board yesterday... It turned out pretty good.

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I typically do not replace the light sockets on the backboard unless they are really bad. In this case I just used a dremel tool to clean them out. I then replaced all the GI with LEDs. The GI circuits always pull the most amperage and produce the most heat, so I like to reduce the load on the circuit (and thus the heat it produces) by installing LEDs. I did not put LEDs in the light matrix circuits because it relies alot on fading when doing light shows.
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I think this one is just about done. I may do one more update with pictures of the final product early next week.

#103 4 years ago

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing your work.

#104 4 years ago

Fantastic job Alan!

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#105 4 years ago
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:

So there it is, the apron is done...

Great job! Next apron I need to re-do I may steal your method of using vinyl as is rather than as a stencil. GENIUS!
Would you be willing to share your Cameo apron files?
Thank you for sharing this process.

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#106 4 years ago

If the cost is worth it to you, it's worth it, I suppose.

#107 4 years ago

Regardless of what is being worked on, seeing anyone so thoroughly invested in anything (let along pinball, something I'm a huge fan of) is truly wonderful. Thank you so much for sharing this. Your Sorcerer looks absolutely amazing.

I just finished going through all of the comments and images and for some reason, this reminds me of a master smith forging legendary armor or weapons and being allowed to watch it happen.

Or maybe I read too many sci-fi/fantasy novels Thanks again

#108 4 years ago
Quoted from swanng:

If the cost is worth it to you, it's worth it, I suppose.

Not only worth it to Alan, but worth it to me too.
This machine is coming to Australia to be the jewel in my collection. My grail pin and the best one i have seen before.
I'm sure i won't see it for 6 months or so but that will make it all the more sweet when i do finally get it.

I owe Alan a debt of gratitude for taking the risk on freighting so far when it must have been much simpler to sell it locally. Thanks again mate.

#109 4 years ago

Thanks for the vote of confidence guys..

Yes, this machine will be going over the Pacific to Australia in the near future. I'm glad it will go to a collection where it will be played and appreciated.

#110 4 years ago

I’m hoping for some more detailed pictures of the finished game. Looks amazing. Once my playfield is done at cpr I will start my restoration. This thread will help me a lot.

#111 4 years ago
Quoted from Squeakman:

I’m hoping for some more detailed pictures of the finished game. Looks amazing. Once my playfield is done at cpr I will start my restoration. This thread will help me a lot.

I look forward to your thread fall ‘2020

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#112 4 years ago

Well I am closing the books on this one. I packed up Sorcerer last night and drove it down to LA to an exporter today.

Over all this was a fun restoration. It played fast and furious when it was done. If I got the chance, I’d restore another system 9 machine.

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#113 4 years ago

Thanks mate, already standing at the end of the driveway hopping from one foot to the other holding my dick. Can't wait to see the truck and if you don't mind i'll post a few closing pics as well when it gets here in a few months.

If i can ever do anything for you let me know. Might be able to ship some koalas or something.

#114 4 years ago

Awesome. Beautiful work and Congrats to the new owner.

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#115 4 years ago

Great work. Looks beautiful.

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#116 4 years ago

Just got news that the container that has this machine in it is leaving this week. Yippee, i'll see it in a few weeks

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#117 4 years ago

I received word this morning that the machine is finally in Australia, and in punkin 's possession. It seems to have made it in one piece.

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#118 4 years ago

Yes mate, the topic is complete for sure now. It was packed very carefully and it survived without a scratch that i can see. A 5 month wait but well worth it for the most beautiful object i own. I wouldn't swap it to save my Harley.

It's up next to my dining table so i can stare at it at the moment, but will go down to it's rightful place after we sort the transformer to accept 240v.

Thank you again mate, i have been given an incredible gift, the nicest thing i've ever had.

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#119 4 years ago

Damn. That’s just an awesome job. Sweet find and great work. I just picked one up myself. Enjoy it.

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#120 3 years ago
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:

So I finally have the black base coat more or less finished. So I have turned my attention to the graphics on the apron. The apron was originally painted with a two color silk screen. My original plan was to use Silhouette cutter to cut the paint mask to put down the yellow, and then to put down the red. Then it dawned on me that if I am going to use the cutter for the paint masks, why not just cut yellow and red glossy vinyl for the graphics? It would save me having to try to use a stencil to paint the very small lettering.
So the first step was to convert my stencils to cut my stencil files out in yellow and red on my Silhouette Cameo. I added some more registration marks to make lining up the two colors easier.
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Then I had to cut out the files, and remove the extra yellow and red from the sheets so I just had the graphics and registration marks left on my paper. This turned out to be harder than expected, as the small letters tended to want to pull up with the extra vinyl around them. I ruined one set of yellow vinyl, and had to recut it. I ended up putting the small lettering on the right hand side on its own sheet so I could work with it alone.
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Finally I had the red and yellow all cut out and ready to go. The vinyl came on rolls, so I put the finished cut pieces between two pieces of pinball glass overnight to get them to lay straight, and not roll up on me.
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After the vinyl is all cut, you then have to apply the transfer tape over the top of the graphics. This is what will hold everything in place while you line it up. This is best done on a flat piece of glass (like a pinball playfield glass!). So today my fish tales pulled double duty as a workbench...
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Then comes the difficult task of lining everything up and applying the first layer of vinyl... I did it a lot like to do pinball cabinet decals. I lined every thing up, and held in place with tape while I peeled back the decal backing, and then smooted everything into place.
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So the yellow went down fairly easily. I just had to be carefully removing the transfer tape so I didn't take my graphics with it.
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And yes, my Black Hole pulled duty as a work bench to day as well... The lighting was better over the Black Hole.
Red was not as easy as the yellow was to put down. I tried alighning the red graphics with my registration marks and discovered they would not line up. I think the issue was the yellow graphics my had a slight fold in them when they went down. Do I decided to split the red graphics up into three separate sheets, and apply them one at a time. I cut little reference windows in the red vinyl backing to help me get everything lined up. Here is the largest sheet ready to go down. Notice the little holes around the circle? Those are my reference holes I cut to make sure everything lined up.
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After I got the first piece piece of red vinyl down, I was pretty confident I was going to be able to get the rest of them down without issues.
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And finally, I put put the small lettering in place. The only issue I had was with the 'TM' that appears after 'Lane Change'.. Other than that, it looks pretty good. I don't think I would have been able to do as well had I tried to paint on these graphics.
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So there it is, the apron is done...

That looks awesome where did you find the files for the apron? I've got a Silhoutte and a Backout that needs a new W on it.

#121 3 years ago

Getting the machine ready for Pinfest (hopefully in Sept still) this year at Newcastle. Probably Australia's biggest pinball show and it's been accepted.

Been playing rock solid since i got it and just doing a couple of little touches now. Speaker upgrades, new shooter sleeve and rod, speaker trim being polished if i can get it done and replaced if i can't etc. Hoping to get it perfect for people to play and enjoy, they've never had a Sorcerer there i was told.
Gotta be the loudest knocker in a room full of pinnies too, like a gunshot.

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#122 2 years ago

Hey just found this thread. Your apron turned out great! What type of black paint did you use? And was it full gloss?

#123 2 years ago

Thanks for the bump. For closure, Alan's machine did go to Pinfest Newcastle (and has the medal to prove it) in November 2020, where it was enjoyed by hundreds of people over the weekend. It was a big hit and the below photo was taken when Peter Watt put a 7m+ GC score on it.

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#124 2 years ago
Quoted from punkin:

Thanks for the bump. For closure, Alan's machine did go to Pinfest Newcastle (and has the medal to prove it) in November 2020, where it was enjoyed by hundreds of people over the weekend. It was a big hit and the below photo was taken when Peter Watt put a 7m+ GC score on it.
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Wow, that machine really has gotten around.

#125 2 years ago
Quoted from Elicash:

Hey just found this thread. Your apron turned out great! What type of black paint did you use? And was it full gloss?

I used gloss black spray paint. I think it way krylon. It worked out pretty well.

#126 2 years ago

Sorry to bother, but I just got a Sorcerer shipped recently, and it was unfortunately destroyed in transit; as such, I’m moving it into a different (Firepower 2) cabinet + head and trying to rebuild, and am wondering if you might be able to show me where this ground strap from the transformer block is meant to be attached?

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#127 2 years ago

That is the ground strap that goes to the head. There should be threaded stud in the head with a wing nut on it. The loop goes over the stud, and is held down by the wing nut. Ive attached a photo showing where it attached on my sorcerer. Note: this photo was taken before I had the new cabinet built.

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#128 2 years ago
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:

That is the ground strap that goes to the head. There should be threaded stud in the head with a wing nut on it. The loop goes over the stud, and is held down by the wing nut. Ive attached a photo showing where it attached on my sorcerer. Note: this photo was taken before I had the new cabinet built.
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Awesome, thank you so much! I was wondering if it was meant to go to the head somewhere, but saw some other ground braid going up to that area, so wasn’t sure. This confirms it, and moves me forward! I really appreciate the response and pic

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