I like how clearly you answer.

I agree with rancegt. Triple thick would definitely work to secure the flaking paint on your backbox, but who knows how it would look. I think the others are right who said to either leave it alone or plan on sanding it down and repainting. I don't see how you can really do anything else with the backbox you showed in the pics earlier. I think you are stuck with what you have unless you are willing to repaint. You will just knock off more paint in any effort to clean it.

I used it on my cabinet with ME. Not on the playfield.

You having fun with this, sky?

Don't be.

What I'm finding is all of it works. It comes down to preference. I don't think I would use simple green on the playfield, but it seems ok on a cabinet with intact paint. I used the simple green concentrate in a spray bottle to wet an ME sponge and wipe down my cabinet. I did not dilute it and I didn't really scrub hard with the ME. I just wiped it down gently until the paint was clean. The only time i felt like i was scrubbing was to remove a couple black scuff marks. At those times, I really paid close attention to the paint to make sure I wasn't wearing it off. If my paint was flaking I would not have done it at all. I would have left it alone until I was ready to repaint.

To clean playfields, I have used the following process with success. Vacuum, wipe down with a lightly damp rag (water), clean with playfield cleaner like novus2 (many people swear by it) or in my case, specialized playfield cleaner, then clean with ME and alcohol, follow back up with playfield cleaner to remove all the ME residue and then wax to preference.

I'm sure others have methods that they like better. This worked well for me on my 1969 Bally playfield. Not sure how this method would work on a Williams or gottlieb of the same era??? But this is what I will try first.

The key with all of this is, ME can work very well but you have to be very careful. Experience will help.

Wow, you're right! I know I wasn't talking about using it on a playfield, but I see your point! Ill do that. *******DONE*******

I think I read that too. There are so many thoughts on this. I still personally wouldn't use it on a playfield even though it is such a quick exposure. I feel like the risk of water soaking in a bit is too high for me. Funny because I did use a lightly damp rag with water to initially wipe down the playfield. I guess I am contradicting myself a little.

I still won't use simple green or water for Ang real cleaning or scrubbing. Only Alcohol and ME, and playfield cleaner.

Finally !!! I have had some time to get back at it. Populating the playfield tonight! Ill post the pics as I go.

On the move! New pop bodies, bases, skirts and springs. Polished up the old rings and they look good. Cleaned all the mystery gunk out of the switch spoons. Adjusted the spoons and switches for what I hope will be very quick pops. BUT...I have lost some screws! All the screws for the popbumpers brackets! On the hunt now!!

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Here it is after the mushroom bumpers and the right flipper and the ball trough area installed. Found my pop bumper screws! Woohoo!!!

Found a new problem though. The bulbs in the new sockets I put in the new bumper bodies stick up too far and the bumper caps won't go on. Grrrrr.

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Little more done. Have one pop bumper coil cleaned and mounted. Upper arch and apron installed. Found a little Baggie of screws for the apron. They did not get tumbled, so into the tumbler they go along with the tilt bob and rolling tilt mechs. We shall see them again tomorrow!!

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Not sure what to do about the pop bumper caps. Anyone ever encounter this? Was thinking of trying to space them up with a stack of washers between the body and cap. The lamp socket is as far down as it will go and the 555 bulb is seated all the way in. Are there lower profile 555 type bulbs??

Dang it!! Wish I knew this before I bought the 555 sockets and wired them in! At least I haven't cut the leads yet. I'll use them somewhere else. Thanks for the tips ovfdfireman and jkmboler.

Playfield is all beck together except for the pop caps because I am dumb. Next I will reassemble the coin door and trim and clean up the glass trim. Then I will finish repairing this beauty. Hope it's fun to play! I know it will be fast.

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Couple more pics. Good night!

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Oh Yeah! Just with what I have learned on this one machine I feel confident enough to tackle any job now. Thanks Everyone!

Still need to clean the glass frame and the backbox. Ill put up a few pics later tonight of the assembled playfield and then I will move on to repair. Probably end this thread soon.

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Thanks everyone for all the tips and conversation. J had a lot of fun and learned a lot. Whaddya think? Cleanup is finally done. Now on to repair. I'm going to give it my best shot and when I fail, I'll be hitting pinside up for some wisdom.

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Thanks! I just loaded some credits on and started a game. Oh boy! I am in for a ride with this one! Wish me luck.

Thanks! Do you have your sights on any new (or old) games? I've recently found myself looking for a funhouse to fix up. When did you part with yours?

Maybe....